reply to post by edmc^2
Isn't it a cherry picker a....tada....a choser? hmmm
you just defined yourself... (sorry i can't help it)
Already been defined so lets move on shall we...
But you say:
"12Can a fig tree, my brethren, yield olives, or a vine figs? Neither can'salt water yield sweet.
13Who is wise and understanding among you? let him show by his good life his works in meekness of wisdom. 14But if ye have bitter jealousy and faction
in your heart, glory not and lie not against the truth. 15This wisdom is not a wisdom that cometh down from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
16For where jealousy and faction are, there is confusion and every vile deed."
So again... Your God has proven to be Devilish according to your own bible, and this entire thread.
Did you just applied these scriptures to God? Wow, truly mazing - grace. Are you sure about that?
See heres the thing... i know that these words are not from God. Though you seem to think they are... so considering you've said many times your
God is a Jealous God, and Your very own ASV bible says this which you believe are words from God...
Your God is devilish/earthly/sensual... according to your Gods words. So, considering you say all scripture is inspired by God... are you denying
your Gods words? Similar to how others like to claim Jesus is God yet deny his words as well?
Because the following scriptures shows you what is truly from God:
"17But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without variance,
without hypocrisy. 18And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace for them that make peace."
So for the second time in this post, you deny your Gods words from your own book... This is cherry picking by the way.... posting a verse without
considering what came before it or after.... It says clearly Jealousy is not a quality of God... Directly from the book you claim is the most
accurate of all bibles, and infallible.
I hope you're not getting confused further - need to concentrate more.
Pleeease man... You need to open your eyes and try using some logic... Your arguement makes no sense. Either all of the bible is Gods word as you
say or its not.... You can't have both. IF it is, Jealousy is not a quality of God as it states, which contradicts your Gods own words within the
book. If it is not Gods word, then you're off the hook... Its as simple as that...
Use logic and there is no arguement... If you want to be illogical, then you have some explaining to do because this is complete hypocrisy.
"However what you’re talking about is envy – I don’t need to explain what it is because it’s obvious what it is"
Ya but see, that was from the KJV bible... I just posted directly from your bible, and the verse said Jealousy... And since this is your statement
that the bible is infallible... i believe you have a lot of explaining to do.
huh...did you forget what you said.
Here it is again, you said:
So again, according to your bible... Jealousy or envy / strive are not from above... they are earthly sensual and Devilish...
Are you changing your story line again or is this more twisting?
Somehow im not shocked i need to explain this to you... but anyways...
No story has changed, i posted directly from the KJV bible, and to back up what i said, i decided to use the book that you claimed (in this thread) is
the most accurate of all the bibles. Since you made that claim you can not take it back, meaning the correct word used is Jealousy according to your
book the JW's handbook.(ASV)
I love how you try to twist what i say, but it won't work... you can't confuse me... so try to assume that its pointless to try... And again remember
this is your thread not mine... You are the one trying to prove the infallibility of the bible.... I am just the one proving you wrong.
Now let me please clarify it fur ya - quoting from the verses above, it says "bitter jealousy and faction " which is envy - not righteous
Jealousy - as in rightheous ZEAL - righteous indignation.
See the difference?
Zeal and Jealousy are two different terms... And Rightous Jealousy is a contradiction in terms...
You're reaching man...
So in God’s point of view – he requires that those serving him must be loyal to him, have a zeal to be truthful to him – in other words
to be dedicated to him."
Where u said:
More pointless statements... and not a reason for God to be Jealous of anyone or anything. Believe it or not, because the bible says so... does not
make it so.
So what's pointless about what I said?
Its pointless because every "God" requires his followers to serve only them... And even though that might be true that does not give any God a reason
to be Jealous if one choses not to serve them.
A God would be beyond such pathetic emotions such as Jealousy and Hatred... If God is perfect as you and many others claim, why would he be so
pathetic as to give in to silly human emotions...
Thus, in giving in to those lower end negative emotions he renders himself no better then us lowly humans.
What say you?
Here's what he said to the Devil in case you've forgotten already:
Mat 4:10 NIV - Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' "
Ya... but you don't serve the God of Jesus... If you did you would see the error within this whole thread, and specifically this arguement within
As for the rest of your long cut and pasted statements (i.e. alledge crimes by God) - what's the point of answering them if you will just
redicule the Biblical explanations. It's like throwing pearls to you know what...
Typical explaination from someone who can't answer a quesiton.... "why should i answer you'll just mock me" well i tell you, i am not here to mock
anyone, nor am i here to judge you or anyone else. I am here to prove the FACT that the bible is a crooked book, full of garbage that has no
relevance in this day and age. And when your "explaination" makes no sense.... obviously im going to jump on that fact.
You won't answer because you can't without proving the fallibility of this book.
Besides you'll just cherry pick only the ones that will support your claim then twist them - that is turn my God to evil and yours to good.
Just like what the Devil did to Jesus
Incorrect... but what are you afraid of? If you were so sure that these disgusting verses are in fact from God shouldn't you be proud to proclaim
them as such? Doubting your God now are we? Its only a matter of time man... people can only take so many faults before they start to question.
When you start to question your beliefs you are FINALLY stepping on to the correct path...
Your God is not My God... You do not know my God because you are blinded by your church who taught you that the bible is infallible.
And just so you know, i will not make the God of Jesus to be evil... I use scripture from Jesus to support my claim which... once again... is the
reason why i destroy your arguements with ease. And you will not find anything within his words that supports the scripture i've posted about the
murders/ rapes / and tortures that your God has commited to the unsuspecting people written about within the pages of said book.
You try to defend them, and you only make yourself look foolish... And the funny thing is i believe you know this as well, which is why you won't
touch those verses with a 10 foot poll.
So... i'll be waiting for your reply... try to make it thorough please... Im tired of having to repost questions you can't answer.... Honestly if
you don't have an answer thats fine. At least i'd respect that, but making up an answer and cherrypicking verses that have nothing to do with the
original question only shows the truth behind your lack of understanding...
the bible is Very fallible...... Just face the facts man
edit on 18-10-2011 by Akragon because: r