IMF Leader Arrested After Alleged Sex Attack

Originally posted by PaganArchangel


And what if in the case of the IMF chief, they do possess the evidence and they can support thier claims? Would you believe it then or still see a conspiracy? No one is being partisan here. Eliot Spitzer is one situation, this is a different situation

The only commonality between the two is the sexual factor.

Yes, if there is actual evidence presented that is undeniable i will tend to accept it. I have no reason to defend this IMF guy. Im merely pointing out that the media is known to lie, and that high powered officials are known to smear the heck out of each other in the public eye for their own reasons. Therefore, to immediately believe the media reports at the moment, as all the facts are still CLEARLY not in seems a bit, well, ignorant and naive.

As for Spitzer, I merely provided him as an example of someone who was smeared in the public eye likely due to political reasons having no real relation to the charge.

I'm suggesting that this sort of story tends towards the sensational, which gets eaten up by the general pubic, who love a good ol public lynching, but rarely stop to ask pointed questions regarding who actually benefits from said charges being levied, regardless if they are ever found to be true or not.

The point for this case being guy is about to possibly run for President of France, and this info will liely end those chances, as well as remove hm from his current position in the IMF. One can clearly see alternative motives there if one thinks even a little.

Maybe he's guilty as charged. Maybe. But maybe he's being framed and one can clearly see several different people who would benefit from him being framed. I mean, since when did 'deny ignorance' come to mean 'blindly accept what the media reports'?

Just a simple question: in America, aren't you innocent until proven guilty, or does that only apply to people who represent benevolent organizations?

I don't know if he's guilty or not, I'm just saying, do unto others.....

Originally posted by Reaching
Just a simple question: in America, aren't you innocent until proven guilty, or does that only apply to people who represent benevolent organizations?

I don't know if he's guilty or not, I'm just saying, do unto others.....

Well, it depends. You see, when the media reports something we DONT want to believe, we question the media and call them the MSM. But when they report something we want to believe, like the head of the IMF is a violent rapist, then all critical thought goes out the window and we repeat every saucy word like its gospel!

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Yeah, but apparently that doesnt apply to possible victims of sexual assault. Its okay to suggest they are lying. Just dont accuse the guy with the checkered sexual past who has been accused of trying to force himself on someone else before.

2002: The first dent in their marriage as he's accused of advancing on a writer named Tristane Banon 'like chimpanzee on heat'. She claimed she had to fend him off with kicks and punches

2007: Is named managing director of the IMF, but his victory is tainted by growing rumours about his private life, including a claim he was seen leaving a Parisian wife-swapping club

2008: No longer a rumour: DSK is forced into a humiliating public apology to both his wife and employees after an affair with Piroska Nagy, a Hungarian employee. The IMF wraps him on the wrist

2010: An explosive book is released by an anonymous woman claiming to be one of his female aides, alleging multiple affairs. French press claims he was warned by his old nemesis Nicolas Sarkozy to 'avoid taking the lift alone with interns. France cannot permit a scandal'

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by PaganArchangel


And what if in the case of the IMF chief, they do possess the evidence and they can support thier claims? Would you believe it then or still see a conspiracy? No one is being partisan here. Eliot Spitzer is one situation, this is a different situation

The only commonality between the two is the sexual factor.

Yes, if there is actual evidence presented that is undeniable i will tend to accept it. I have no reason to defend this IMF guy. Im merely pointing out that the media is known to lie, and that high powered officials are known to smear the heck out of each other in the public eye for their own reasons. Therefore, to immediately believe the media reports at the moment, as all the facts are still CLEARLY not in seems a bit, well, ignorant and naive.

As for Spitzer, I merely provided him as an example of someone who was smeared in the public eye likely due to political reasons having no real relation to the charge.

I'm suggesting that this sort of story tends towards the sensational, which gets eaten up by the general pubic, who love a good ol public lynching, but rarely stop to ask pointed questions regarding who actually benefits from said charges being levied, regardless if they are ever found to be true or not.

The point for this case being guy is about to possibly run for President of France, and this info will liely end those chances, as well as remove hm from his current position in the IMF. One can clearly see alternative motives there if one thinks even a little.

Sure, there could be alternative motives, I agree.
One thing is for sure.....
Temptation is a *^^#%$..it is better to resist it at any level, especially when one is that high up in any goverment or organization.
And keep the peccadillos to oneself.
He is lucky that if he is being set up, he hasn't disappeared under mysterious circumstances, or some other weird crap....
But then, that would REALLY have us CT's going theory-crazy, lol

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Reaching

 

Yeah, but apparently that doesnt apply to possible victims of sexual assault. Its okay to suggest they are lying. Just dont accuse the guy with the checkered sexual past who has been accused of trying to force himself on someone else before.

2002: The first dent in their marriage as he's accused of advancing on a writer named Tristane Banon 'like chimpanzee on heat'. She claimed she had to fend him off with kicks and punches

2007: Is named managing director of the IMF, but his victory is tainted by growing rumours about his private life, including a claim he was seen leaving a Parisian wife-swapping club

2008: No longer a rumour: DSK is forced into a humiliating public apology to both his wife and employees after an affair with Piroska Nagy, a Hungarian employee. The IMF wraps him on the wrist

2010: An explosive book is released by an anonymous woman claiming to be one of his female aides, alleging multiple affairs. French press claims he was warned by his old nemesis Nicolas Sarkozy to 'avoid taking the lift alone with interns. France cannot permit a scandal'

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

Yes true..victims are damned if they do and damned if they don't. A woman risks victimization again by the legal system, the cops and folks calling her a liar. Maybe it would be best for these ladies not to go to the cops at all and just wait for a later date to deal with the situation in a more appropriate and private way - why risk the humiliation?
That's how I would deal with it, just sayin'

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

The idea that the Fed is controlled by the Rothschilds is a hoax and a bad one at that.

Shares in the Federal Reserve are controlled by American banks only by law. This means JP Morgan, Citibank, etc.

The IMF comes in when the country defaults, they bail out countries.

A member country may request IMF financial assistance if it has a balance of payments need (actual or potential)—that is, if it cannot find sufficient financing on affordable terms to meet its net international payments while maintaining adequate reserve buffers going forward. An IMF loan provides a cushion that eases the adjustment policies and reforms that a country must make to correct its balance of payments problem and restore conditions for strong economic growth.

www.imf.org...

The only debts that are forgiven are among those nations considered Heavily Indebted Poor Countries and even then it essentially means a loss of sovereignty. They will not cancel any debt until the nation is restructured according to their specifications.

Third, the IMF and the World Bank did not cancel any debt until the completion point, leaving countries under the burden of their debt payments while they struggled to institute structural reforms

www.uiowa.edu...

It should also be noted that debt forgiveness has only been in the poorest African nations on earth and totals less than $70 billion. Meanwhile, Latin America alone still owes hundreds of billions and since they are not dirt poor, their debts will not be forgiven.

Yes, JP Morgan is controlled by the Rothschilds Where is your proof the Rothschild control is hoax? And what difference does it make whether a country loses sovereignty or not? Does that change the redistribution factor? THe US is also losing sovereignty to the UN during all this dedistribution. If debt is forgiven then who picks up the tab? You sound just like all those people who believe the Potus is a nice guy and will pay for their gasoline and mortgate with mysterious money from the govt. I am not going to resort to name-calling here, but not very many here defend the IMF the way you do.

The heading on this page on the IMF website says, "Spreading The Wealth". Can I make the case any clearer?
www.imf.org...

Oh, and by the way, what party is Srauss-Kahn running on in his bid for President? How about the French Socialist Party!!!!! Get the drift here? Socialism always stands for redistribution of wealth.

Dominique Strauss-Kahn had recently announced that he plans to step down as the head of the IMF in order to run for France’s presidential election as the candidate for the French Socialist Party. If the chaos, financial meltdown, and continued Euro-Zone government downgrades, we may finally start to see why Socialism does not work in the long run.

Being the chief of the largest monetary fund in the world is a huge responsibility. Might we add, the IMF is highly financed by United States tax payers’ monies. We find it odd that someone with strong political ambitions and extreme Socialist agenda, can have so much power over our own country’s currency. Where is the leaders of our country when our dollar is under such direct attack?

So coming from the leader of the most important country in world – as far as business growth and economic stability is concerned – it is no surprise that he does not mind the French Socialist Party candidate to go on and try and pillage the dollar. The IMF Chief and Barrack Obama share common views together; Socialism and government is the path to prosperity. This is not a political statement, just a fact about our President!

The IMF is now a political tool used by individuals to advance their agendas and bring ‘validity’ to their points of view. Rather than being a support system in extreme situations, it has become a feeding tube to suck money out of Capitalist societies to support failing, Socialist economies. Let them fail. Socialism does not work and the IMF is solely postponing this realization. This leads us to not be surprised that the head of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) is himself too a Socialist.

shaneedmund.com...

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The definition can very a bit, but generally I think technically sodomy can be anything other than typical Intercourse....'Typical' meaning when you stick your Yoo-Hoo in her Haw Haw....I don't think it matters if you stick you Yoo-Hoo in her Hey-Hey, or her Mmmph-Mmmph. Either way it can be considered Sodomy

By the way those are technical terms.....

Source: en.wikipedia.org...

Alex Jones on IMF redistribution of wealth

www.nhteapartycoalition.org...

I just can't help but wonder why some people are trying to put this Kahn guy in the good-guy hat. He's a Socialist and he's trying to turn the IMF from Capitalism to Socialism. Intriguing thing here, where a Socialist is in charge of a Capitalist venture....sounds amazingly like Soros' use of Capitalist fund managers.

Strauss-Kahn had set out on a "kinder and gentler" path, one that would not force foreign leaders to privatize their state-owned industries or crush their labor unions. Naturally, his actions were not warmly received by the bankers and corporatists who look to the IMF to provide legitimacy to their ongoing plunder of the rest of the world. These are the people who think that the current policies are "just fine" because they produce the results they're looking for, which is bigger profits for themselves and deeper poverty for everyone else.

Right. So, now the IMF is going to be an agent for the redistribution of wealth.... (for) "strengthening collective bargaining, restructuring mortgages, restructuring tax and spending policies to stimulate the economy now through long-term investments, and implementing social policies that ensure opportunity for all"? (according to Stiglitz)

In an article today in the Washington Post, Howard Schneider writes that after the 2008 crash led toward regulation again of financial companies and government involvement in the economy, for Strauss-Khan "the job is only half done, as he has been leading the fund through a fundamental rethinking of its economic theory. In recent remarks, he has provided a broad summary of the conclusions: State regulation of markets needs to be more extensive; global policies need to create a more even distribution of income; central banks need to do more to prevent lending and asset prices from expanding too fast. 'The pendulum will swing from the market to the state,' Strauss-Kahn said in an address at George Washington University last week. 'Globalization has delivered a lot . . . but it also has a dark side, a large and growing chasm between the rich and the poor. Clearly we need a new form of globalization' to prevent the 'invisible hand' of loosely regulated markets from becoming 'an invisible fist.'" (Link---wcampaign.org...)

Repeat: "...a fundamental rethinking of economic theory".... (a greater) "distribution of income"...(more) "regulation of financial companies", "central banks need to do more to prevent lending and asset prices from expanding too fast".

www.informationclearinghouse.info...

So, if he is being set up, then set up by whom and for what purposes? Or maybe he just got caught with his hand in the cooky jar and the IMF have to distance themselves from him.

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by Reaching


This is my first thread. .

The IMF is one of the most powerful organizations in the world. If you held such a powerful position would you really stoop to this kind of behavior?

This story seems worthy of discussion regarding a possible conspiracy

Have at it ATSers - you're some of the brightest minds around.

www.msnbc.msn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

yeah, a highly suspicious claim, for sure.

He 'sodomized' a maid? and she reported it? Hmmmmmmmm. Sounds like someone is being prevented for running for President of France.

I wonder why...?

Yeah...I agree...if the charge is "sodomy" thats just insane....especially for a Frenchman....they are in general not anywhere near as uptight about sex as Americans. In fact a lot of French and European politicians in general openly have mistresses without it affecting their political career at all. Now if the charge was 'rape' then it would be a totally different thing....but wouldn't the article say 'rape' if thats what it was...rather than 'sodomy'? That just seems incredibly odd. Rape can be any sort of forced sexual activity....so that pretty much covers any act of sodomy...there's no reason to spell it out as an act of sodomy, unless they are suggesting the act was worse than the intent.....and that in and of itself seems fairly bizarre if thats the case.

reply to post by bhornbuckle75


naw. it's just antiquated puritan terminology from a bygone era. Police reports in most states till refer to any non vaginal sex as 'sodomy'.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Alex Jones on IMF redistribution of wealth

www.nhteapartycoalition.org...

I just can't helpt but wonder why some people are trying to put this Kahn guy in the good-guy hat. He's a Socialist and he's trying to turn the IMF from Capitalism to Socialism.

Who is this thread has characterized this man as a 'good guy'?

Also, nothing about the IMF is 'Capitalist'.

I really don't care if this scum bag is being set up or not, he sure left the hotel in a hurry though. The guy is an IMF Chief in other words an international criminal. The IMF is a front organization for the international banksters they have been robbing the nations of thier wealth and property since thier inception. The United states and most of the western nations have been in receivership to the IMF since the 1930's. Check the congressional record if you don't believe it.

I can't wait for the day all these criminals are rounded up taken off airplanes, yanked from there mansions etc. and hanged! F... them! They are the root cause of all the wars, police state mentality, and the global meltdown etc. etc.!

Originally posted by Reaching

This is my first thread.

The IMF is one of the most powerful organizations in the world. If you held such a powerful position would you really stoop to this kind of behavior?

This story seems worthy of discussion regarding a possible conspiracy.

Have at it ATSers - you're some of the brightest minds around.

www.msnbc.msn.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 14-5-2011 by Reaching because: punctuation - period in the wrong spot

I'm glad you started this thread (it means I don't have to). I haven't read the thread yet, but as soon as I saw this item on Fox tonight, the FIRST thing that came to my mind was a set-up. It would not surprise me if Sarkozy backers (or whoever wants to get rid of this guy) decided to smear him.

A man this powerful could have as many beautiful women (or whatever his tastes are) as he wants. A man this powerful doesn't even have to pay them. Desirable women would do him for free just to get close to someone this powerful & potentially useful. Yeah, like he's going to rape a 30-something hotel maid.

This case stinks to high heaven.

He's Global Elite scum, so maybe it's payback he deserves for other "crimes against humanity."

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Alex Jones on IMF redistribution of wealth

www.nhteapartycoalition.org...

I just can't helpt but wonder why some people are trying to put this Kahn guy in the good-guy hat. He's a Socialist and he's trying to turn the IMF from Capitalism to Socialism.

Who is this thread has characterized this man as a 'good guy'?

Also, nothing about the IMF is 'Capitalist'.

I was just told by one guy that IMF was not redistributing wealth. My point here is that it is. So is loaning money Capitalist or Socialist?

Here is another interesting reflection from ironically, a Leftist view

leftlaborreporter.wordpress.com...

In January, Strauss-Kahn and Robert Zoellick, World Bank president, met with representatives of the International Trade Union Confederation (ITUC) to discuss how the benefits of economic growth could be distributed more equitably and social protections could be enlarged.

Strauss-Kahn is also working with the International Labor Organization to establish a social protection floor that would provide workers around the world with essential services and income security.

Now something from a more conservative viewpoint

The American taxpayer has the largest stake in the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The IMF has regularly put American taxpayers on the hook to bail out powerful banks and profligate foreign nations with poor economic policies.

For years, government officials have been touting the fallacy that IMF payments are costless to American taxpayers. However, American taxpayers subsidize the IMF to the tune of billions of dollars annually. U.S. taxpayers contribute an estimated 17.09 percent of the IMF’s total funding. U.S. taxpayers recently bailed out Greece and Ireland. It has been reported that Italy, Beligum, Spain and Portugal may be next in line to receive bailouts.

action.freedomworks.org...

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I have not yet read all the comments but I am wondering if this was caught on tape by a video camera somewhere in the hotel hallway. I did read the article by MSNBC and it sounds as though it was an act of oral sex, but I do not know if he had her give him oral sex or if he gave her oral sex. She could have bit him with her teeth has she been forced to go down on him, but it is clearly not stated as an act of sodomy at the site where I read the accusations.

Oral sex is hard to prove unless she left tooth marks. Cameras should be able to help clear this situation up for the purpose of proving guilt or innocence if there had been any at that particular site. I read that he had chased her naked down the hallway and that seems as though there should be some record of that. If so, then his goose is clearly cooked. If not, then it is all a matter of her word versus his word, and it all sounds very strange and peculiar to me.

reply to post by Reaching


I have not yet read all the comments but I am wondering if this was caught on tape by a video camera somewhere in the hotel hallway. I did read the article by MSNBC and it sounds as though it was an act of oral sex, but I do not know if he had her give him oral sex or if he gave her oral sex. She could have bit him with her teeth has she been forced to go down on him, but it is clearly not stated as an act of sodomy at the site where I read the accusations.

Oral sex is hard to prove unless she left tooth marks. Cameras should be able to help clear this situation up for the purpose of proving guilt or innocence if there had been any at that particular site. I read that he had chased her naked down the hallway and that seems as though there should be some record of that. If so, then his goose is clearly cooked. If not, then it is all a matter of her word versus his word, and it all sounds very strange and peculiar to me.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by Reaching

 

“The only thing that gets you shunned in New York society is poverty.”

That's a priceless quote.

My gut tells me, the IMF banker was set-up. Either that or he's losing his mind.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


After reading the article from the U.k. I see that my questions have been answered. The hallway was within the suite, and the act of oral sex was to have been peformed by the maid upon him. Sorry I did not understand that more clearly. Again, had she bit him she would have left tooth marks on his gentalia and that would have helped her case. Because the police did respond so quickly, I am inclined to believe that someone has believed the maid's story. Nonetheless, in the USA he is PRESUMED Innocent until PROVED Guilty. So it goes.