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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
Hello. To make things little more interesting:
Nobody can prove that Universe/Earth were not created "aged".
I mean, according to religions - people are reason for creation,the part which is of interesting to God. So imagine this - there is loooooooooooooooong boring movie. You are interested only in its part between 1999999919919399289839829839 years and 1999999919919399289839836839 years. So this is the part you are going to watch and what is before that you are going to rewind. And when you would like to describe how long you are watching this you will not say 1999999919919399289839836839 years but 7000 years and 1msec for rewinding.
And yes, i know that it is demagogy but i just want to show you that you will not be able to prove anything to anyone who really believes -
there could always bee excuses and similar mind games so i personally fail to see why would one try and constantly poke other ideas as long as it does not concern himself - and it is both to religious preachers or atheistic ones.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by yourmaker
They're not stupid, they're just wrong. I'm sure you're wrong about something too. I'm sure as hell wrong about a lot of things.
Originally posted by EvilBat
Homo sapiens - Anatomically modern humans originated in Africa about 200,000 years ago, reaching full behavioral modernity around 50,000 years ago
Originally posted by pccat
reply to post by yourmaker
I can understand your anger/frustration..
I feel the same way about birthers and truthers..
we all have our own beliefs that we want others to see..
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by yourmaker
No, I'm not trying to accept them, I'm trying to make it about education rather than confrontation. We don't need to insult them to strengthen our position. In fact, I'd say calling people stupid only weakens our point from both the appeal and reason angles. Calling people names isn't exactly appealing or reasonable, is it?
I know that the idea itself is stupid, but to call people, many who are entirely uninformed about the actual facts, stupid is pointless. They are ignorant. I'm ignorant on certain matters myself. I don't know much about textile manufacturing, mechanical engineers, or animal husbandry. That makes me ignorant. These people happen to be ignorant about science, unfortunately their religion tends to cause them to make claims about that which they are entirely ignorant of, thus making them appear stupid.
Sure, some creationists are simply stupid. But any group will have a decent proportion of stupid people in it.
Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by yourmaker
No, I'm not trying to accept them, I'm trying to make it about education rather than confrontation. We don't need to insult them to strengthen our position. In fact, I'd say calling people stupid only weakens our point from both the appeal and reason angles. Calling people names isn't exactly appealing or reasonable, is it?
I know that the idea itself is stupid, but to call people, many who are entirely uninformed about the actual facts, stupid is pointless. They are ignorant. I'm ignorant on certain matters myself. I don't know much about textile manufacturing, mechanical engineers, or animal husbandry. That makes me ignorant. These people happen to be ignorant about science, unfortunately their religion tends to cause them to make claims about that which they are entirely ignorant of, thus making them appear stupid.
Sure, some creationists are simply stupid. But any group will have a decent proportion of stupid people in it.