Opinions needed about demonic forces regarding my son who is only 7.

Originally posted by MavisCruet
Hello,

How is your son doing now? Is he still suffering with the migraines? I should imagine they are very distressing for him as they can make you feel very unwell.Have the medical profession found any causes as of yet?

I myself suffer from migraines. They happen right-sided and feel like an axe has been slammed into my head. Sleep usually clears them (luckily for me). While this may sound like I get off lightly, they have been attributed as a cause to a stroke that I had 5 years ago (along with the contraceptive pill). There are many types of migraines and they can induce all manner of symptoms. They are not likely to show up on an MRI. This doesn't mean that you don't have them. After my stroke I went through a period when I would see things that weren't there, I felt very disturbed and confused and like I couldn't process things clearly (it passed as I got progressively better). I felt like I had the flu coming on when I had my stroke and sometimes with bad migraines (achy, everything seems to loud and bright, foggy head). What I would say, from my experiences of both migraine and stroke is that neurological conditions have wide ranging effects. Maybe this is similar for your son?

Someone mentioned acupuncture as a cure. One summer it was really muggy (low pressure is a trigger) and I had a migraine that continued for a month. Nothing would shift it, so I agreed to let my acupuncturist friend do a treatment. 20 mins later, after only four needles (one in each hand and foot) and it had cleared! Definitely worth a try. Acupuncture also rebalances our energy and clears negativity, so has this benefit as well.

Reading between the lines, and without wishing to sound judgemental as you are obviously a caring and concerned mum, it sounds like your son is a very sensitive chap. Perhaps he picks up on moods and situations around him (whether of this realm or not) and they effect him? Perhaps he is internalising worry about his dad or picking up on your concern about everything (including him). I know I can be like this and that during worrying times I can be prone towards more migraines.

You are his mum, and know him better than anyone. What do you think would reassure him and make him feel more settled, at ease? I mean this both with regards to his physical symptoms and his feelings.

I don't hold any religious beliefs myself, but do believe there are positive and negative energies at work in the universe. I have had strange experiences all my life and they can be unsettling. While your son seems to be afflicted by migraines, it also seems like you have all had a difficult time of things over the years. Get a blessing if it will make you all feel more secure and it will empower you all. I burn frankincense oil when I feel unsettled by negativity (it is supposed to repel negative energy). Whether this works because it truly does this, or because I believe in it I am not sure but it makes me feel safer and that is what it is all about. Try and fill your times together with the simple things you enjoy so that you lighten the tension and shift the energy that is building- I play loud music and do a stupid dance with my son, so that we both laugh!

Anyway, I really hope that you get some answers and find some peace and balance amongst all the things your family is contending with.

What a wonderful post! He is a very sensitive little boy. I've been considering an acupuncturist. I will have to find one that works with children and maybe not let him know what's going on! The idea of someone sticking ANYTHING IN him will send him running! lol But that is on my to do list. Thank you for your kind words.

Something about your child is attracting these "negative forces" specifically to him. My best bet would be to raise his vibration. Think of happy things and feel blessed and allow that energy to take over because when it does these demonic energy can't stay because he'd no longer be a match to it. It'll all be well

Ahhhh I've had comments about how my child should go to Child Protection Services, that someone must have abused him, he's seeking attention because I'm a bad parent, etc. Thank you ATS for enlightening me as to how closed minded people can be. And how quick they can jump to conclusions.
I am done here.
Like Child Protective Services would be the best thing for him. PLEASE! You have no idea what a loving mother I am. I have spent HOURS which probably add up to weeks in and out of doctors offices and hospitals. Traveling 200 miles to see a pediatric neurologist. Give me a break. I am NOT a bad parent what so ever. I just happen to believe in a spirit world and wanted to get some opinions ABOUT the spirit world. Period.

I would NEVER harm him because I "see" evil in him. Which I have stated numerous times that I DO NOT. The thought of that makes me sick to my stomach. What is wrong with those of you who have made those statements? Really. What?
I started a business at home so I could be with both of my children more. My kids are involved in sports, have plenty of friends, play video games and are happy healthy (except for the migraine issue with my oldest) children. We HAPPEN to be somewhat religious and I get scrutinized?! Yes, I believe there are good and evil within a spirit world. And according to my belief system, the evil is usually demonic. There are 1 billion Catholics in the world. I don't know the statistics on Christians in general. It's safe to say the majority believe in good and evil. But I'm the crazy one. Just because I'm not AFRAID to bring a subject up? Well excuse me. Apparently this is NOT a site where open minded people come to give their opinions/debunk/help. You just get attacked by CLOSED minded individuals who sit way up there on their high horses.


Oh and for the LAST TIME, my son knows nothing of demons or satan. Kids this age are too young to comprehend such a concept. He has no fear of these things because in his mind, they do not exist. I have not taught him anything of the sort.

This is an interesting case. Father with a history of mental illness and unstable personality who committed crimes, an intense religious environment and suspicions of demonic activity. If you add the fear instilled in the child's mind by these scenarios, then you get a messy situation.

Personally, after my own experience with these matters, I can say that demons and satan exist in the minds of those who believe that they exist. When I believed in their existence I could "feel" their presence and influence around me but in fact it was my mind projecting those beliefs into my reality. After years of research into the subject, realizing that religions are a wisely constructed prison of the mind and getting rid of nonsensical superstitions I discovered that it was all a creation of my own fears. Haven't looked back since then

Therefore, I believe that your son is probably affected by some form of mental illness that is manifesting symptoms at an early age and also this environment with his father's past, ideas about demons/satan and religious brainwashing have made his situation worse than it could have been, had it only been the mental illness at play.

I hope your son gets better soon and you find out what he is suffering from so that you can help him recover and live a happy meaningful life.

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I think that your not insane also that you should consider where you live...the city and or state. I think the information you gather might connect some dots or maybe just synapses....Yes

I think you've probably seen too many movies lately.

Just a thought.. I'm pretty sure the chance of being schizophrenic (which you mentioned your son's father was diagnosed with.. whether he had it or not), increases by about 10% if one of your parents is, and about 40% if both parents are. (Not saying you are, just giving some info) Also, while it has happened.. especially recently, schizophrenia usually will start in early adulthood.. nowhere near the age your son is now, but like I said, it's happened recently that a couple of young girls have been diagnosed with schizophrenia around the same age as your son.

Op from your description Reminds me of the Scene !
from Father Karras meet Regan mother for the First time
if you really understand and think
its possible its not easy
now if the Father of the child had been similar Experience
You may need a Priest with a Psychologist Degree

Does the Father Family have a history of Physiological Problem's?

Your Soul can be Manipulated & Controlled

The Exorcist 1974 Excerpt 4 Father Karras





Ive Been is a similar situation as I Really do understand




u2u me.. Ill tell you a brief when i was 10 to 14 years old and how & where i was at the time
Im in my Early 40s now

Please make sure you keep a watchful eye on his School and anything involved in the Education Board of your Town City etc.. Especially if the ask you for him to be relocated to a Special School near Medical University's
if they DO This Fight it Expose it! Publicly !! This is what should of been done with me ..

This is Not a Joke OP Especially when it was involved with me ! as i had a similar experience

Ill try to Help U2U me

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Don't allow a few people who find comfort in ridiculing others and judging other from behind there screens....it's comforting to them so they speak without thinking.

The greatest trick the shaatan ever pulled was to convince people that he didn't exist--

I would suggest to try and give him a piece of wood to keep on to at all times.

Ivy, Hawthorn, Birch or Cedar.. If it is the spirits that are bothering this should at least ease the pain

I have paranoid schizophrenia. With that said there is nothing spiritual about hearing voices. Voices and seeing things are nothing more then hallucinations. Figments of someones imagination from a broken mind. Schizophrenia is hereditary and can be passed down from generation to generation. Schizophrenia is a chemical imballance in someones brain. I know from experiance. Every night I take chemicals in the form of a pill.

At one point the doctors told my mom I'd have to be institutionalized for life and that I would never be the same. I've been to the farthest reaches of insanity and back. One thing I came away from it all with was god nor demons had anything to do with it.

Recent MRI studies have shown that schizophrenia starts in the cerabelum which is located in the back of your head near the brainstem/spine. It works it's way forward to the front of the brain and spreads like a firestorm. I get headaches all the time in the back of my head.

Preaching religon to a schizophrenic can do more harm then good. It's like adding fuel to a fire. It will fuel delusions and hallucinations.

Most schizophrenics don't believe there is anything wrong with them as did I. When I first started having hallucinations and delusions I was looking for a reason to what was causing them. At first I thought it was the CIA that they had bugged my teeth. As my illness progressed I thought the hallucinations were caused by god. Then last I thought my hallucinations were aliens. My illness manifested many types hallucinations.

In the end after years of medication and finally getting my hallucinations under controll I realize hallucinations were nothing more then schizophrenia. Having been to the farthest reaches of conchesness and back I feel enligthend to know what the mind is capable of. It funny to think that who we are and what we precieve is nothing but chemical signals and electrical impulses.

If your son gets or has schizophrenia seek help and get him treatment asap. The longer schizophrenia goes untreated the harder it is to bring them back to reality. With medication and treatment it is possible to have a decent life.

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I'm sorry you have been attacked and had your morals and ability as a parent questioned here on ATS. Unfortunately this type of thread is a BIG invite for those types of members. I'll bet most of them didn't even read your whole OP.

For what it's worth, I see a Mom who cares very much about her children, doing/exploring everything she can to try and help them. You have made it very clear that you are pursuing everything you can medically and following all of the doctors advice. You have had every test done that was suggested and seen several specialists. What else can you do? I have been in similar situations and know how helpless you feel when your child needs help and you don't how to give it. Sometimes it comes down to a mothers (fathers) intuition and following your gut.

I would imagine the possibility of schizophrenia has come up? He is rather young, but unfortunately it's possible. That you are wondering if these mental illness symptoms may have a spiritual cause is not crazy. I think it is more than normal for a mom to look for another cause vs. accept that kind of possibility. I know I would. The thing is, who knows? I too believe in the forces of good and bad and have felt it before myself. I'm sorry that I don't have any advice on what to do about it. You obviously do NOT need medical advice and even said so because your son is under medical care(even though some members here seem to ignore that fact).

Spiritually, all I can say is be aware. Talk with your priest about it. If you don't feel comfortable with that, perhaps you need to find another church? Any priest should be open to that discussion. It's not like you are talking about an exorcism here or anything, just a better understanding of how to protect you and your children from a possible evil influence. It has been my experience that sometimes the most loving, open and yes those mentally ill are the most at risk. It seems that they are like an open vessel that have a huge capacity to love and promote God's love but have a target on their back for the evil influences too. Again, just my personal experience has been that self love is extremely important and that any openess (spiritually) is done so in a protective environment. (ie., no speaking in tongues alone and taking part in group prayer vs alone).

Just to take it one step further; if you ever feel a evil presence...pray. Let it know you are aware and that it isn't welcome and that you will protect your son. We are always stronger when we are together, making it harder for an evil influence.

I honestly am not even sure how much I believe in it, but I can't deny what I have experienced be it real or just perception. Either way, praying certainly doesn't hurt anything. You've already said you aren't making any of these thoughts known to your son which is good...kids are very easily influenced. That he knows you love and care about him is enough!! I think it would be okay for him to know you are praying for him though. We should all pray for those we love if for no other reason than to share in positive energy. Again, it is always stronger when shared!

Good luck with finding your answers. Whether it be a physical, mental or spiritual cause. With a loving, dedicated parent such as yourself I am sure that no matter what it is, your son will be okay.

Originally posted by Aeons
God provided an answer and a cure.

You can pray.

And you can go see the people who God gave a natural love of understanding his creations to in regards to this subject. God made people who had the interest to figure out how children's brains are wired up. He made people who had the ability to study it, and apply it to children.

God did His side of the Work. God helps those who help themselves. What you need, God Provided. You just need to go use it now.

Some of the best advice I have seen on ATS.

I was going say something along the lines of this.

G-d often provides help through mundane means. Reminds me of a story I heard about a man during Hurricane Katrina. He sat on his roof praying for G-d to save him. The National Guard showed up but then he said he would be fine that G-d was protecting him. The flood waters came through and a National Guard helicopter came to pick the guy up and the man had drowned.

G-d provides in mundane ways seemingly more than mysterious ways. Just as the National Guard were mundane help, Doctors and medicine are mundane help. Don't reject the mundane while waiting on the miraculous.

Hi ampar84

Check your private messages (I think they're called U2U's on this board?)

I've sent you some information that may help.

Scratch that - apparantly I don't have enough posts logged yet to send you a U2U - check your messages again in a bit, I'm going to go and post to some threads first *sheepish*.

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um, for what its worth.
i doubt the "influence of the devil,satan" etc. look 'id know if i had something to do with it ok!. . jokes!>

no. seriously i dont think such a thing even exists.

the only possession be it demonic or any polarity of a possession. is one of the mind.

and if your saying that people can hear voice, heard sounds,noises, colors, aura's and the likes.

these are still "dilusionary" traits of someone under mind control. be it "malevolent forces">etc< whatever you want to attribute it to. ghosts,government. science. etc

the 1 thing i have noticed. the more the PEERS or INFLUENTIAL people in these "victims" lives. subconsciously stimulate the situation by "their" presence mostly but more how. it needs to be shown as "real" to be believed. or needs to be talked about or constantly on the tongue or constantly effecting them one some level. now this is like living in a room full of magnetic people.

on the other hand. my ultimate explanation is. always.

ITS IN THE FOOD. you are what you eat.


that being said my ex(fiance) was followed by a poltergeist for 15 years. and when she met me it came back again.except im the only one else in her life that could hear it. no one else could or they just said they couldnt to ignore teh fact. this thing got me so crazy @ one point. i was fussying around the room in the closet in the corner. etc. this was a clicking / ticking noise. that speeds up slows down. thats all it is. but it comes out of thin air. like above you in bed or in the wall. u move to the wall to listen and its other side the room in the closet.

in the end i just personified it and treated it as an extention of my "electrical stimulation" or phsycho symantics. if thats the word for it

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Don't let a couple of ass-holes deter you, there's always a few of them kicking around. Most in this thread have tried to be truly helpful and commiserate with you.

Love in the name and person and spirit of Christ, create a bubble of that love and IGNORE anything and everything else, and you will see it fade away so fast you won't believe it. Trust me.

Originally posted by ampar84
Thank you ATS for enlightening me as to how closed minded people can be. And how quick they can jump to conclusions.
I am done here.

-snip-

Apparently this is NOT a site where open minded people come to give their opinions/debunk/help. You just get attacked by CLOSED minded individuals who sit way up there on their high horses.

Interesting how you seem to have bypassed all the good feedback and various advice given and focused only on the negative.

interesting. perhaps focus overall may be the issue here. If you want to go with simply spiritualist concepts...take a look at the two sentences I wrote above.
what are you focusing on...you swat down helpful and supportive things and bring forth only the negative.

Do you think this trait may be applied at home, giving more energy to negativity than positivity?

just a thought..

Originally posted by ampar84
reply to post by illuminatitanimulli

 

That is very true. I live about 10 mins south of DIA (the airport) as well which is said to be built on burial grounds. These problems never really started until we moved here. As much as I try to ignore the correlations, it does seem to be more than a coincidence.

OMG, Why? I don't think there is more of an evil place to live!! Get out of there first and then have your boy exercised for the demon.

DIA is a monument to the devil himself!!!!!

Originally posted by MikeboydUS

Originally posted by Aeons
God provided an answer and a cure.

You can pray.

And you can go see the people who God gave a natural love of understanding his creations to in regards to this subject. God made people who had the interest to figure out how children's brains are wired up. He made people who had the ability to study it, and apply it to children.

God did His side of the Work. God helps those who help themselves. What you need, God Provided. You just need to go use it now.

Some of the best advice I have seen on ATS.

I was going say something along the lines of this.

G-d often provides help through mundane means. Reminds me of a story I heard about a man during Hurricane Katrina. He sat on his roof praying for G-d to save him. The National Guard showed up but then he said he would be fine that G-d was protecting him. The flood waters came through and a National Guard helicopter came to pick the guy up and the man had drowned.

G-d provides in mundane ways seemingly more than mysterious ways. Just as the National Guard were mundane help, Doctors and medicine are mundane help. Don't reject the mundane while waiting on the miraculous.

She has already exhausted her bank account on medical bills i am afraid if you had read the post. She needs to have divine intervention. It does not hurt to try as I could bring that demon out to play pretty easy just by talking to it.