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Ron Paul A Distaster For The USA. Hes Always Wrong. Why Is There So Much Love For Him ? Wrong Paul

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posted on May, 7 2011 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by eLPresidente
Guys all of these are newly registered posters that signed up to ruffle feathers and invoke doubt. Don't pay any attention and they will give up.

What a joke...


Ya I have noticed the same... I am legit and I am being ignored like a corn filled duke....
I wonder what the angle is for these newbees ? It is blatant




posted on May, 7 2011 @ 04:25 AM
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Centralized planning and top down management is rarely effective. For example, since the creation of the "Federal Reserve", the dollar has lost 95% of its value.

The Shrinking Value of the Dollar

As the DOE grows larger, standardized test scores decline further.

U.S. students lagging in global test scores


Out of 34 countries, the United States ranked 14th in reading, 17th in science and 25th in math.

The United States spends more per student, on average, than other countries. In the 2009 PISA study, only Luxembourg spent more. The report notes that countries like Estonia and Poland perform at about the same level as the United States, while spending less than half the amount per student.


Social Security is almost bankrupt...

Washington has long been aware that, unless reformed, our largest entitlement programs — Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security — will go bankrupt

Come to think of it, is there a single federal government program that has not resulted in failure? All of the functions currently administered by different federal agencies from the EPA to the IRS would more efficiently and effectively be run on the state level, which is Ron Paul's point.

States, counties and local communities know whats best for their individual populations as opposed to a giant bloated central government which struggles to do anything correctly and wastes Billions of dollars in the process.

As far as the economy, the facts speak for themselves.




posted on May, 7 2011 @ 04:33 AM
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I'm voting for Paul if I get the chance. Yes he is radical, but I think thats what we need. Somebody to shake things up tremendously, and scare the pants off the establishment.

Entitlement programs must end. Im sick of all these people and their foodstamps.

Keep WIC, keep Unemployment on some sort of Limit

Turn Welfare and Foodstamps into a limited 6 Month Program, The idea is to get a job.

Section 8 is a slap in the face to every working american, it must end. There is Section 8 down the street from me. They are TWICE the size of my apartment. I pay for my little 2 bedroom apartment, while these people live in there section 8 apartments for free. WTF is that? seriously.

I am sick and tired of seeing these people on entitlement programs, with there chrome 20" rims, the latest Jordans, and there fancy cloths. It's disgusting how they get all this for free, and have all the spare cash to bling themselves out with.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by eLPresidente
Guys all of these are newly registered posters that signed up to ruffle feathers and invoke doubt. Don't pay any attention and they will give up.

What a joke...


Ya I have noticed the same... I am legit and I am being ignored like a corn filled duke....
I wonder what the angle is for these newbees ? It is blatant


Are yall referring to me? So because I am new, Ron Paul is not a master mason? lol....right

There is nothing to discuss about this man. He is part of the elite, part of the problem, simple as that. I just wanted to let you know you are wasting your time debating his life/policies. He is 100% a master mason.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 04:56 AM
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I would tend to agree. People arguing in favor of the 'Federal Reserve", seriously?

Ron Paul is a real threat to the establishment and their sacred cows from the "Federal Reserve" to the Military Industrial Complex. The smear campaign is alive and well.






posted on May, 7 2011 @ 04:59 AM
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I don't think you fully understand why removing such agencies will do us more good than harm. With all the money that government will be saving RP wants to start giving it back to US people and re circulate the economy.

They way I see it all these government agencies is like paying for J lo butt insurance or alien abduction insurance or name any other useless insurance that one will never need. If in an event arises that one will need such agency leave it to the state or community will have money to respond to people needs and spend accordingly which is way more beneficial than throwing away billions of dollars in useless insurance.

The way this government works is they want to the people to depend on them! Nope not going happen anymore. People wanted CHANGE in the goverment from Obama but that never happened. I believe RP will now bring that change.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 05:06 AM
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Mikey
lol at the welfair "haters"
the corporate welfare is in the trillions and is the cause of a majority of the peeps on welfare
they also lobbied to let the ILLEGAL mexican WORKERS who don't pay taxes and send their money home and of course out bid the US worker to get AMNESTY
which both bush and obama tried to SNEAK through

Those fancey clothes and bling are chinese knock offs made by the corporations who got
and tax breaks and BAILOUT WELFARE
to send the jobs overseas and put everyone in the US on welfare
see what youy get for "I HATE?"
a reality check


elect ron paul at least he understands finance
and rip offs

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posted on May, 7 2011 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
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You would have to change the corporate economic model for Gold standard to work ...

It would fail otherwise..

But ..... that's kinda the point.....


Yep thats how the people get the wealth back as they step in to fill the gaping holes left by the failed corporations. And I know I could use some wealth.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 05:20 AM
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I have to say that I think that if you are against what Ron Paul believes in, then you are probably part of why the country is in the horrible decline it is in. I feel sorry for you, and may God have mercy on your soul.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 05:30 AM
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That is very shrewd thinking of illegal Mexicans and wrong in many ways I suggest you educate yourself more in the matter before some other fool gets the wrong message. It's completely inaccurate that illegal's send their money back home in... MEXICO.. do you honestly think a man that comes and mows my yard for $10 a month will send that money back home? Don't you think that man has needs living in the US? Who else is going to pay his rising living cost or rising food cost or rising fuel cost with such little money he makes? The problem is not there sir, it's on the people who make the bigger money and fraud that goes on thats making America broke.
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posted on May, 7 2011 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by samaka
I don't think you fully understand why removing such agencies will do us more good than harm. With all the money that government will be saving RP wants to start giving it back to US people and re circulate the economy.

They way I see it all these government agencies is like paying for J lo butt insurance or alien abduction insurance or name any other useless insurance that one will never need. If in an event arises that one will need such agency leave it to the state or community will have money to respond to people needs and spend accordingly which is way more beneficial than throwing away billions of dollars in useless insurance.

The way this government works is they want to the people to depend on them! Nope not going happen anymore. People wanted CHANGE in the goverment from Obama but that never happened. I believe RP will now bring that change.


Well all i can say is with all thoes agencys gone maybe i will be able to acctually afford health insurance lol and little old ladys who just happen to own guns would be able to sleep easier knowing they arnt going to get beat up for it . I hope he does bring some change. It gets old when big brother trys to act like daddy.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 05:36 AM
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Yeah,we are the "worlds only superpower."until China calls in our debt.What then?



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 05:38 AM
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Originally posted by franklin555
I have to say that I think that if you are against what Ron Paul believes in, then you are probably part of why the country is in the horrible decline it is in. I feel sorry for you, and may God have mercy on your soul.


Now put that on a tee shirt for me. That on the back and R.P. for prez on the front.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 05:46 AM
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So, what I get from the OP is that he just tickled pink with the economy just the way it is. Isn't that special.

College grads from 2009 & 2010 cannot find any work at all but still have to pay their student loans...not a problem. The OP says he's opposed to the way Ron Paul would "fun the government"??? You think he means "Fund"...don't know...he used "fun" several times. Maybe he is having fun with the government. If he is, he must not be one of the 22% that can't get a full time job.

I find the arguments the OP uses to be elementary level logic. He says a Federal Sales Tax could not "raise enough money"??? Well, how much is enough? Seems to me it would depend on the rate. Anyhow, I salute the OP for his unbridaled support for the status quo...He's the only one I've heard of that is so gung-ho for the current economy.

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posted on May, 7 2011 @ 06:22 AM
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Um yeah so DITTO what everyone else has said on this thread...EXCEPT THE OP.
Seriously OP?
LMAO

You are the worst disinfo suit EVERRRRRRR.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by gorgi
Ron Paul has been constantly wrong on most stuff relating to the economy. His ideas of what he wants to do to the country will destroy it.


The federal reserve is what keeps the US government going. We need a strong independent federal reserve. Studies have shown that the more independent that are the lower the inflation rate is. He keeps calling the Fed wrong or that Bernanke doesnt know what hes doing but thats just plain wrong. He also wants to bring back the gold standard but thats another failure too.



That alone makes your opinion void.

How could somebody even reach that conclusion?



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 06:51 AM
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How can you say that there won't be enough money to run the government? You stated before that he wants to cut FEMA, IRS, DHS etc... Right there is plenty of money.

You see, as he cuts more out of control departments, the more money he frees up. Not only will we be more efficient we will be more free.

Ask yourself if all the systems we have in place are so good, then why is this country doing so poorly?



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by gorgi

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
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Keynes is the founder of Keynesian economics. He was the most brilliant economist ever.His theories when followed, allowed the world to progress.
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This alone explains all.

You truly are a Marxist/Socialist/Progressive.
Thanks, but no thanks.

Wait, can I string together Hell No Thanks???

Again, if I were you, I would petition U of O for my tuition back.
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posted on May, 7 2011 @ 07:13 AM
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Obvious troll is obvious.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 07:21 AM
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The FED is garbage. 40cents of every dollar the government spends is borrowed. Then we have to pay 20-30% interest on it. So can anyone calculate 20-30% interest on the Trillons of dollars of the deficit. Thats why it is mathmatically impossible to get rid of the deficit. ABOLISH THE FED!



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