Originally posted by Epiphron
Originally posted by Amaterasu
I'm not trying to make money - trying to get rid of it.
Well, there's your problem. Your beliefs are in direct conflict with your needs, and consequentially, with reality.
No... There's YOUR problem. My Ideas are pragmatic, with full grasp of the tools Humanity has. Right Now. The ONLY stumbling block is awareness.
IF my Ideas do not reach the tipping point - and soon, by present indicators - my daughter will either die or grow up a slave in a police state.
You believe that the more important goal is finding something to sap My energy in exchange for money - with high probability of lifting My standard of
living very little - as opposed to me who, finding that She sees a solution, is driven to give Her best for Her daughter and for Humanity.
It's nice to think that our world would be better without money,
And right Now We can cast it off. We have the ingredients necessary to do so. The primary one is energy from the plenum - called variously "Dark
Energy," Zero Point Energy, Radiant Energy, Orgone Energy, and likely more.
Because money is so intimately tied to meaningful energy expended, the addition of all We want equates to a deflation of money to the point it becomes
not worth the effort while simultaneously replacing directly what we have been indirectly accounting for, as well as giving the energy to robots to do
the things We don't want to do.
Why would You choose NOT to save Your child and Humanity if You had the awareness that We have the technology to do so? In favor of addressing and
stamping letters? Well. If someone offered me a job doing that, I would do that. Applied to many for which that was the prime duty. But in my
spare time, when I have covered that base, why would I be anything less than ardent for that goal?
In some way I am blessed by the tragedy of My life. I have the time to devote to trying to do the VERY best for My daughter.
especially when considering all the problems it seems to cause.
Yeah... About those problems... They began before the solution, the Ideas, clicked. I didn't begin to write The Abundance Paradigm until November
of 2009, which is when it all clicked, and We asked for our daughter back in (EDIT: It was September 2008). So all this You are trying to pin on My
choice to try and save what I can of this planet for my daughter does not stick. A better place to start would be with the "wicked step
(grand)mother." I described her along the way here. I'm sure you can find that.
It's just not realistic.
No. It's just challenging. If enough people are aware then the Ideas will take hold. If I am NOT out here promoting the Ideas, I'm not doing my
Money in itself is neither good or bad. It's simply an exchange of energy. If I built a house for you, would it be fair if I got nothing in
return for my effort?
Yes, money just represents meaningful energy expended, but is the soil for the root of evil (the LOVE of money) to grow in. What if You didn't have
to have a job? What if You could live richly and do what You loved to do - as long as it was kept within the three Laws? Would You choose to build a
house for Me? If it was Your bliss to build houses, and I needed a house built, I could check the web and check out Your work, and liking it I could
ask You if You will build one for Me. Or, if I don't like Your work and can find none I like of any others I can choose to have one of those models
offered by the guys who got together with guys who program and build robots to have Them create robots to build their architectural dreams in a supply
on demand sort of thing...
Point is, by building that house for me - given I like Your work [smile] - You are given purpose through Your bliss, and when I express my
appreciation of the detail You gave it, You will feel very well rewarded. And when I laud Your work on Your web page comments, You will have a
seashell in your pocket. You'll feel the reward every time You read it.
And since you might not have anything to trade in exchange for my effort such as food or other products, the only logical thing to do is to
give me some sort of currency that I could in fact exchange for something that I need of equal value. Hence, money.
I assure You, I grasp economics VERY well. As well as the meaning of the fundamental force in money being an accounting of meaningful energy
expended. And how that correlates with an influx of energy such that it is available on demand.
You mentioned something to the effect of infinite energy that is being kept from us... Again, wishful thinking. You've convinced yourself that
this infinite energy exists, without proof, and you're convinced that the only reason we don't have it is because someone doesn't want you to have it.
So again, you shift blame and responsibility to someone else.
I think I asked You to read My thread, Who are "They?" If not then I won't feel irked here. I KNOW we have the means. I don't want to repeat the
whole story, but the gist is that my father worked in a science called "electrogravitics" and taught me as much as he could teach a toddler, showing
me the world I would be growing up in. It included both free energy and antigravity. When it went into black ops, he came home and told me to forget
about it and that "They want it secret for now."
No "convincing" involved.
Not "shifting blame." The blame is on Us for continuing in Our silence about what We know. My job is to change that.
Our world cannot exist without currency.
This is technically correct - but note the term You use... "Currency." Energy. We need energy, and if it were freely available, We would not need
money to represent it.
It's only lazy people who adopt these beliefs that we should get rid of money because they feel entitled to get everything without having to do
Excuse Me!?! Since I don't fall into that category, let's see who else might suggest that. How about One who sees an end to poverty? One who sees
an end to hunger, genmod, cheap products, waste, having to do jobs One does not like (waste of finite time), the vast portion of crime, Neotame, power
elite, pharmaceuticals that sicken, requiring more pharmaceuticals while plants which actually heal are kept "illegal," war, social friction...
One who sees all that as an option based on deep analysis over 50 years...One such as that suggests it. With fervor.
As long as people are able to do things that others cannot or will not do, then there will be a need for currency.
Well, the work no one wants to do can be done by robot these days. And though there will be a need for currency, it will manifest on a social level
rather than a monetary, materialistic level.
I suggest you drop these delusions and adapt your beliefs to reality. Otherwise, your situation can only get worse.
I suggest You understand that I have more data than most and have worked on this problem all my life. That perhaps a bit of humble research will
bring You to the realization that Your emota-epitaph, "delusions," is inappropriate and that We have known about overunity (plenum energy) for over 50
Something has got to give. You either stop trying to get a job, which is contradictory to your claim that you aren't trying to make money, and
just live according to however you seem to think our world would work without money, or you change your beliefs and align them with the world that we
live in, the world where money is necessary.
Hahaha! The Ideas don't work until they reach the tipping point. Until then I'm stuck in this matrix. And having money is conducive to building
prototypes if One has any left after paying the bills (slavery where One handles the housing and utilities Oneself - unless One loves One's work).
And getting attorneys. That last would be first if We could.
edit on 4/27/2011 by Amaterasu because: correction