Originally posted by GodIsPissed
reply to post by SaturnFX
Why are you sticking up for the devil worshipers?
I am not, its a strawman argument overall though
How can you justify what she's doing?
What is she offically doing? making music and entertainment...
Do you believe in what she's doing?
I have no issue with it...believe? not sure what you mean there...I see her making music, entertaining, and expressing her artistic visions..be it an
egg in her hair, a meat dress, etc...some she pulls off well, some seems to miss the mark, but she certainly gets people talking, and for someone who
works where fame is critical, I think she is doing her job well.
Do you agree with it?
Same answer as previous
Do you like all the sex and violence and DEVIL worshiping being pushed on your kids(if you have any)?
Sex is fun, violence...not a fan of, but on the pushing violence scale of 1-10 in the music industry, I would give her a 3...perhaps less. I think
pretty much all other genre's of music are far more prominent in that area, from country hank to rap snoop and across the board...not a fan overall
of that angle..sex I have no issue with in promotion.
lady gaga videos should not be watched by youth..nor should porn, or rated R movies unless the parents are right there to put things in perspective
for the kid to begin with.
I do not blame musicians, movie directors, or anyone else for lazy parenting...I am old school there in that parents should actually monitor what
their kids watch and be there to explain and put in perspective what they are.
For you to sit there and stick up for her says that you do agree with her!
You seem to be stuck asking the same question over and over..
She gets hated on for the things she does.Why are you defending her?
She supposedly does anyhow.
hate is a ugly trait
I am defending her not because I am some big fan, but because the arguments are silly and small, its character assassination and the same old
arguments given since I was a kid. back in my day, it was iron maiden, motley crew, black sabbath, etc...all this devil worshipping music they
iron maiden is a good example...they did a album titled "The number of the beast"...the fundys went nuts, demanding the whole band made a deal with
the devil, all are evil, demons, etc etc etc
Well, first off...I was friends with a couple of em, and partied with em whenever they were in florida. good times, but demons...erm..no.
the lead singer is actually a conspiracy theorist intellect actually. So, people auto-hate anything that isn't understood by them and attach their
own persona demons onto others.
The argument about gaga presented
she worships the devil...if you defend her, you are defending devil worship
of course, there is no evidence she is some sort of devil worshipper at all, in the same way that iron maiden band members were labelled devil
worshippers (they aren't btw).
Its like me saying you are a pedophile because of (insert reason here based on pure opinion), then me slamming anyone defending your thoughts
on...say, politics...because I stated your a pedo, and everyone whom defends your political viewpoints is defending pedophilia.
See the issue...total strawman argument.
The only thing known about her religious stance was that she went to catholic school...therefore she is either a catholic, or a reformed catholic
(agnostic), which I think is probably the case considering one of her lyrics in the song teeth says she has no religion.
Only fundys call agnostics and athiests devil worshippers...you can dismiss them as they think everything is satanic anyhow...and I fight with them
whenever possible just on principle and the lulz.
She needs to defend herself..but she won't.
You mean...she needs to follow every nut on the net slandering her to defend herself 24/7, or just laugh at the latest nonsense rumor and continue on
I see no reason she, or anyone else, must answer to every quacky conspiracy and label someone tosses on them on the internet...would you spend your
entire life chasing down rumors on the net?
The only thing she did defend herself on and said no was the herm question, and that was because barbara walters asked her directly...of course, the
truely nutty will continue believing anyhow, because they like to spread dishonesty
Something in the bible about those whom spread dishonesty and bear false witness...hmm...
I have never heard anyone defend themselves when they are accused of being a devil worshiper.Nope,instead they go out and make more videos promoting
Thats because everyone with even a ounce of fame is labelled a devil worshipper...straight across the board.
name a single person (to include televangilists) whom hasn't been accused by someone somewhere of devil worshipping.
And you have never heard anyone defending themselves? Well, back to the iron maiden example..they actually did. they said it was just pop gimmick,
they are not devil worshippers
guess what...the fundys didn't believe them and continued on with their crusade.
there is no defense against the insanity and delusions in someone elses mind..if they believe something about you, there simply is never enough proof
to show differently...so hell, turn it and make a buck off of their yelling.
Let me give you a clue(just a little one)about how big the Illumintai are..since it all comes back to this because they are the ones that control what
you watch!The tv is not just there to entertain you...they don't call them programs for nothing!
read up a couple posts...if I believe what ATS tells me, then there is nothing but illuminati control...everything from the giant entertainment, to
the sweeteners I put in my drink, to the cows I eat, to the air I breath.
wont repeat that same post...just reread it.
Have you all seen that commercial with Beyonce?It's an eyeliner commercial and guess what she says??She says "illuminate your eyes" with I believe
what is called "the Illuminator"..
illuminate...light up...sounds better
you realize illuminate is an actual english word, right?
Now, to step in line with you for just a half second due to you triggering my random interesting fact.
it was considered by the early church that painting ones face is a sign of witchcraft and satan worship...funny, the illuminati satanic face paint by
beyonce...doesn't have the same ring though, best to go with "illuminate"
Another thing to go with twisted esoteric thinking, the word conspiracy
con sphere I see
I see cons sphere (sphere meaning world)
I see the false world
see, you can start overthinking things and read into all sorts of nonsense if you truely want to. alot of this illuminati is everywhere stuff is just
that, reading and rereading into something until you see all types of things that aren't there
the esoteric game is fun, but ultimately meaningless..mental exercise of the brain that is designed to not just recognise patterns, but make patterns
up even when none are present.
But I digress. (also impressed if you read my wall of text posts btw...kudos to you or anyone else whom has the patience to even skim through it.)
Look at what Beyonce is promoting here and if you can't see it then you are either blind or..we won't get into to that.
Actually, I see she is promoting beauty products.
hmm, isn't beauty the domain of the lord?
see...she is an angle
(see what I did just there...assign a intent, then mold the argument to reflect what you want the intent to be. You do the same thing, but to point at
devil worship or whatnot...mold the facts to fit your intent...you could do the exact same thing in reverse and "prove" she, or anyone, is actually
working -for- a christian god, or buddism, or anything else..
again, the human brain is great at finding patterns, or simply making patterns up when none are present.
Anyhow, its a good convo, I don't reckon it will go on much longer sadly, starting to die down in here, but was certainly a worthy weekend debate to
have. Cheers for the respectable back and forth..I do hope we bump heads again in the future...