Originally posted by TrowaBarton
What did I learn about HAARP? Only that the government does not want us to know about it and that even the people that they put on a nationally
televised show do not know what it is and had a hard time answering any question about it.
So...nothing? You learned nothing and you learned Jessie had nothing to tell you. Did I miss something?
FEMA camps do not exist? Then why did the government have the episode pulled after one viewing and why did they make satellite/cable providers
go into their customers DVR's and erase the episode if it did not strike a nerve or bring something to light that upset them?
Well first of all, the fact that the camps have been debunked proves they do not exist. That show airing or not does not prove anything about anything
other than that show. Second of all, can you prove to me that anyone pulled that show? The fact that it did indeed air and then was publishe to the
web lead me to believe it was a publicity stunt. I watched the episode. What did they reveal that was so threatening to the government? Honestly, I am
is a thread on that exact episode. You will find nuggets such as this list of
"known FEMA Camps"
Originally posted by bg_socalif
reply to post by Whereweheaded
I like how people continually cut and paste that same old BS "list" that's been floating around since the mid 90's as "proof" of FEMA camps. I like
how the descriptions are basically general in nature, with alot of "possible's" thrown in.
The California "FEMA Camps" you mentioned, in reality....
Norton AFB is now San Bernardino airport. It is not staffed by UN troops. Stater Bros, a local supermarket chain does have a huge distribution
warehouse there though. Kohl's and Pep Boys also have facilities there.
Mather AFB: Is now Sacramento Mather Airport, a cargo airport. Parts of it have become a regional park, a business park and housing. The old USAF
hospital became a VA medical center. And the FAA uses another portion of it for radar.
Fort Ord: Most of it returned to the state. Some of it used for housing and some of it used for urban training.
Twenty Nine Palms: It's an active Marine base. The "camps" mentioned are mock ups of towns to simulate Iraq and Afghanistan to provide
pre-deployment training to Marines.
Fort Irwin: It's the Army's National Training Center. It also has mock ups of towns and villages to simulate Iraq and Afghanistan to provide training
scenario's for Soldiers.
McClellan AFB: Closed in 2001, mainly a business park now. Also has a VA outpatient clinic, hospital and commissary. Also used by Coast Guard Air
Station Sacramento aircraft. Also houses the Aerospace Museum of California.
Sacramento Army Depot: Closed in 1995. Most of it turned over to the city of Sacramento. Part of it still used by the Ca National Guard for storage.
Also a storage site for the California Military Museum.
Terminal Island: It's a federal prison. Along with some industrial areas.
Vandenburg AFB: The launch site is used on a regular basis. Nothing else found except for the same old tired list from the mid 90's. Lompoc Federal
Corrections Center is adjacent to Vandenburg.
Oakdale Ca: Supposedly a FEMA camp was built in the "back 40" there. Though no one can locate it. Go figure.
Tule Lake: Location of a former WWII Japanese internment camp. Nothing there except some tourists at times.
You can actually go to many of these sites yourself and see that many of them have no buildings, no fences, no guard towers, no nothing. Some are
tourist sites, FULLY OPEN FOR BUSINESS, and some are empty plots of land. Research into all the posted FEMA camp info only reveals lists of places
that make no sense and no evidence that even one exists.
You yourself profess a belief in them and state that it is based on the fact that the episode was pulled and erased. How does that not ring any bells?
Showig just one FEMA camp would prove a FEMA camp to me. Publicity stunts only prove someone wants you to pay attention. Well, I paid attention.
Notice how the thread about that episode concluded. The only person claiming it proved FEMA camps were real ended up running away and leaving it to
rot with lists of contradictory proof. That completely outweighs some unprovable conspiracy about the "government" stealing the episode. I guess I
missed it when the story broke that the government was behind such a huge act of invasion of privacy and coverup.
The one truth that Jesse has helped me learn is probably the most important. The government is lying to us about more than anyone can fathom
and that if we do not do something than some of us will very well be sitting in the FEMA camps you claim do not exist while others toil in the fields
under HAARP mind control.
I never said the government does not lie but if they are lying to you about real things while you are hiding from HAARP (because you have no idea what
it does) and FEMA Camps (that you have never seen) then do you not start to think that maybe not every enemy of your enemy is your friend? Some might
just also be lying to you about the other liars so you will tune into Operation Repo - which is fake btw. Operation
Repo: The Movie
TRU tv cracks me up.
Like I said Jesse Has helped me realize the biggest truth out there that we are being lied to by our so called Protecters in Government. If
there is nothing to lie about than why not disclose what HAARP is about..
How do you know no one disclosed whar HAARP is for? They have a website and tours. You can go see what the ydo yourself. So Jessie tells
that he left empty handed and you suspect them of nefarious deeds?
If FEMA camps do not exist why pull the episode off the air and not explain anything to the man every time he tried to ask a question. They
are residential centers? Seriously? I spent three years (all told) in jail and that's what they looked like to me. Prisons
Please review the link I provided and get back to me about the FEMA Camps. I understand that when some people are set in a belief such as these, it is
easier to dig your heels in and stand your ground harder. I ask that you stay true to your self proclaimed quest for truth, open your mind, review the
information provided, and then let me know what Jessie actually revealed to you about FEMA Camps and maybe what you found out yourself about them.
It seems to me where you see no answers and silence I see the only answer we need.
Answers derived from silence are what are known as assumptions. I find assuming to be antithetical to finding the truth in anything.
P.S.I will never take anyone's questions as being combative and I thank you for answering me back as well. I do fell however that you and I
could very well run in circles about this for quite sometime if we choose
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No need for circles. I am only interested in facts. Facts are easy. Either we have them or we do not. I am looking for any facts provided by Jessie.
If he only provides questions, then I am curious what facts you found from his questions. Your describing suspicions based on lack of information are
exactly the reasons I am so curious why after watching that whole season, I am so rare in giving up hope he is using it to actually reveal
reply to post by Whereweheaded
Funny that you are in this thread sticking up for Jessie and it turns out to be your debunked FEMA Camp thread I went to. How do I reconcile these
opposing realities? Perhaps you are still getting back to it?
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