posted on Jun, 13 2011 @ 10:28 AM
I suppose you could say I was "raised christian", although I rejected it from a very early age. I cant ever remember 'adhering' to the dogma they
taught. As a young child I just went to church every sunday and suffered through the lecture, because I didnt know any better and even if I did, I had
no say in the matter. From there I went directly to rejecting religion in general because it just didnt make any sense. I still went to church though
because I was still quite young. If I put up any fuss about it I would get 'grounded' (which I frequently was). It wasn't until about age 14 that I
was finally able to stop going to church altogether, and I had a lot of pent up rage and hatred towards religion. I felt the very same way you seem to
come across in your post, the entire world would be better off without religion, and that it is a detriment to society. I have since changed that
I still reject religion up front, yet wouldnt consider myself an athiest, most likely because I dont want to label myself, or 'belong' to any one
While I can agree with many of the points that have been brought up, for instance religious wars, adherence to blind faith, seemingly not questioning
obvious logic, etc... There is also a flip side to that coin. There are a few points I would like to address.
First of all, Darwin himself didnt even fully believe his theory. Second, you mentioned there is nothing that can disprove evolution. That claim is
just as ridiculous as religious fanatics that claim there is nothing that can disprove god. You seem to have put your blind faith into evolution. 60
years ago children were raised by the church if you will. Today children are raised by the schools, to draw a correlation. Micro-evolution has been
proven time and time again, but to my knowledge there is not a single shred of evidence that supports macro-evolution. You yourself are not looking at
the evidence that is out there with a clear and logical mindset, but enough about darwinian evolution
I have seen, first hand, religion completely change someones life. I dont wish to go into details, but religion has been a very good thing for this
person. If believing in a fairy tale is what it takes to allow this person to function in normal society then I dont wish to take that away from them.
Religion does have some good aspects to it, rules to live ones life by, attempting to 'imitate christ', etc.
I dont believe religion should ever be abolished or lost, they (collectively) are a wealth of historical information (no matter how embellished the
stories are, nor to the extent we misinterpret the context today.) I dont think anybody should just accept religion at face value, but that doesnt
mean there is no value to religion at all.
The way I understand it, religion was created as a form of (fear based) law. A way to control the masses, and institute some sort of wide reaching
coherence throughout your kingdom. But this is no different than today. Religion begets good behavior through fear of eternal hellfire. Government
begets good behavior through fear of incarceration.
For fun, I would suggest you go back and take a second look at religion when you feel ready. Come at it from an unbiased viewpoint. Throw everything
you think you know out the window, and try to think outside the box while you do this. I find it entertaining to do this. For instance, take the bible
and read it from several different viewpoints. Read it as an epic sci-fi novel. Read it as a historical account written by a people that didnt
understand anything. See how they describe these fantastic events, wonder how they might interpret such things. How would they describe a cell phone,
or a car, or even a musket (the simplest of all firearms) for example? Without knowledge of how these things worked, they would describe it in terms
they could understand.
Having gone back and reread everything I typed, I do seem to be coming across aggressively which I hoped to avoid. I would just like to make it clear
that I dont mean to attack you, in fact I agree with a lot of what you had said. Religion has been holding us back from realizing our full potential,
and heinous acts have been committed in the name of religion (from the crusades, to alter-boys), although Im not fully convinced that none of these
would have happened without religion though. They still may have been committed in the name of something else. I still have a few more thoughts
swimming around in my head, but they are too jumbled and in the effort of keeping this reply short I will say that you have restarted a great
discussion that has drawn mostly mature and conversational responses. + *