It was a pretty good first episode. Definately went in a direction I wasn't expecting.

But if these things are so strong, who CAN they turn to? Death seemed a little too peeved with the Winchesters to give a damn. And Sam looks like he is going to be dealing with some inner demons of his own, to make matters worse.

Hello my friends

The episode was fantastic(and the soundtrack is back!!!!).
I wanted to post yesterday,but i was really busy at work and didn't have much time.Anyway here goes:

At first i was thinking that the Cas-God situation was solved too easy,but then the Leviathans possesed Castiel's body and i shuted my mouth.

My question is:How do you kill a bunch of monsters that are so old and powerful and were created by God himself,even before angels and NOONE has ever encountered them(apart from Death)? I mean as far as we know there are no spells or known weapons that can defeat them.

My Question now would be who will the main characters turn to for help with this problem. My first guess would be Crowley.

To begin with i don't believe that Cas is dead,like the leviathan said.He must be in there somewhere,unable to do anything.And perhaps he will find a chance to defeat them "from the inside".
Crowley is a powerful demon,but we saw how scared he was when Cas turned into a God.I don't think he will be much help to the boys.
My guess is that Lucifer and Michael are the ones who might be able to send them back to purgatory.
Maybe a few pagan gods(Kali is still alive and since they helped her escape,she could return the favor) could help.
Also they might try to find heaven's weapons.If Cas and Balthazar were the only ones who knew were they are hidden,they might find a way to bring back Balthazar.
Of course God and Death could destroy them,but i don't see that happening anytime soon.

Another part of the episode that got me worried was Sam's hallucinations.The part that he saw Lucifer and he told him that he is still on the cage and he makes him think that he is free....Well i don't want the entire 6th and 7th season to turn out to be Sam's "dream" and in reality the rest(Dean,Bobby) live happily ever after.
On a side note maybe Sam will open the cage to free himself (if he start believing that he is still in there) and on the process he will free Michael and Lucifer.

I had an idea last night regarding Sam's soul and Lucifer.
When death took Sam's souls from the cage and placed it back to his body ,Lucifer somehow found a way to attach some part of his "soul"-energy into Sam's soul.The wall that Death placed in Sam's mind trapped Lucifer and now that the wall is falling apart,Lucifer is gaining access into reality and Sam's concious mind.

Is this making any sense?What do you think?

Originally posted by Phantom traveller


Everything is possible in that show,so i'm open to anything.

No matter what else is said that statement is going to be more true than anything else! I might even go on to say anything and everything will probably happen. I just do hope the show does not turn out to be a dream or anything else of the like. Just to cheap an ending.

As to part of Lucifer being in sam's head, hmmm like all the others that is an interesting idea. I would think he spent so much time in the cage that he would be connected to both Michael and Lucifer in some way. I would just also think if what he is experiencing is not just bad memories coming up then Michael might be trying to talk to him also.

This episode didn't provide many answers,as we hoped.More like created more new questions.Boy... the writers know the art of torture pretty well.

Although that Lucifer admitted that he isn't real,i don't quiet believe him.(he was awesome btw).He could have said that, just to prolong Sam's torture.I don't believe that this is a hallucination.Sam said something about "being able to see through the crack".I don't believe Sam is still on the cage,but Lucifer is totally capable of communicate with the outside.

The Leviathans are really badass and i like them.I believe their "leader" is still inside Cas and he is contolling the others.The water distribution system was smart and holds to the original Leviathan mythology,that it's connected with water.

Now with Bobby.He propably never made it to the house.Or he was possessed by one of them in the hospital.I would hate to think that they killed him.
The Leviathan burnt his house and i don't think it was just revenge.Propably there was something in there that could stop them.My speculation is that the only book that Dean saved might hold the secret to their destruction.
They've been lucky before.

Red Golem your wish came true...The sheriff is back.When i saw her i couldn't help myself from smiling and i was thinking that you propably did the same.With Bobby's house destroyed,the only friendly place is the sheriff's house.Maybe there will be a romance after all.

Anyway,this will be a loooong season.Your thoughts?

Remember that the Leviathan at Bobby's house mentioned that their leader wanted the Winchesters to be annihilated. It could be that there was nothing useful at Bobby's house. He could have just been destroying their infrastructure.

Bobby's place was a vital hub in their monster hunting efforts. Thanks to the information the Leviathans learned while inside Castiel, they knew it was an important target to destroy.

I dont know if I have anything inciteful to add other then I really liked episode number 2 and the way they left it at the end where Sam and Dean are almost dead to rights heading towards the hospital where all their enemies are.

Just got done with the latest episode.
The Leviathan problem continues, but they did at least answer the problem with the brothers being in the hospital with the Leviathans. I am glad Bobby is still in good health. I liked the sub plot of Sam meeting up with a monster that does have a good heart. I would like to at times show that a monster with a good heart can happen, although I do like the show the way it is. I did not much like the way it ended, with Dean killing Amy. But I did like his comment "if I live that long". That does play to the point that in there profession they have been on borrowed time for a long time. The number of hunters who have died enforces that point.

Since it does now seem that the Leviathans are going to be hear for a long time I hope they will have more episodes like this that tells the story of a monster and it ends at the end of the episode.

Plus the Winchester boys have both died a few times already. Even Bobby has had his neck broken, only to be brought back to life. Eventually, somebody isn't going to be around to resurrect them.