Found this thread fascinating, if a bit too wordy at times, let's try summarise better?

It's interesting you talk about free will, and the will that allows us to chose our own actions in life. I believe there are far too many outside influences to truly have free will, you will always have some guidance in your actions, negative or positive.

It all depends how much energy (what you keep calling god I guess) is around you, and how its charged, and those you associate with, and how they view life and interact with others. This will charge the energy we all feel at times to positive or negative and to various strengths.

Originally posted by curious7
I have to agree with Fly here, discussions go on tangents all the time in real life as on forums and while most were quick to argue or attack, some of us tried to make sense of the world around us and the point of the OP.

Nothing personal against you Brian whatsoever, I'm sure somewhere in there you do believe you're helping people but I don't see how picking fights with other good people like Fly can benefit yourself or the threads.

Isn't it better to have similar yet differing views and opinions so that those reading information for the first time can choose which they feel in agreement with? Now this isn't a sleight on you or anybody else who may do a similar thing but this thread and others authored by yourself do seem to be confusing and vague. Whether you do that on purpose to allow people to work for themselves to figure things out, I just don't know and can only speculate but Fly is also a respected member here to quite a few people and what he says could potentially aid what you also say.

To go back and forth with sarcasm and aggression is unnecessary in my view.

You wasn't here for some time and so my question was answered by Fly while you had issues to tend to that are more important than ATS and its forum. His answer resonated with me and then when you returned and gave your reply, it was also of a similar nature to Fly's yet was more praise than explaining why I might be on the right track and what to possibly do next if anything.

I honestly think the two of you could work together on whatever message is to be spread if both of you so desire it. Fly extended the olive branch initially and you seem to have refused and seemingly attacked which is a shame for all.

Both of you are my friends and brothers in this life and the next and I hate to see a family feud.

Because the good people have decided that they are good enough and have stopped their journey claiming victory when they are no where near the finish line..........Much work to do still........Mirror

Originally posted by yakuzakid
Found this thread fascinating, if a bit too wordy at times, let's try summarise better?

It's interesting you talk about free will, and the will that allows us to chose our own actions in life. I believe there are far too many outside influences to truly have free will, you will always have some guidance in your actions, negative or positive.

It all depends how much energy (what you keep calling god I guess) is around you, and how its charged, and those you associate with, and how they view life and interact with others. This will charge the energy we all feel at times to positive or negative and to various strengths.

well done.....agreed.

One thing though.....Those outside forces that take away free will can only accomplish that if the one's free will is offered.......Everyone has a choice to choose their path but the destination is always the same......Just like math everything can be simplified all the way done and in this case it alwasy comes down to choice.......Destination God's home.

Originally posted by fenceSitter
You can't prove God exists any more than I can prove he/she/whatever doesn't. It all comes down to beliefs - you have yours and everyone else is entitled to their own. What will aggravate most readers is your attempt to 'force' your beliefs on others. Please (oh please) correct me if I am wrong but doesn't God want us to make the choice to believe in him? If that is the case - why are you trying to force others to believe. It seems hypocritical to me.

Maybe if he belives this is true he wants to save his brethren? It's an interesting read to say the most and to those who aren't close minded or religious it does ask a few questions. Personally, I don't believe in god but I do believe there is a creator.

I'd also like to jot down that if he is trying to save us hes in the right step towards Big C (The Creator) because I believe that to actually get outta this #ty rock once you die, open your heart to unconditional love (.. Minus the hoes with the clap, stay clear from that one!) be a nice person, help people.

This world is a crap place to be, you've got high taxes, inflations, poverty, wars, rape, murders, theft, liars, you name it were housed on a planet full of em. The governments the worst for it they speak about the people but never actually give a dam about the people then they try make things up to the people before the next election even though they failed because they want the power and the benefits that come with it (British MP's used to take money and spend it on themselfs, and we choose theives and liars to govern our countries) and even if they do loose the election the next twat thats stepping right in is going to be the same but change a few things to suit their style of AmaDoWhatIWantTillTheNextElection. You know a small percentage of people would stop a fight even if the guy was on the ground getting kicked in, a womans bag being stolen in the middle of a crowded town I bet only a few would actually go out of their way to help her, the list goes on and on.

If only people were actually nicer to each other then maybe we'd get somewhere in this world, fallen angels banished down to hell (earth)? Maybe but at least i'm a nice one.

Foolishness almost seem to vanish like water in the desert
Nothing there to nourish you and nothing to hold on to
...
When some day soon the second sun will arrive
Much of this foolish water will evaporate
...
Where will you hold on to
Where will you hide
...
Nowhere
...
Wisdom
Wisdom and truth is like a cooling river
Will set you free
Stay eternal
...
Be that river
Become that wisdom
...
We have been calling and calling
Wanting you to join
Wanting you to realize the amazing truth within you
Connecting
On a deep level
Unity
...
We have been calling
...
From within
From outside
...
You were laughing
Asking for proof
...
Still hear the calling?
...
Now you prove
that
you
are
worthy
...

(the steps are already there, in the music in the threads, the truth is there within you, you are worthy.... you just have to realize... spoon feeding are over... what you call proof, will soon reveal itself... if you open your eyes proof have been here since long time ago... you have to break the box... soon it will be broken wide open for you... get ready... you are not a baby... you are groen up... stand on your own two feet and make that choice and live it!!!)

Originally posted by laffoe
Foolishness almost seem to vanish like water in the desert
Nothing there to nourish you and nothing to hold on to
...
When some day soon the second sun will arrive
Much of this foolish water will evaporate
...
Where will you hold on to
Where will you hide
...
Nowhere
...
Wisdom
Wisdom and truth is like a cooling river
Will set you free
Stay eternal
...
Be that river
Become that wisdom
...
We have been calling and calling
Wanting you to join
Wanting you to realize the amazing truth within you
Connecting
On a deep level
Unity
...
We have been calling
...
From within
From outside
...
You were laughing
Asking for proof
...
Still hear the calling?
...
Now you prove
that
you
are
worthy
...

(the steps are already there, in the music in the threads, the truth is there within you, you are worthy.... you just have to realize... spoon feeding are over... what you call proof, will soon reveal itself... if you open your eyes proof have been here since long time ago... you have to break the box... soon it will be broken wide open for you... get ready... you are not a baby... you are groen up... stand on your own two feet and make that choice and live it!!!)

we stop begging ,
it is up to you now ,
activate those strings before the deadline,
we have given the seed ,
and the water ,
time is shifting,
it will be up to the level of negativity u still harness within those bodies,
that will make the difference,
seek balance,
seek unity,
we have foretold the path enough,
the codes are within the video's,
mission terminated,
good luck ,

Some judge here hard. First we must learn we must not judge. So with that all manner of folks that come here. Talking down to a soul whom they think is not pure. Must ask yourself one question. Am i judging in any way. If you come up with yes. You are on your way. Bri, You are great in so many ways for this i am there for you. This is to you That you know whom i am. Or whom he is. The I am The Source. Words of truth and wisdom come from strange places.