There is no way of stopping these wars. They are driven by money. If all money loses its value, then there is a chance. Even the US postal service makes big money from the war. You cannot fight against human greed, it is very powerful. If you think these wars are not about money, you are very ignorant.

There is no hope for the U.S.

The government doesn't care about us; they did once, long, long, long ago. It has become so corrupt, that we will never be able to dig ourselves out of this hole; it will only get deeper.

It is sad when you say that your younger peers see this as normal, it IS NOT normal! I have to see my daughter grow up in this world and it pains me to see that, she deserves better; WE DESERVE BETTER!

There is no political leader that can help us now, I will not vote for the next president, or the next after that, I will just stand back and watch my world crumble before my very eyes.

I have spoken out many at time before, just to be told to 'SHUT UP' or to get chased off by the pigs for loitering. It's unbelievable how people can be so blind to what is going on around them, THEY THINK IT'S NORMAL!? It's amazing how much our society as a whole has been dumbed down to believe such nonsense.

I feel sorry for us as a nation; ALL GREAT NATIONS FALL. The people just need to wake up to this fact and maybe just maybe there will be some hope.

Failure will never overtake me if my determination to succeed is strong enough.

WE NEED TO WAKE UP!

-PEACE-

Originally posted by Hessling

Younger friends of mine do not understand why I’m freaking out over current events. They consider it “normal”.

Perpetual war…Wall Street bailouts…rampant unemployment…rich vs. poor gap reaching preposterous levels…sky rocketing inflation despite government numbers stating there is no inflation…blatantly illegal actions taken by elites with absolutely no repercussions forthcoming.

Damn it! This is NOT normal.

I simply want to know how in the heck we reached this point and within a breathtakingly short span of time in relation to our history? Do you think we can ever go back and restore our honor?

Even many old-timers are considering this criminal conduct "normal". Such is the influence of the propaganda that is holding our collective conscience hostage. I don't understand it.

When I read George Orwell's "1984" many years ago, there were passages where the brainwashed masses would enthusiastically embrace any new proclamation, even when it completely contradicted the proclamations of yesterday. I thought that was the weakness in that fictional story. I did not think ordinary people could be made that ..... compliant .... that vacant. And yet, I'm watching this conduct in near real time today.

If we can't retake America from these criminal banksters, the military-industrial complex, Wall Street and politicians, I would rather see this country in total collapse. At least we would quit victimising other nations.

Your country was deemed banckrupt a long time ago. This crazy times we see today is only the evolution of Greed ever since the notion of "Free Marked".
The economic collaps had a great deal with banks creating profit from debth. The increasing need to get better and greater than the competition came to a halt i think at some point. And after this point greed is power to more people. Hence the political enviroment must also have gone in great way in the same direction.
I See your politicians and know they can be bought. Not only that, but willingly too.

The patriotic america is still there and just as strong because it always was a dream. And the great love of this dream was the possibilities. But possibilities is now greatly connected to wealth.

The repucliba of America is loved and gives inspiration world wide. The last decades this might not have been a good thing seing countries like Portugal and Greece going banckrupt.

But still we seem to be so startled nothing os done to prevent what seems to be a written path. China will cross america, even though we know China needs USA since theirs business is interconeected thanks to outsourcing. This can be changed back. But not wihouth consequenses.

So its a pickle. USA has the weakness of always taking the low road. Paying away a chrisis they said was natural.

And now i hear about the whole country being defaulted on your debth???

The currency is falling while other great countries with strong economy like Brasil, India and Russia making a deal last week making every transaction in their own respective currency and not in dollar.

The reason your country is so great is the dollar. It has been the stronghold by being the common trade currency and now your losing it?


But that means you might loose connections to the countries that made you great. And the thing is that many actually are loosing the trust in your political course wich seems so fragile with the republicans in the house f£$cking it up.

Still this is not the first time and let me remind you that Great Britain lost their empire and went benckrupt, but torught some slow decades they grew back and are respected just as if nothing happened.

Now why can`t you guys do that?

Yes you are not good in any statistics but one. You all have a great self esteem and use it! Its not just power but a tool. Its your country and the founding fathers made it so. You are the only country havihng laws that can be overlooked by a jury.

What to loose? Nothing! Its about rising up again and maybe show some respect for the rest of the world. We try , we really try. And you never invite us Norway over here by the way

And i should know. I live in a country you call socialistic but its still the greatest country to live in. Not said by us, but by the world! We pay 25 % tax to food and i pay 33% in income tax.The Gasoline cost around 9 dollar per gallon!! But we have healthcare. REAL healthcare. And we all have a roof on 470 dollars we pay for the doctor in total before we get a free card wich means we don't have to pay for doctor, perscription (Blue Perscription pills like Asthma related and ssri) or the shrink.

This system works and i know its badly comparable to your country since my coyntry is smaller than Texas. But you have the ability if you just let the taxes grow. Then your income will to and the country thereafter. EASY

If you can see all this on the surface,you can only imagine whats underneath.You won't really get the full jest of what is happening tell Obama is reelected in 2012.

It's we the people! We the people are the only ones to blame for letting America come to this. If you don't like America the way it is then do something to change it.

Originally posted by FarBeyondDriven69
It's we the people! We the people are the only ones to blame for letting America come to this. If you don't like America the way it is then do something to change it.

Say buddy, can you spare a thermo-nuclear device or two? Hmmm ...... I wonder if BushCo would be interested in selling the missile(s) they stole?

It makes me nervous to realize how all the things stated OP could be taken (more or less) into a good number of western countries, mine included. The whole world would be going downhill.

I've read some ppl claiming for revoultions in our nations. Revolutions against what? Are we gonna revolt against democracy? Once we've overthrown democracy, what will we replace it with?

It seems everything would have been perfectly staged. Poor politicians would lead us to our maximium anger... We would go revolting against them and then put a Total World Tyranny in place.

No, let's not revolt. Just stop voting. Let them show their faces.

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...
They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
~ Thomas Jefferson

I believe that is our only way out of this nightmare. Until enough people understand what's really going on, we're all doomed. Preaching to the choir here on ATS isn't solving much of anything.

Engage your neighbors, your community. Give them a copy of "The Money Masters" or "America: Freedom to Fascism" or "The Obama Deception" or "Endgame", or send them links to these on line. Post them on facebook. Send them articles of the ongoing doublespeak, the ongoing violations of our rights, anything to point out that the world doesn't work the way they think it does, the way they were taught. Maybe they will wake up, maybe not, but that is the only way to beat the NWO.

Resist & support others who are resisting. Once there are enough of us, these collectivists will have no other choice but to wage open war on us, revealing themselves to even the most asleep. Then the real battle begins, but with real numbers on our side.

Originally posted by AboveTheTrees

I've read some ppl claiming for revoultions in our nations. Revolutions against what? Are we gonna revolt against democracy? Once we've overthrown democracy, what will we replace it with?

I don't know where you come from, but 'democracy' has no place in my country. I don't want the ignorant majority determining the fate of an educated minority. The founders on my country saw that as evil & corruptible as a monarchy/dictatorship.

It's time for a war against corruption in our government.

I don't know what America most people are living in, maybe one where everything is perfect, the government is your friend, cops and law enforcement can do no wrong, everything is looking better, jobs are improving, the economy is getting better... Its all good!

Its time to wake the eff up America.