Originally posted by zysin5
Nope not kidding, that is why I am asking in this thread.
I have my own ideas and conspiracy theories about HAARP, non of them being much good for the people on this Earth. But I do try to keep that in check
by showing some skepticsim when it comes to these things.
If you have any information you would like to share with me about C3I, I would be happy to check it out.
Welp, there are just a ton of fairly well known and, as it happens, accurate ruminations about why the military is interested in HAARP, and 90% of
that deals with communication, having communication someone else does not, making it difficult for others to communicate and the like. That stuff all
falls under the aegis of C3I. The field of study has been going on since the 40s. The fields of atmospheric ducting and sporadic E communications were
really hot, until someone asked the question - why does ducting and sporadic E happen, and why don't we see if we can cause this ourselves on demand?
And after many years, thus do you beget HAARP.
Among other things the mil guys have been pranking around with the array when the post-grads weren't using it include being able to build a radio
wave mirror with which you can listen over the horizon, same for building a mirror you can use to scan distant territory with without requiring
anything predictable like a SARSAT, interdiction of satellite uplinks, creation of stable radio ducts over long long distances, a few things I can't
mention that are sort of related to this.
They get all the raw research the students do, as well. Thus there is a way to clean out the upper magnetosphere of CME induced particles using the
IRI, but these days it's done from satellite. That's true of a lot of military research done out there. You develop the basics, but the IRI is a
general sort of thing, you can get better end results by designing a piece of ad hoc technology. For instance, there's an undiscussed plasma mirror
facility on the east coast that's carrying on that tradition, as it were, and the cyclotron resonance precipitation thing is aloft on a set of
Some of the things I can't talk about were tested on some of the less-well-documented STS missions as well, and are implemented from orbit too.
That's because the array can't reach very far in terms of angles - you only get a 15 degree deflection from vertical, although you can squeak a bit
more in the right band.
When we were bidding some related design work on the upgrade, we were given a lot of stuff from Siple Station for raw data, I suggest that you
research Dr Helliwell and Siple Station, his work is - um - legend in the HAARP community, not all of it will be on the net, and while a lot of it IS
on the net, or available for the asking from Stanford or the like, the military implications of it will require a lot of groundwork for the researcher
- it's in Egghead. They've gone a long way past that but it was a starting point.
Its just not everyone seems to agree that HAARP is a military investment, and is directly run and owned by military scientists.
As when it comes to the military. The only reason they research is to make something that will cause harm, or used as a weapon.
Its not often that something comes out of military based sciences that "help" mankind. Normally its the other way around.
Of course it's a military investment, and it's run by the Navy and AF. But it's used by civilian researchers, mostly. The military invests in a TON
of basic hard science research. If it wasn't for the bucks the military plows into basic research, you wouldn't have a lot of nice toys. Like the
computer you're using. Or the net.
Grant you, it might be hard for the casual observer to deduce WHY the Air Force is interested in the behavior of Bose-Einstein condensates or the
like, but they fund the hell out of research into them, along with thousands of other topics. And these days, you're really supposed to look for
"dual use" excuses. For everything I bid, I've pretty much got to come up with "and this is how this would be used in the civilian world someday"
essays. Sometimes it's blatant bs and gets by anyway, but you are expected to try