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posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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Obama: "Nothing More Important" Than A Government Job


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President Obama responds to a woman who was laid off from her government job: "Let me just first of all say that workers like you, for the federal, state, and local governments, are so important for our vital services. And it frustrates me sometimes when people talk about 'government jobs' as if somehow those are worth less than private sector jobs. I think there is nothing more important than working on behalf of the American people."
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posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:12 AM
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Honesty from the President. Nothing is more vital to the nation than a government job? How out of step with the citizens of the country can he be?

People want the government reduced by increasingly large numbers. In all the discussions we have over government spending, the really difficult issues are the entitlements, not general government services. A resounding majority of people want those sharply cut and many functions completely eliminated. They want them cut because they are viewed to have little if any value to the society at large. Mr. Obama's views are directly counter to that, that has been obvious for some time, but at least now he is doing more than inferring that he prefers the public to private sectors.

Nothing more important than a government job? Not someone running their own business who hires people? Not someone working to create a product or service that can change an industry, create and industry and impact the economy? Not someone working on pure research to advance knowledge and solve problems? The least important jobs, by far in the country are the vast majority of government jobs.

There are millions of government jobs where should the person simply never come back to work, no one would notice and those are the most vital?

It underscores the entire philosophy of this administration and that is statist, anti-corporate, anti-free market, redistributionist, confiscatory and anti-freedom

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posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by dolphinfan

Obama: "Nothing More Important" Than A Government Job


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President Obama responds to a woman who was laid off from her government job: "Let me just first of all say that workers like you, for the federal, state, and local governments, are so important for our vital services. And it frustrates me sometimes when people talk about 'government jobs' as if somehow those are worth less than private sector jobs. I think there is nothing more important than working on behalf of the American people."
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Wow...he gets more full of himself every time he opens his mouth.
LOL!



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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I completely agree with the importance of government jobs, but then again I'm biased. Truthfully, most people that think government jobs are unimportant or filled by lazy people simply have no experience in the matter. I protect your tax dollars every single day and I'm damned good at it.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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I think you might have misread the intent of his comment. I am by no means a supporter of President Obama, but in this case I think he was referring to public service being important.

I have issues with government jobs beause of their pay level. When you can make more money working for the government than you can a private business there is an issue. The reason government retirements were so good was to make up for the lack of pay over the years. A lifetime of service rewarded with a comfortable retirement, and for the most part im ok with that type of setuip.

NOT what we have now.....



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by usernameconspiracy
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I completely agree with the importance of government jobs, but then again I'm biased. Truthfully, most people that think government jobs are unimportant or filled by lazy people simply have no experience in the matter. I protect your tax dollars every single day and I'm damned good at it.


On the other side, I also work in government and see unchecked absenteeism resulting in huge project delays and greatly increased costs.

Used to work in the private sector where this sort of outrage would have been dealt with rather quickly instead of being allowed to go on for years.




posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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Thats because some positions are filled with people who are lazy or unqualified. You might not be one to fit into that category, but those people do exists. Right now with unemployment still very high, ANY job is important.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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What he said was:
"I think there is nothing more important than working on behalf of the American people."

What you twisted it as:
"Nothing More Important" Than A Government Job

It's a misquote on your behalf. A slight misquote but still a misquote, driven by your bias.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by usernameconspiracy
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I completely agree with the importance of government jobs, but then again I'm biased. Truthfully, most people that think government jobs are unimportant or filled by lazy people simply have no experience in the matter. I protect your tax dollars every single day and I'm damned good at it.



I think you're mistaken. I understand your points, but I dont think the people think the government workers are lazy, I think most people think we need to have government workers, but within reason. For example:

If our government could be run on say, ( hypothetically speaking ) say 1000 people. Not including the Senate and the house, why hire an additional 10k+ people to do the work of 1000? I think the people wouldn't mind having what is needed to run " government" but where the USG went wrong, is the mere fact that just in Bush Jr.'s time alone, he added like some 200k+ personnel. Obama simply expanded on that.

With that, the people are tired of their tax dollars being needlessly spent on payroll for way to many " heads". Not to mention social welfare programs ( which btw are Unconstitutional to begin with ) much less seeing their money spent on the military complex.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by dwmjr1985
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Thats because some positions are filled with people who are lazy or unqualified. You might not be one to fit into that category, but those people do exists. Right now with unemployment still very high, ANY job is important.


I could say the same about people working in large PRIVATE companies, hiding in basement, yarning at the water cooler. etc etc. Leeching off the stock market etc.



Sterotyping is stereotyping.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by zookey

Originally posted by dwmjr1985
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Thats because some positions are filled with people who are lazy or unqualified. You might not be one to fit into that category, but those people do exists. Right now with unemployment still very high, ANY job is important.


I could say the same about people working in large PRIVATE companies, hiding in basement, yarning at the water cooler. etc etc. Leeching off the stock market etc.



Sterotyping is stereotyping.



I never said ALL, or MOST, i said Some. if i said ALL or MOST Government workers where like this then that would be stereotyping.
I'm not disagreeing with you. There are many many many private sector companies that have the same problem a lot of times because someone hire up in the management change is related to someone else.
edit on 12-5-2011 by dwmjr1985 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:36 AM
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So says President Entitlement, what the heck happens when they run out of our money. Right now the dumbocrats are trying to get something passed that will increase our taxes and then they will look into decreasing spending, does that make any sense, no more so than voting in someone like Barack Hussein Obama or Barry Soteros or whatever his real name is, and who really cares what third world country he really comes from, surely no one in Washington DC, he has taken over the title of worse president ever and Jimmy Carter thanks him for it.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:37 AM
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I can accept that in principle, making a vocation or career out of serving the public trust can be the most important thing someone might aspire to. As a politician, the president is properly posturing the role of 'idealized' government service.

But it seems a bit disingenuous to view that position negatively because of matters that are circumstantial. After all, the "job" (as opposed to career) being important doesn't necessarily speak to how many of them there are. Nor does it mean that it's importance overshadows everything else beyond reason.

Sadly, I still remain skeptical of the presidents full understanding of the condition of the American population; but I think your analysis may be overly harsh regarding the thought process behind this statement.

Politics and partisanship aside, serving one's country in it's most rarefied sense is important. As a child, I recall it being referred to as "civic duty" and as I grew and studied, I recall learning of the efforts of ancient Chinese thinkers in the Han dynasty refining the idea of civil service a few centuries before the common era.. They knew then (and made rules to maintain) that societal constructs are no way to choose those in whom the trust of the people must reside. It was they who established for the first time that civil service to the people must go to the most capable, not the aristocrats, or rich merchants who can afford to bribe their way in. In a relatively rare move, the ruling dynastic empire agreed with this wisdom.

I want someone working for the government - not because it's some kind of 'gravy train' - but because they have a heartfelt desire to better the country they serve, to defend her integrity, to maintain the ideals and principles we all want to be proud of. Just because celebrity politicians and corporate lobbyists have forced a devolution of the system doesn't mean the government is bad or the people are bad. It's been exploited, yes.

But that does not mean it should be abandoned for more private interests to engage in governance for profit. It means that oaths of service and promises of loyalty should have binding social value. It means that no amount of glitzy Madison Avenue/Hollywood productions and glamor should outweigh the merits of the actions those who would serve have consequences, it means that commercial media, and commercial interests should never be allowed to conceal or exaggerate reality for the purpose of molding opinion.

In this case, Obama is mostly right. Government jobs are vitally important..... how many of them there are, and the scope of their 'power' however, is another matter entirely. One of which all three branches of the government are supposed to be stewards for the benefit of all Americans, and frankly all people everywhere....

granted, that's just the opinion of a cynical idealist...



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:38 AM
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The majority of government workers are redundant, as or most government programs, government workers are also vastly overpaid for the trivial jobs they perform.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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Really? He states clearly "And it frustrates me sometimes when people talk about 'government jobs' as if somehow those are worth less than private sector jobs. I think there is nothing more important than working on behalf of the American people"

That statement indicates that he views that government jobs are of equal importance as private sector jobs. He further states that there is nothing more vital than a government job, clearly indicating his view that government jobs are the most vital functions within the society with respect to employment.

You can infer what you want about the comments, but that is what the man said. He was not speaking about service in terms of working for not for profit organizations or volunteering. He was responding to a woman who was laid off from a government job and described his views of the value of government jobs with respect to private sector jobs.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Tyrson
The majority of government workers are redundant, as or most government programs, government workers are also vastly overpaid for the trivial jobs they perform.


That I will agree on. The annual salary is alarming!



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:45 AM
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'government jobs' as if somehow those are worth less than private sector jobs


I understand your frustration, but bare in mind, that private sector jobs is what truly stimulates the economy. Not government. Its not within the confines of Congress to create jobs.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by Tyrson
The majority of government workers are redundant, as or most government programs, government workers are also vastly overpaid for the trivial jobs they perform.


That seems a rather broad brush with which to paint a large group of people.

I was in the military for twelve years, not once did I feel redundant... although I often wished I was.

In my time I have known more government employees than private employees. The redundancy you speak of seemed roughly equivalent to me.... more so at the top than anywhere else....

I might argue that as the corporations overtook the government roles, they brought their culture of redundancy with them... because before then, such redundancy did not seem to be an issue. In fact, as more and more corporate employees moved into 'politically appointed' government policy-making positions.... the more exacerbated the bloating of the government became.... is there a connection? Perhaps there is.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by usernameconspiracy
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I completely agree with the importance of government jobs, but then again I'm biased. Truthfully, most people that think government jobs are unimportant or filled by lazy people simply have no experience in the matter. I protect your tax dollars every single day and I'm damned good at it.



Is that what they make you believe? That you protect our tax dollars? You sure are doing a good job at it then. Have you read the news in the last ohhh I dunno how many years.
I guess your to blame for the bailouts, along with many other things.


Deebo



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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He says right there he's more of a socialist.
I think that well governed socialism is much better then capitalism.

But there is one giant obstacle to socialism, conditioned individuality.
You can't brain wash your whole population that money is freedom and then take em away from that so called freedom.

Back on Obama, well it's subjective of him to think this but he is right.
In my point of view, there is a great honor in working for your country, especially in his position.

And you people saying someone at the government shouldn't be making more then for a private company are disgusting.





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