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Originally posted by Axial Leader
I wonder -- how much free will we actually have?
Your entire post is predicated on the fact that we have a lot of free will, and I don't think that is true.
@1 We can't free ourselves from our personal pain.
@2 We can't change the laws of nature.
@3 We can't select the family we are born to, or the time we live in.
@4 We can't change the nature of our physical body or its limits.
@5 We can't escape life's labor.
@6 We can't escape death.
@7 We can't change the past.
@8 We can't see the future.
What you basically are calling "free will" is a more like a choice of whether to pay our taxes or go to jail, in other words we sometimes have the ability to make obvious judgments about possible consequences. Sometimes we make risky choices, based upon faulty information or thought processes.
I don't think we have very much free will, actually, so there isn't much free will to figuratively "give back to God", is there?
In fact, it sounds like we should be asking God for a bit more free will than we currently have.
At page 35 of this discussion thread, this point may / should have already been made.
Originally posted by Unity_99
That avatar is depicting child sacrifice. And an investigation needs to be done!
And everyone has just glossed on over it. Its not something you ignore, its something an IP needs pulling and an investigation done on. And this is very common, its over. We're ending that obscenity on this planet now and every single child is going to be SAFE!edit on 2-6-2011 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by curious7
reply to post by Fatgoblin
I'm really hoping Unity_99 was joking cause I fail to see how your avatar is promoting child sacrifice.
then we continue in a world of greed and see where it takes us ,
Originally posted by Darkmask
reply to post by Brianegan
Did it really require that much text to convey your message? Duh! Yes, it is our free will that has put our world in the state it's in. Anyone with an ounce of logic can figure that one out.
The situation we all face has nothing to do with "God" and everything to do with human greed. The existence of God can neither be proven or dis proven and anyone one claiming to have it all figured out is delusional. God is beyond human comprehension.
Lets get real deep for a sec. If God exists, it is more likely that it would have created us primarily to have something to appreciate the wonder and beauty in all that it created, rather than make us solely to feed his massive ego through worship and self sacrifice.
I ask you....What do you think I should do with my free will? I choose to be a good person that treats people with respect. I take care of my family and feel joy in making others happy. I see beauty in the simplest things and appreciate it. Living,.. existing.. is so amazing! I am so thankful for everything I've ever experienced in life. The good times,... the bad times and everything in between.
I ask the OP. What is motivating you to try and string people along?
i agree with you , really i do but we are trying to explain those other things u claim to focus on can be influenced by our beliefs, our collective steers us , if we would join hands we are able to alter alot,
Originally posted by mysterioustranger
reply to post by yets777
You replied..."you create your reality as you believe it to be ". My point. YOU believe it. Fine.Yet anytime anyone starts to tell us that this is THE most whatever...its your opinion. People dont always appreciate being told that someone suspiciously has THE most important whatever, and we tend to shy away from prophets, intellectuals, politicians, seers that say they have the MOST important anything...and that makes us supicious, maybe not right...but it does.
Id be more susceptable to listen or read a thread if you said you have found somethig important...that you think it may be beneficial to everyone...or that your think everyone may find it helpful to entertain a revolutionary ideoogy...or idea.
There are many more important things the world feels are WAY more-important, to be warned about...but to read that anyone's got the MOST IMPORTANT whatever it is...they alone have the secret....well...its hard not to shake our heads. And thats free will. And God gave me mine to lean the other way when someone states or implies theyve got the answers, and their issue is THE MOST IMPORTANT one Ill ever hear about, and then you tell me Ive been warned.
Stand up in the Senate or the Church or Assembly or a grocery store and start out with that line. They will drag you away....Fair? No. Right? No. But there are other ways to spread ideas other than starting out the way you did. And actually...many would like to hear what you have to say....yet Im sure...some turned away..using their free will...against listening to another poster saying they have ..."the MOST IMPORTANT THING..."
Love, family, country, religion, freedom...those are the most important things to most people. Not someone on a conspiarcy website telling us they have "the message"...
Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by bigdaddy7ftr
I just wanted to say that as far as I can tell, your beliefs are actually at the very core of the same beliefs I hold and the same teachings I follow. So yes, I think you are definitely onto something with your message. Of course, others will disagree, and that is their "free will" to do so...As long as your beliefs satisfy you that is all that ultimately matters.
I understand choosing love..I understand forgiveness..I do not understand giving your free will back to god,as the op stated? How does that fit in to your religious beliefs?
Originally posted by laffoe
reply to post by mysterioustranger
All the other threads of Brianegan are like that: LINK
Sharing in a loving way for those genuine interested
Go see for yourself.
This was created to reach all, because it affects all
When something are really that important and that urgent,
would you not tell?