World on the verge of an economic collapse says Soros, page 6


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reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 03:23 PM by poet1b
reply to post by civilchallenger



The problems the U.S. is facing is far worse than Europe. We are even more socialist, except in the U.S. most of the welfare goes to the corporations and the super rich.

Greece is too socialist, from what I have read, but Germany, and the Northern European nations seem to have a good balance going. They will survive the Greece problem, and weather the looming energy crisis much better than the U.S..

Too much of the U.S. is sold on the free market/communist ideology, especially the boomers who have their retirement plans in the stock market. They have sold out future generations big time. I think they are going to pay in their old age.


reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 03:29 PM by poet1b
reply to post by Illusionsaregrander



The U.S. government has worked as an impartial rule maker many times in the past, as recently as the mid nineties. It is the ability of the elites to convince the public that government can not evenly enforce a fair set of rules, that allows them to eliminate the rules and commit mass scale fraud.

That the system has worked so many times in the past is proof that it can work.

Don't let them fool you into believing that it isn't still possible for the people to take back control of the government. That is the game plan of the corporate bankers, don't fall for the smoke and mirrors.



reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 03:33 PM by poet1b
reply to post by wholefoods



That and revise the cottage industry, legalize growing hemp for bio-diesel, paper, and clothe, without needing large amounts of fertilizer, or destroying ancient forests.

Get rid of urban sprawls, and bring back the economies of our large towns.

Watch the corporate banking system collapse.


reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 03:34 PM by indigothefish
reply to post by mick1423



thank you for sharing the second video, i have often wondered why the obsession of the kenedy murder.. now i know.

i am now aware of bill 11110 and i am going to spread this. you can be sure of that.


reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 03:37 PM by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by jimnuggits



We already know he has deliberately crashed several currencies. He does it because he can, and because he is working toward a One World Totalitarian dictatorship in which he and his sons arevery powerful and have control. This is not an ordinary wealthy man, it's diabolical beyond imagination. It is too bad the secular humanists have brainwashed so many people, because materialism is a dead end, and the answers are not in materialism. The Book of Enoch explains the fall of angels from the spiritual heaven world, and these are the diabolical ones who hate humanity and want to use people as slaves for their personal pleasures. Think of it, when Lucifer fell, it was because he refused to serve mankind. Then if you look at Zecharia Sitchins teaching on the annunaki and how they used man as slaves... it begins to make more sense.


reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 03:41 PM by mick1423
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I think we are all ball chained to the world economy and when the floor under our feet will fall it will be very hard to not drown...TPTB knows very well how to force the world to go into chaos and out of chaos they will launch the NWO
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reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 03:42 PM by MrXYZ
reply to post by surrealist



Say what you want about Soros, but he's NOT dumb! You don't make billions being stupid.

Fact is, the stuff that caused the crisis, rampant deregulation of the financial sector and the separation of Wall Street from Main Street, hasn't been fixed. Instead of introducing new regulations that would prevent such a crisis in the future, everything's back to normal now. I work in real estate investment, and the amount of stupid stuff I get to see every day is bind boggling.

If you want to fix this, check who voted AGAINST new regulations that would have prevented such issues in the future...funny enough almost 100% of republicans voted against it. Just like they voted against fixing a tax loophole that allows giant corporations to lay off thousands of people, while making BILLIONS of profit (Exxon anyone?), and then paying ZERO taxes while the rest of us has to pay their fair share. In reality, it's even worse, those companies get SUBSIDIES. Subsidies that are supported by the very same people who shout around "free market" as if that's what they really want.

Politics have been taken over by big business, and politicians now only care about pleasing the very people (lobbyists) that pay their bills...instead of working FOR the people.

I'm always baffled at the people voting for the GOP or tea party just because they buy into the "free market" and "less government" lie. If you actually bother looking up how those politicians vote, you realize they only vote in favor of big corporate donors.

Having said that, many democrats are now in the same boat and are just as corrupt.

Until the system gets fixed, nothing will change and we'll head further down a dark hole. Soros, amongst others, realizes this. Clever man...

What baffles me, is to read stupid posts like this:



Soros wants this collapse.
He helped engineer it's design.


That single posts shows an incredible lack of economic knowledge. The collapse is the result of one thing, and one thing only...the deregulation of the financial sector to the point where they can screw us all over. Last I checked, it's the politicians (who get paid by corporate lobbyists) who voted in favor of deregulation.

Now you could say Soros donates money to politicians too. And you're right. But if you bother to dig deeper (the above poster clearly didn't), you realize that it's not the politicians Soros supported that voted in favor of the deregulation.

But who cares about facts if they might just as well get spoon fed opinion, right? People's stupidity has no bounds.
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reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 03:45 PM by EthanT
reply to post by mick1423



That George Carlin video was awesome!! Thanks for sharing. Gave me a much needed laugh


reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 03:47 PM by boondock-saint
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to
post by surrealist


Say what you want about Soros, but he's NOT dumb! You don't make billions being stupid.


you're right, he's not stupid.
He's criminally insane with
an emphasis on criminal.


reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 03:52 PM by MrXYZ
Originally posted by boondock-saint
Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to
post by surrealist


Say what you want about Soros, but he's NOT dumb! You don't make billions being stupid.


you're right, he's not stupid.
He's criminally insane with
an emphasis on criminal.


Like I said, deregulation caused the crisis. The politicians who supported that deregulation of the financial sector aren't the ones Soros supports....so your assessment shows only one thing...you're incredible lack of real economic and political knowledge. You repeat a spoon fed opinion that FOX and Co. indoctrinated you with. I've been working in real estate investment for years (remember, the thing that started the crisis?), so I know what I'm talking about. If you bother looking up who supports further deregulation, you realize it's the very same people Soros opposes.

But you made it clear in previous posts that you don't really care about facts


reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 04:00 PM by mick1423
reply to post by indigothefish



i'm glade if it could help my friend, if you want to read something very interesting, take a look at the All Roads Lead to Rome thread, a man with an extraordinary wisdom named ProtoplasmicTraveler, accumulated alot of documentation about how our world is control by TPTB. According to him ROME, the Empire, is secretly in the shadow, the architect behind the curtain who had manipulate world events since Julius Caesar.

You can use the link in my signature


reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 04:36 PM by nightbringr
Originally posted by civilchallenger
I disagree with Soros though am sure he thinks he knows what he's talking about. Yes, the Euro is a serious issue, but if anything helps keep the Euro zone in check against printing too much money. The obvious in-your-face issue in Europe is the huge debt loads that happen as a natural consequence of socialist policies. The cycle of unaccountability created with socialism first leaves the population with a sense of entitlement, then the politicians do everything in their power, including borrowing money to pay the bills, to give the population what they demand. So the population blames the debt on the politicians, and the politicians blame the debt on the demanding population. Euopeans feel they have a right to other people's property at their preferences using the government as a means to get a hold of it. Libertarians understand this is merely condoned theft.

People like Soros don't understand what is happening is Europe is simply an ordinary predictable consequence of decades worth of robin hood socialism. It is also monopolistic control of the money supply that leads these events to become possible on such a huge scale.


YES!

Someone who gets it. Rampant socialism and an entitlement mindset are what got us into these messes.

Heaven forbid anyone should work hard anymore for their money! We all want it handed out to us as we play chess in a park instead of working, while our government runs massive deficits to pay for our welfare state.


reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 04:38 PM by MrXYZ
reply to post by boondock-saint



I'm sure if you were in his situation, you'd proudly keep your name and step into the gas chamber...right? Right?

For those who care about facts, read this. You can't seriously claim he's a war criminal after reading this.

The reason you hate him is because FOX tells you to. Why? Because he sponsors politicians they don't favor. Just like the Koch brothers sponsor politicians on the right

You're a puppet repeating their slogans like a parrot...kinda sad...

Also, once again you made an outrageous statement (he engineered the financial crisis)....yet you completely fail at presenting any proof that would support your claim. As always, you're talking out of your ass
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reply posted on 28-6-2011 @ 05:02 PM by MrXYZ
reply to post by boondock-saint



And of course you're conveniently dodging the question regarding what proof you have of Soros "engineering the financial crisis". You're too predictable

And yeah, it's easy to claim you'd proudly step into the gas chamber if you didn't see your friends and family die all around you...see the suffering...

You might wanna step down from that mighty horse you're sitting on
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