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reply posted on 12-8-2004 @ 03:28 AM by Hellmutt
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Originally posted by HellmuttDo you have any bids on a "Most Heroic Action On The Battlefield" award?

No discussion of the matter could be complete without consideration being given to the Marines at the
Chosin Reservoir during the Korean War. I am proud to say that I have known many Marines who served there and am currently in contact with several on a bulletin board on WebTV. These men are as heroic as any man has ever been.

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This certainly looks like some piece of history I´ll have to study further. Imagine, I never even heard of the Chosin Reservoir before. They don´t teach us these things in school... Now because you mentioned it here, I´ll have a chance to learn some valuable history I might otherwise have missed.

[edit on 2004/11/6 by Hellmutt]



reply posted on 12-8-2004 @ 11:21 AM by PublicGadfly
There are far too many stories of bravery related to battlefields to do real justice to this thread. The foregoing stories and “nominees” are all relevant.

Audie Murphy


He was alone and exposed to German fire from 3 sides


The totality of his awards
I always have believed Audie Murphy was the bravest person on any battlefield.

Murphy seemed to me to be the atypical hero. The hero that is a hero because of his actions not because he set out to do something great or heroic.

Soldier
Above the call. Herbert then wrestled with his own demons, and finally admits defeat as a civilian.

What others said about him:

He was a decorated veteran from Korea. He was one of a few survivors from his company in Korea. He felt he deserved to die in 1952 and considered his life after that a bonus


To me, true heroics are committed by the frightened person that in spite of their fear or maybe because of it presses on. The mother that enters a firey room knowing she may well die in an attempt to save her child, the frightened youth that takes to the water to save someone from impending shark attack, the whistleblower that knows they will lose their job or worse- to me these are the things that make for the hero.


Not to denigrate the Spartans for they are probably the epitome of 'militaryness' I believe that they were professionals involved more in honor than in heroics by happenstance.


reply posted on 12-8-2004 @ 04:19 PM by Hellmutt
Looking back on the first post on this thread. I just had to add this extra little detail for those who didn't go through "The Story in pictures" section on the Glowworm site...

...All this time Glowworm was taking crippling hits from the Hipper's big guns. Lt Cdr Roope then ordered a sharp turn to starboard and headed straight for the Hipper giving the famous order "Stand by to ram"...


Picture: Glowworm making smoke and firing torpedoes as photographed from the Hipper.


[edit on 2006/4/23 by Hellmutt]


reply posted on 13-8-2004 @ 05:34 AM by Clownface
Just found this:

Ten amendments for airborne I'd say it'll work great as rules for any soldier..

More info on Fallschirmjägers
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reply posted on 13-8-2004 @ 07:19 AM by The Vagabond
First and foremost, I'll try to say just one positive thing so this whole post isn't depressing. My vote for the greatest act of heroism named so far definately goes to those german troops who exposed themselves to their adversaries to make contact and offer a truce. Fighting is easy. Standing up for the right thing in the military, particularly when it means going over to see the enemy without your weapon, is amazing. Believe me- I've been there done that as far as taking a stand in the military is concerned (and I wasn't faced with the threat of execution for treason at least!)

Also I guess I should second that feeling of surprise that they don't teach some of this stuff in history class. Jay Gould makes into into texts for trying to corner the gold market- something nobody cares about or needs to know, but the USS Alligator and her Marines (famous pirate fighters after the Spanish abandoned the Carribean- an important event in the development of America's place as a leader in this hemisphere) do not get mentioned.
Almost nobody realizes that after 1066, no nation successfully raided a port on Britain's home soil until April 1778, when John Paul Jones unleashed his detatchment of devil dogs on two british ports.
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That's it for the positive stuff...
The media has really cheapened heroism. Right after 9/11 they started mass-producing heroes for us to vicariously fight and win through, so that we wouldn't actually have to DO anything in the name of patriotism and civic virtue. God forbid that anyone should get in touch with the key volunteers network at a local base... just go get a bumpersticker to show your support.

The war in Iraq has made matters worse. They seemed to think that the older generation will say "hey, the kids can fight a war- I guess all those problems with violence, teen pregnancy, and academic failure were left wing alarmist BS- it worked too! I gotta say, the right has found a great way to rally the base: they proved their success on family values by sending kids off to kill strangers!

Flight 93: not heroes. It wasn't their call- they were stuck and they were f*cked. (and they were probably shot down).

Jessica Lynch: Do I even have to say anything?

Lance Armstrong: Road bikes -ARE- scarry to me, but going to France isn't heroism. The worst thing that could happen is that they might surrender- then you could be in trouble because they don't fight outsiders so well, but they do tend to cut off their ruler's head from time to time. Good for Lance for rubbing their nose in it though!


reply posted on 13-8-2004 @ 07:43 AM by smokenmirrors
Ah, the number of acts of herosim is staggering, many of which we never hear about. This quote comes from the following website and in my opinion is the greatest act of herosim one could ever engage in, that is, giving one's life to save his fellow man....

WETZEL, WALTER C. Private First Class, U.S. Army, 13th Infantry, 8th Infantry Division. Place and date: Birken, Germany, 3 April 1945. Entered service at: Roseville, Mich. Birth: Huntington, W. Va. G.O. No.: 21, 26 February 1946. Citation: Pfc. Wetzel, an acting squad leader with the Antitank Company of the 13th Infantry, was guarding his platoon's command post in a house at Birken, Germany, during the early morning hours of 3 April 1945, when he detected strong enemy forces moving in to attack. He ran into the house, alerted the occupants and immediately began defending the post against heavy automatic weapons fire coming from the hostile troops. Under cover of darkness the Germans forced their way close to the building where they hurled grenades, 2 of which landed in the room where Pfc. Wetzel and the others had taken up firing positions. Shouting a warning to his fellow soldiers, Pfc. Wetzel threw himself on the grenades and, as they exploded, absorbed their entire blast, suffering wounds from which he died. The supreme gallantry of Pfc. Wetzel saved his comrades from death or serious injury and made it possible for them to continue the defense of the command post and break the power of a dangerous local counterthrust by the enemy. His superb leadership and heroic action at the cost of his life so demoralized the enemy that resistance at this point collapsed, permitting the two battalions to continue their advance.

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