World on the verge of an economic collapse says Soros

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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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reply to post by boondock-saint
 


Still not man enough to prove your claims that he engineered the financial crisis? Guess you'll stick to copy/pasting bible quotes...very helpful when trying to discuss ECONOMICS


You might wanna put away the bible and read up on economics, because you obviously have no clue
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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

lol, I guess Fox News made up the story about
Soros' childhood helping the Nazis confiscate
land and property from Jews and sending them
to the death camps. Where was Soros' heart
then when his own people were getting slaughtered??
U can think he's a savior of you want.
I think he is pure evil incarnate.


What a ridiculous statement.

You do realize that as a 12 year old child coerced into the hitler youth, the only choice you have is to join or die. You obviously forget how impressionable you can be at that age, or how scary the big, bad world can be.

Why do you think that the average german soldier was not tried for war crimes at the end of WW2? Because the average citizen or soldier cannot and should not be held responsible for the crimes of their government. When your only choice is to fight or die, most people will chose to fight, if only for self-preservation or for that of their families.

You can be a big man and say you would die for your beliefs all you want. Id like to see you make that decision as a 12 year old child with a gun held to yours and your parents heads.

Ps. He cant explain his claims about Soros setting up the collapse. He can provide you with no facts, as there are none.
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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by MrXYZ
For those who care about facts, read this. You can't seriously claim he's a war criminal after reading this.


the facts on ur wiki link are skewed for a biased
opinion of Soros and I'll prove it.

from your wiki link


Later that year, at age 14, Soros lived with and posed as the godson of an employee of the Hungarian Ministry of Agriculture


that wiki page did NOT state that the Hungarian Ministry of Agriculture
was the immediate subordinate to the Nazi SS High Command.


In point of fact, Soros's adopted "godfather" served under Nazi Waffen SS Gen. Kurt Becher, who ran what was euphemistically called the Economic Department of the SS Command, which oversaw the extermination of 500,000 Hungarian Jews.


www.larouchepub.com...

So Soros was an accomplice and accessory to half a million
Jews being exterminated. Soros disbursed their deportation
papers and helped confiscate their property for the Nazis.

And that DID NOT come from Fox. It came from CBS 60 Minutes
interview in 1998.

Some excerpts from the interview straight from
the horse's @r$e.


"Kroft: And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

"Soros: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that's when my character was made.

"Kroft: In what way?

"Soros: That one should think ahead. One should understand and anticipate events and when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a very personal experience of evil.

"Kroft: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

"Soros: Yes. Yes.

"Kroft: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

"Soros: Yes. That's right. Yes.

"Kroft: I mean that's—that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

"Soros: Not—not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't—you don't see the connection. But it was—it created no—no problem at all.

"Kroft: No feeling of guilt?

"Soros: No.

"Kroft: For example that, 'I'm Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.' None of that?

"Soros: Well, of course I could be on the other side, or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was—well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in markets—that if I weren't there—of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would—


www.larouchepub.com...

what kind of evil man helps exterminate 500K Jews
and steals their property with out any conscience or
remorse at all ???

Is this your savior of the world ???
He sure as hell ain't mine.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint

Originally posted by MrXYZ
And yeah, it's easy to claim you'd proudly step into the gas chamber if you didn't see your friends and family die all around you...see the suffering...

You might wanna step down from that mighty horse you're sitting on


try me !!!
2nd

and the only one here on a horse is Soros,
and behold the pale rider whose name
that sits upon him is death.

started early at 14 did it not for Soros ???


Im curious...........

You claim to be Christian. Would you perhaps be Catholic? If so, you do realize that the Pope was also a member of the Hitler Youth?



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by nightbringr
Im curious...........

You claim to be Christian. Would you perhaps be Catholic? If so, you do realize that the Pope was also a member of the Hitler Youth?


Catholicism is not Christianity.

I am an Evangelical Christian.

And I could care less about the Pope.
He is not my leader.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:41 PM
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speaking of the Nazi pope:
some 70 million self proclaimed followers of christ killed each other during world war two...
I wonder how could anyone call them selves a follower of christ while going the other way?

at least some of the finer posters here on ATS actually practice what they profess to believe
to those fine people
I salute your courage and high minded efforts
edit on 28-6-2011 by Danbones because: and to the butt heds in the temple...I have a superfine razberrys for you...



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:42 PM
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Well i guarantee the Pope and millions of Catholics worldwide would disagree with you and say that yes, Catholicism IS Christianity.

And yes, their leader was no different than Soros.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by boondock-saint
 


Well i guarantee the Pope and millions of Catholics worldwide would disagree with you and say that yes, Catholicism IS Christianity.

And yes, their leader was no different than Soros.


how much would anyone like to wager that the vatican bank is in bed with soros financially..
I know they are famous for investing in porn, arms, and food speculation, and thusly make more in a day of war then they do in a year of peace

well this is close enough:

"Rothschilds... are the guardians of the papal treasure."
-Encyclopedia Judaica, 1901–1906, Vol. 2, p.497...
...In the early 19th century, the Rothschild family of Naples built up close relations with the Vatican Bank, and the association between the family and the Vatican continued into the 20th century.

en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

Well i guarantee the Pope and millions of Catholics worldwide would disagree with you and say that yes, Catholicism IS Christianity.
And yes, their leader was no different than Soros.


come to think of it, the Pope does
look evil in his photos, lol

But I am saved by grace which means
I do not need a priest to absolve me
of my sins. I can pray directly to God
for forgiveness. Jesus' sacrifice at
Calvary made that possible.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 05:51 PM
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Well it seems rather obvious that the dude who created the universe and everything in it
can talk to who the hell ever he wants....
I bet he even listens when he wants to as well

here's to direct communication
and

I'm sure it works both ways




edit on 28-6-2011 by Danbones because: i just had to degarble that heh heh I bet god gets it right the first time
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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by surrealist

Billionaire hedge fund giant George Soros told a panel discussion in Vienna that the world faced a monetary meltdown focused on Greece and that the crisis was developing in front of our eyes.


No Plan B....




This is clear propaganda by trying to conceive to the public that "you need us". It's a form of 'save the children' mantra (a statement or slogan repeated frequently), an emotional trigger for control, aka brainwashing, as when people are open to FEAR, their guards are down and look to others for help.

Austerity is a misnomer, when you're in debt on your credit card do you really think the bank will say, 'I see you're in debt to us, what we'll do is raise your credit limit.', no of course not. Secondly, even with the austerity measures, there isn't enough money to pay for the first loan, so why create more debt, that the GDP of the nation can ever pay it off? It's impossible to pay off! That then becomes a form of fiat slavery to the creditors, i.e the bankers, which in turn devalues the nation making their assets valueless by allowing their global corporations to buy into it on the cheap.

It's economic espionage on a grand scale and it's all planned this way, which actually does make it a real conspiracy.

And as Zbigniew Brzezinski stated at a CRF meeting:
"For the first time in all of human history, mankind is politically awakened, that's a total new reality."



Everything stated publicly, think and do the opposite as there is clearly a plan B, they just think you're stupid enough not to think that there is. Remember that they are also trying to implement open borders which breaks down nations so they cannot have their own currency.

Plan B

Nations need to print their own money with intrinsic value and without USURY.

"NO USURY, NO DEBT."
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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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I'm a complete idiot when it comes to monetary matters. I'm the kind of a guy that has a coffee tin full of pennies in my room or that the hot chicks just smile at and avoid for obvious reasons related to economics, but . . .

George Soros is the kind of guy who didn't get rich making full and frank disclosure of his opinions to the public.

Remember, the Rothchilds got rich in the UK by tricking investors into thinking that Wellington had lost the Battle of Waterloo, knowing full well he hadn't and taking full advantage of the selling panic that ensued.

Is something going to happen? Is Soros trying to make something happen? Bottom line, what does Max Kaiser think? Check out his videos on RT on YouTube. I think he's a straight shooter, but remember there is no substitute for putting your eggs into more than one basket.
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posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:43 PM
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If we don't raise the debt ceiling, we will default on our debt sending skyrocketing upwards



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 06:48 PM
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Who are you trying to kid Boondock? You are so programmed by right wing media, you would have worn that brown shirt with pride, and rounded up the Jews with enthusiasm, because you would have been as easily brainwashed by Hitler as you are right wing media.

Here is the real story of Soros during NAZI occupation.

mediamatters.org...


This is what actually happened. Shortly after George went to live with Baumbach, the man was assigned to take inventory on the vast estate of Mor Kornfeld, an extremely wealthy aristocrat of Jewish origin. The Kornfeld family had the wealth, wisdom, and connections to be able to leave some of its belongings behind in exchange for permission to make their way to Lisbon. Baumbach was ordered to go to the Kornfeld estate and inventory the artworks, furnishings, and other property. Rather than leave his "godson" behind in Budapest for three days, he took the boy with him. As Baumbach itemized the material, George walked around the grounds and spent time with Kornfeld's staff. It was his first visit to such a mansion, and the first time he rode a horse. He collaborated with no one and he paid attention to what he understood to be his primary responsibility: making sure that no one doubted that he was Sandor Kiss.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Bicent76
 


We need the current system to crash in order to go forward. We need to get rid of the corporate banking elites who have trapped us in this maze of a rat race.

Humanity will be much better off once we have thrown off this giant corporate parasite.

With the production capabilities of current technology, we should all be working twenty hour weeks, with short commutes to work, driving small efficient electric vehicles that will last us a lifetime.

Then we could spend a great deal more time with our families, raising our children with a sense of morality and humanity, rather than having them raised by corporate media.

To me, your choice is to stay running in the rat maze looking for that cheese.



You sound like a madman..

I do not chase cheese, I work hard earn a living which provides what I have. Blaming other people bankers and whatever for your problems, or the problems of the World par se, is a cop out, also very, very immature and actually a form of de-evolved thought... You sound like a 1940's natzi, blaming the jews...

Sorry ats..

You can hit me...



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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I think most people can link the fallout world wide. When Clinton,along with Repubs enacted NAFTA/CAFTA, and Franks/Dodd act screwing the housing market, it was inevitable. GW is also to blame for allowing it to keep going and Greenspan.
In the early 90's, I remember having to get my mother to co-sign a loan for about $5k. Then those rules were relaxed and the scam really started. Anyone with a brain could see the impending results. I expected it about 5yrs from now, but close enough. My previous occupation allowed myself to view it directly. Being in Pa., I saw the influx of out of state residence fleeing NY and NJ because of their oppressive tax rates.

What always stuck in my craw, the amount of "new residences", when I could clearly see, they could not afford anything. Our banking system is as at much fault as our government. The banks can use the lax regulations excuse, but they still were not obliglated to do so and could have turned down loans.
Wall Street is also to blame. I want to know were the stimulus money went?!!! Bailing out these banks and investors? It did not stimulate the economy and directly benefit the Citizens that I can personally relate.

Our government should be stopped, tried for treason, and held accountable for their actions. I maybe extreme,but, has anyone accounted for the stimulus money confiscated from us?



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
Here is the real story of Soros during NAZI occupation.
mediamatters.org...




ur joking right ???

u r gonna trust a media source that Soros
funds to tell the absolute truth on Soros ???




Soros, the billionaire hedge fund operator who finances various leftist and Marxist groups, including Media Matters, has made his fortune by betting on the collapse of national economies and currencies. He was convicted of insider trading in France.

Media Matters recently received $1 million from Soros so that it could try to mute the effectiveness of conservative media organizations and personalities, some of them critical of Soros.


canadafreepress.com...

just a weeeeeeeee lillllll bit of conflict of interest
there don't ya think ????




posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 07:24 PM
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Never heard money called cheddar?

It is a popular term used by the con artists who have all the rats chasing around for their profit.

You might think you are the hardest working guy on the planet, but you're not. You are just another programmed tool.

I am not blaming my problems on anyone, I am pointing out that a whole lot of suckers are being scammed, and they are too stupid to realize it.

Meanwhile, I am working on my plan to escape this rat race.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 07:30 PM
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Do you have anything better than a 3rd class right wing yellow sheet to back up your claims?


That is one pathetic website.

I guess after you get in so deep, down looks like up.



posted on Jun, 28 2011 @ 07:31 PM
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Good find !

I have given you a star but my flag button is currently u/s....

The last time I heard a high level 'player' make a statement like this was Alan Greenspan in feb, 2007, while he was the head of the US Central bank, the Federal Reserve> "... there is going to be a recession, starting middle to late this year..." (Paraphrased from memory)

Quite how these people manage to prophesy the worlds markets months in advance is a mystery, until one discovers that they are patently the manipulators of the entire marketplace... (IMHO)

As regards Greece specifically, I watched a report by Max Keiser on RT (Russia Today) a week or so ago, where he disclosed the fact that the Greek Prime Minister had sold Bonds? or Treasury notes? , cheaply to his 'friends' at a bargain price of around 2.3 Billion, whilst in the foreknowledge that Greece would default her 1st repayment, Those 'bonds' (or what ever they call this particular financial chimera) are now worth approx 29.6 Billion.

Kaiser called for him to be charged with insider trading, but hey, he's still at work.... like the bankers who got big bonuses after the 2008 debacle, he must have been doing 'what he was told'...

P.s. All the above is prefaced by " From my perspective" and "In My Humble Opinion"

;-)

Peace and Light.





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