It's Official, "Anonymous" Hackers are Now Controlled Opposition

reply to post by AreaJerm


Face it, you can't define something that is intentionally ambiguous. No matter how hard you try.

Your dismissal as it being "unlikely" I'm sure is rather encouraging for those who are using Anonymous for cover.

When real damage is done, and anonymous is blamed, all of this speculation will seem rather silly.

Stay tuned, anonymous fans.

reply to post by Fractured.Facade



Like I said, you already assume that is CIA-controlled, therefore I cannot have a discussion with you because you already think I'm wrong,

Originally posted by AreaJerm
reply to post by Fractured.Facade

 

Like I said, you already assume that is CIA-controlled, therefore I cannot have a discussion with you because you already think I'm wrong,

Please, show me where I said, or assumed that anonymous is "CIA-controlled"?

Anyone who assumes that anyone, or any agency is in exclusive control of anonymous is going to be wrong.

Anonymous can be whatever anyone wants it to be.... That is a fact that is going to be painfully clear eventually.

This could also be a group of governmental drones doing all the hacking and simply blaming Anonymous, trying to make them look bad so that popular opinion runs against the hackers. Popular opinion will start turning against Anonymous, and then all of a sudden they'll be a mass prosecution of members by the FBI, Interpol, etc. Guarantee it.

The Majority of anonymous appears to be a bunch of Script Kiddies.
It would be easy for the government to blame it on them. But its a far stretch..

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by neo96
so someone tell me how and why the cia aka anonymous hacked sony?

They did so by hacking

I have no opinion on what you two are attempting to debate, but your response makes no sense. Neo asked "HOW AND WHY" something was done, and your response is 'they did so by hacking'. Nonsensical.

Originally posted by mayabong
reply to post by MIDNIGHTSUN

 

Interesting theory.

The main Bitcoin guy is going to be giving a presentation to the CIA very soon

Here is where he writes about it.

I like the Bitcoin idea though.

forum.bitcoin.org...

edit on 6-6-2011 by mayabong because: (no reason given)

I'm our of the look for what Bitcoin is about. Probably they want first hand info from the guy so they can put him out of business.

I had a thread here some months ago that went no where. My thesis was that there was absolutely no reason why US coins if not currency needed to be changed except for a good reason. Granted counterfiting is a big problem and that can explain the big bills being repeatedly changed. But coins? Who cares?

I'm thinking that they are cleverly changing out coins--not the shape or the dominations--so that we will get accustomed to different designs that have hardly changed since we all had our first pocket change. More than likely the Amero coins will be based on dicimals as our American, Canadian and Mexican coins are but the designs, mottos, faces and other terms on the coins will drastically change. Getting us use to the change (of change) is a step in that direction. (You know they are still building that trans-continental highway through Texas but they claim they ain't.)

There is only a couple of people on the thread who seem to know what they're talking about.

lulzsec, lulzboat etc.. are not affiliated with annonymous what so ever.

The actual members of annonymous have nothing to do with the CIA (lmfao) no more than wikileaks is connected with MOSAD. Just rediculous.

Now.. what would make sense.. is that the CIA or MOSAD can temporalily create an issue whereby the hacking community take note, they could leave info in obvious places just waiting to be taken... thus making it appear "a little too obvious a link". This has been done time and time again and is essentially just a "sting" or "entrapment" case... for example.. if you keep your cookies on the top of the cupboard and in a sealed tin.. chances are your kids aint gonna get any cookies right?...... now leave the cookies on a nice tray on the floor with maybe a little foil over the top.... your cookies will more than likely go missing.

It is discussed in some techie circles that network security on several gov and military servers was lowered to enable attacks. Considering that many of these government documents are being stored on NIX variant based almost air tight operating system running servers.. its very hard to believe that the "youth of today" is capable without inside assistance. Hacking windows and linux is one thing... ripping into air tight custom kernel encrypted NIX systems is a tad more challenging... even for a team of NIX professionals. You would have more luck scanning and decrypting outgoing traffic imho.

But I digress from the point of the thread...

I am quite happy for these "kids" as some would call them to better learn the hacking trade by actually hacking systems.... lest we forget that the biggest hackers and fraudsters in history usually ended up being employed by either governments and/or big corporations to take controll of there network security and/or anti fraud departments.

catch me if you can anyone?

P.s: Lulzsec attempted an attack on the nintendo servers just a few days ago.. all they got was one config file to post on the internet.... nintendo had already tracked them minits into the attack and stopped them in there tracks. Lulzsec admitted to not wanting to hurt nintendo... it was more just for practice lol. However.. how the F*** does nintendo catch an attack in minits while sony and other gov web servers just let them right on in? Maybe 30 million subscriber details will point towards an answer? hehehe

As far as I have read and heard anonymous is a collective of sorts. No one represents them, no one can command them. Its a bunch of people that wonder around willy nilly doing there own things and when 2 peeps cross paths they join forces and transform into Optimus Prime!

Or so ...

That being said I don't know what to make of this group err ... collective. One day they claim to fight for the betterment of humanity, then they do this ... which really is supporting the U.S. agenda. Or is it?!

One thing is for certain, I do not trust this collective. Not one bit.

reply to post by w3nd1g0


Listen to him.. he's the only one making sense....

BTW kids grow up....

Originally posted by w3nd1g0
There is only a couple of people on the thread who seem to know what they're talking about.

lulzsec, lulzboat etc.. are not affiliated with annonymous what so ever.

The actual members of annonymous have nothing to do with the CIA (lmfao) no more than wikileaks is connected with MOSAD. Just rediculous.

Is Wired Wrong or misinformed? Or am I reading this wrong??

LulzSec Claims Another Sony Hack By David Kravets Email Author June 6, 2011 | 6:09 pm | Categories: Breaches, Hacks and Cracks LulzSec, which hacked into Sony last week and posted stolen e-mail addresses and passwords of about 50,000 consumers, said it hacked the Japanese media giant again on Monday. This time, the group announced it had swiped 54 megabytes of “Sony Developer source code.” A member of the anonymous group, meanwhile, was allegedly taken into custody by the FBI, according to a report that could not be independently verified. LulzSec is the same group that claimed it cracked PBS last month to protest Frontline’s hour-long documentary on WikiLeaks. In that hack, the group stole and posted thousands of stolen passwords. The group has also claimed responsibility for hacking Sony’s Japanese website and Fox.com, where the group stole and posted 363 employee passwords and the names, phone numbers and e-mail addresses of 73,000 people who had signed up for audition information for the upcoming Fox talent show The X-Factor. The latest Sony hack is a seemingly endless series of intrusions at the company. They began with massive breaches in April that compromised account information on 77 million users of Sony’s PlayStation Network, and another 25 million at Sony Online Entertainment, the company’s game development arm. Nobody has claimed credit for those large attacks, but the hacking group Anonymous had recently declared Sony a target in protest of the company’s lawsuit against PlayStation 3 tinkerer George Hotz. Sony claimed an Anonymous calling card was found on one of the servers compromised at SOE.

Wired.com



Also PBS announced that it was Annon..


EDIT sorry Formating....

The more you doubt,the more you help us
The less you believe , more we confuse and deceive

You dont believe in our collective mind, good, it distract attention.
But never understimate the "weaks"

Ill give you a simple hint

We Are LEGION

see you soon near you ATSers

reply to post by MIDNIGHTSUN


Why is it that every ATS thread that starts with "it's Official" never actually offers anything definitive or official?

Discuss.

reply to post by Tygart


There are more than just one hacker group who are currently targeting sony... just like just about every virus coder starts targeting the biggies like norton and trendmicro... again this is mainly for practice in bypassing security systems.

There is no reported connection between lulzsec and annon thats set in stone... its all just assumptions due to timing etc..

Once one group has taken down a prime target.. then others may also want to "take a shot" to prove they also have the guts and know how to do so. Not clever tho.. as once the main attack has been raised to attention levels all incoming and outgoing traffic is subsequently monitored and these poor hacker "kids" wind up getting their bottoms smacked by the man. lolz

Unfortunately, as usual, you cant always believe what is written on the interweb and much of what you read of tech sites is merely rumours from various discussion boards and the odd bit from the cops or feds.

IMHO I think they are deliberately making it appear that ALL of these so called hackers are connected to the annon group as it makes them easier to report on in the media without having to expain the individual groups themselves and their so called agendas and merely classify them all as "annon hackers".

reply to post by TheWalkingFox


Well... my OFFICIAL response on that note is the same as yours good buddy lmao!

and I would like to also add that it Officialy does my head in when the words "proof" and "official" are thrown around willy nilly.

Originally posted by AreaJerm
reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter

 

Like I said, Anonymous isn't controlled by any one thing. Anonymous is NOT the CIA or the FBI or the Iluminati, nor is it a group of freedom fighters or hackers or even trolls. It's just a loose term that came about on Japanese image boards that became popular for porn and gore. Unless the CIA created 4chan, then no, I don't think Anonymous is controlled by the CIA.

And they've targeted Fox News because it is a biased news station with lulz-worthy figures such as Bill O Reilly and Glenn Beck, whereas CNN only has Anderson Cooper.

Excuse me but all mainstream news outlets are the same, they think the same, operative different, CNN doesn't have just Anderson Cooper.

CNN Lies,spins the news, even fakes the news, why hasn't Anonymous attacked CNN yet then? and also there is no reason to target iran, its not a threat how many times do i have to repeat that? Iran has not attacked any nations, nor doesn't have the nuclear bombs.

Seems to me Anonymous has a hidden agenda, even though i dont have anything agaisnt the group.

Guys... Do we really beleive Anon had anything to do with the sony thing??
I mean does it not make more sense that sont just paid someone to hack them, claimed all this madness was caused by annon, who cant really admit or deny it as they are Annon???

Then they can charge people for security and reap the benefits of having a paid for system (a #ton of cash)

They cant jsut make people move onto a paid service without justification, they have always advertised as having a free service, now they have justification for a paid service! i truley beleive its how i would convince the masses to pay up for services!

As far as the who iran thing goes, Annon as a poster has mentioned are script kiddies, people fighting authority because they havnt found themselves yet in the real world, the newest form of rebelion for an internet generation,

a few hackers can claim to be Annon, work for the CIA hack into any government system and no-one can prove it wasnt Annon, totally deninability from the CIA's end! and Annon have created a void to allow this with there very nature.

Anyone can claim to be anon.

Most people on here clearly has no clue how 4chan works.


So, in all theory, the CIA could be anon, or your neighbor, grandma, or osama bin laden (as long as you're a 4chan user). It isn't organized at ALL. Now it just seems its the new thing to put the blame on "Anon" for every hacking scheme that goes down.

I doubt the true anon hacked Iran, as it wouldn't make any sense with their collective mindset.

reply to post by mnmcandiez


What about 711chan? 6chan? 420chan?

There are more than just 4 chans....

Anonymous is not bound to one website where random pictures of cats and pornography gets posted at the speed of light.

It is the FBI that hacked into the Iraninan servers, they may have got Anon to help and gone under the guise of Anon. The hacker group lolzec hacked the FBI a few days ago and put a lot of their stuff online. Thhey were undertaking an operative to hack into Iran.