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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Thats kind of how I see it. Mikeboyd brings up good points, but I cant help but feel that this isnt about America, as much as it is some Americans. In other words, if I go join the mob, its not fair to say America is part of the mafia. Because Im not really representing America. Im me, representing MY interests.
My own feeling is that these Americans who are part of this globalist cabal have no real loyalty to America. They influence our politicians because they can, they get them to use our military to further their ends, because they can, but it doesnt really seem fair to say this is about "America."
These people seem loyal to no one, no nation. They use us all for our resources, and Americas most popular resource for exploitation happens to be our military might, and the people who produce the tax dollars to fund it.
After all, these same people bringing Libya to its knees, or Ireland, or Greece, are also crushing the US. Bleeding us dry, and gutting our Constitution.
Originally posted by PaganArchangel
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Thats kind of how I see it. Mikeboyd brings up good points, but I cant help but feel that this isnt about America, as much as it is some Americans. In other words, if I go join the mob, its not fair to say America is part of the mafia. Because Im not really representing America. Im me, representing MY interests.
My own feeling is that these Americans who are part of this globalist cabal have no real loyalty to America. They influence our politicians because they can, they get them to use our military to further their ends, because they can, but it doesnt really seem fair to say this is about "America."
These people seem loyal to no one, no nation. They use us all for our resources, and Americas most popular resource for exploitation happens to be our military might, and the people who produce the tax dollars to fund it.
After all, these same people bringing Libya to its knees, or Ireland, or Greece, are also crushing the US. Bleeding us dry, and gutting our Constitution.
Well said and an amen to that. But there is a such thing as bleeding too many dry at the same time and the plan backfires because of a tad too much greed all at once.
Greed is also a form of poor impulse control IMO.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
What I don't understand is that as Soros himself is a Socialist, and a number on his team are Capitalist, is what is the real endgame with him.
Its a really good question, and if you ever make a thread on it, I will follow it. I cant figure that out myself. He is a contradiction. Unless he feels that the only way to global socialism is first through global capitalism which is doomed to failure.edit on 15-5-2011 by Illusionsaregrander because: (no reason given)
"Today I resigned from the staff of the International Monetary Fund after over 12 years, and after 1000 days of official fund work in the field, hawking your medicine and your bag of tricks to governments and to peoples in Latin America and the Caribbean and Africa. To me, resignation is a priceless liberation, for with it I have taken the first big step to that place where I may hope to wash my hands of what in my mind's eye is the blood of millions of poor and starving peoples. Mr. Camdessus, the blood is so much, you know, it runs in rivers. It dries up too; it cakes all over me; sometimes I feel that there is not enough soap in the whole world to cleanse me from the things that I did do in your name and in the name of your predecessors, and under your official seal. "
With those words, Davison Budhoo, a senior economist with the International Monetary Fund (IMF) for more than 12 years, publicly resigned in May, 1988.... www.thirdworldtraveler.com...
Structural Adjustment Policies are economic policies which countries must follow in order to qualify for new World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF) loans and help them make debt repayments on the older debts owed to commercial banks, governments and the World Bank.....
SAPs generally require countries to devalue their currencies against the dollar; lift import and export restrictions; balance their budgets and not overspend; and remove price controls and state subsidies.
Devaluation makes their goods cheaper for foreigners to buy and theoretically makes foreign imports more expensive. In principle it should make the country wary of buying expensive foreign equipment. In practice, however, the IMF actually disrupts this by rewarding the country with a large foreign currency loan that encourages it to purchase imports.
Balancing national budgets can be done by raising taxes, which the IMF frowns upon, or by cutting government spending, which it definitely recommends. As a result, SAPs often result in deep cuts in programmes like education, health and social care, and the removal of subsidies designed to control the price of basics such as food and milk. So SAPs hurt the poor most, because they depend heavily on these services and subsidies....
By devaluing the currency and simultaneously removing price controls, the immediate effect of a SAP is generally to hike prices up three or four times, increasing poverty to such an extent that riots are a frequent result....
www.whirledbank.org...
Originally posted by deltaboy
I believe he was set up to remove him from the IMF. Seriously, you think he just came out of the shower sees the maid and turns rapist so suddenly? The maid is probably being paid to tell her story.
Originally posted by Bordon81
Even if this is some kind of made for the media Coup its very strange.
There is some serious rape pathology going on here if you believe the reports.
There was also the rush to get out of the country apparently boarding the first France bound plane he could get tickets for.
The IMF committee have already named a replacement so they don't expect him back any time soon
. I'm a little surprised he plead not guilty to the charges of rape but maybe rough sex like this is not considered rape in France?
Originally posted by PaganArchangel
Originally posted by deltaboy
I believe he was set up to remove him from the IMF. Seriously, you think he just came out of the shower sees the maid and turns rapist so suddenly? The maid is probably being paid to tell her story.
Or he could just be a garden variety rapist.
You are thinking logically..a rapist is not thinking logically. Rape can be a compulsion.
A member country may request IMF financial assistance if it has a balance of payments need (actual or potential)—that is, if it cannot find sufficient financing on affordable terms to meet its net international payments while maintaining adequate reserve buffers going forward. An IMF loan provides a cushion that eases the adjustment policies and reforms that a country must make to correct its balance of payments problem and restore conditions for strong economic growth.
Third, the IMF and the World Bank did not cancel any debt until the completion point, leaving countries under the burden of their debt payments while they struggled to institute structural reforms
In the maelstrom of comment that his arrest generated, the plight of the alleged victim was soon forgotten. It should never be. This is about justice not the careers of high fliers in politics and finance. The scandal deals a grievous blow both to the IMF and to French politics. Mr Strauss-Kahn, the fourth Frenchmen to run the IMF, is regarded both as a competent and progressive head of an organisation at a crucial time in attempts to stabilise the world economy.
He struck out against the high priests of neoliberalism by focusing on employment and recognising that countries facing speculative pressure could use capital controls as a defence. But this was work in progress and the tough conditions imposed on Greece and Ireland have caused many to question how much of the old thinking has really changed.
With interest rates on Greek bonds continuing to soar, Mr Strauss-Kahn's removal could not have come at a more vital time for Greece and the IMF. The flurry of official statements yesterday reflected that concern. The IMF put one out saying it was fully functioning. French politics are plainly not.
As Nicolas Sarkozy has sunk further in the opinion polls, DSK, as he is known, was looked upon (not just by the right wing of the Socialist party) as the only man who could unseat the French president. He had yet to throw his name into the hat, but had he done so, he would have been regarded as the leading Socialist candidate. There could not have been a better moment for him politically. The outgoing president was discredited, the Socialist party in disarray – unable to overcome the turf wars of its warring barons.
With a stint at the IMF behind him, he would have been the ideal man to lead France out of the financial storm. He was not without a history. There had been a string of sexual indiscretions, and a well-documented taste for the good life. In Britain he would have been called a champagne socialist. A photograph of him and his wife climbing into a Porsche in Paris was enough to stir controversy, even though the car turned out not to be his. But a bling-bling president challenged by a vroom-vroom socialist? None of this would have been enough to stop him roaring down the road that led to the Élysée, not so much a grand chemin as a six-lane autoroute.