reply to post by Boreas
Yeah because I said 'all men are rapists' right?
You are certainly implying it.
I'm talking about the consequences of giving men rights over a woman's decisions
No, you are trying to muddy the issue by shouting RAPE.
but I'll relinquish the hypothetical and focus purely on consensual relations.
Excellent... we are now on the same page.
How about this, if you decide to have sex with a woman you're taking the risk that A.) She might get pregnant and B.) That she might get
pregnant and decide to abort the baby. Maybe you, I don't know, shouldn't be screwing someone who's not on the same page as you?
Then why would a woman EVER have an abortion, if she's screwing someone that she doesn't want to have a child with?
Or, not using protection.... whatever.
The fact is, you are putting all choice in the matter onto the woman, and all responsibility for "HER" choice onto the man.
And that is not equality, that is slavery.
IT's HIS wallet, it's HIS labor, it's HIS money.... why should he have to pay HER money, because SHE made the decision to have a child?
Fact is, if you're choosing to copulate with a separate being, you're dealing with a human who's actions (like it or not) are outside of
your control.
Exactly.... that's all I'm saying... if the woman is choosing to copulate with a man, she is choosing to copulate with someone who's actions are
outside her control.
She has no control over whether or not his money goes to her for 18 years.
Right?
The law isn't going to do squat for me if my girl decides to find a way to terminate the pregnancy outside of what's legal
Yeah... but if she has a child that YOU don't want, then you are financially responsible for HER choice... is that fair?
IF the child belongs to the woman (which is what you are arguing) then SHE is financially responsible for it.
That is what I am saying.
or even takes her own life because she's not emotional stable enough to handle it.
WTF?
where did that come from?
That's not to say I'm opposed to entertaining the idea of requiring a HUSBAND'S consent for his wife to abort a child, provided that a legal
agreement is made prior to marriage
You are missing the point of the double standard.
She can choose to keep or kill the child, he has no legal say in it.
But he must abide by her choice, whether that means losing a child he wanted, or paying for a child that he didn't want.
You seem to not understand the complimentary nature of Choice, and Responsibility FOR that choice.
IF it's a woman's choice, then it's HER responsibility.
IF it's a woman AND a man's choice, then it is BOTH their responsibility.
Do you see how Equality works?