Lady Gaga grows HORNS. Seriously. wtf?

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The OP mentions Alexander McQueen, hence my posts on him and his connection to GaGa. But yes, his final collection just speaks volumes of where his head was shortly before committing suicide.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
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Cool stuff

One thing I totally am not a fan of with his work is the whole no hair/bald thing. sorry, I can totally dig the fashion, great work...but women have hair.

I see no symbolism beyond "roman emperor...pope....medieval scribe....another pope....wedding dress turning into golden ice queen....nun...spanish inquisitor...

colorful...would be great to see a streetful of people dressed in such costumes, but the symbolism? didn't see it (didn't watch the video, just looked at the pics...you talking the vid?)

Hell's Angels and Prolific Demons... There are angels in his fabric and the demons are the images of clergy back when they were an especially terrible group. These images for the most part are left out of fashion. It's as if he was battling something inside of himself. The collection in the video shows a naked woman with a snake, letting it slither all over her body. Then she morphs into an energy pattern and finally stars. This is a throwback to faith and spirituality/duality of good and evil with "new age" metaphysical concepts thrown in for good measure.

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Well Britney,Christina Aguilera and Justin Timberlake were all part of the Mickey Mouse club..

Remember this?


This is what your kids are watching!

reply to post by GodIsPissed


Well, that simply proves it...

illuminati entertainment > non-illuminati entertainment.

seriously...everyone whom has achieved anything and is a decent singer/actor/anything = illuminati...

who is non-illuminati? Bob Denver? Perhaps the beegees?

What I have learned from ATS is that every form of entertainment, every advanced technology, every single thing considered good, tasty, fun, or amusing = illuminati tool.

I am left to then conclude anyone not in this "club" are non-contributory apes with no talent that give very little towards human civilization.

They even have the major world religions straight across the board..so us chimps haven't even got that as our own..

conclusion: the non-illuminati are the aliens here that are little more than the dumb pets of the illuminati providers...sounds like its either join them, or simply enjoy what they provide.

Either -everything- is illuminati controlled, everything...every single stinking thing...or people are putting far too much paranoia and thought into everything around them

Occam's razor should be used here..
this secret multi-thousand (at least) year old group has converted everything, from religion, technology, entertainment, education, etc...into a tool used by this shadow government..yet something (undefined) keeps them from...I don't know, turning us into food or mining slaves or something...whatever their final goal is.
99% of the population on earth is totally dumbed down into slavery already...
the 1% cannot even agree on what is what...total disarray...
yet, these super masters of earth can't figure out how to close the deal, so they kill off a musician here, they make another musician famous there, all seeming to poke in the dark for the final curtain to drop with no final success...
They desire population reduction, however are doing perhaps the most crap job considering the incredible population explosion..remember, masters of all things but can't figure out how to resurrect the black plague that would be ultimately labelled just another unfortunate plague..one of many that has hit the earth...

or

1% of the population may just be seeing far too much into entertainment and a bit paranoid.

Which is the most simple answer?

I can see what you point out, I am not daft, I see the symbols, the interesting coincidences, etc...however, I have the ability to step back and let reason kick in, which makes me note no real action is ever taken beyond older people grumping about how todays music is rotting the kids brain (same argument thats been going on since music has been around)...

See the overall hurdle I can't get over when pondering this stuff? Occam's razor must be an illuminati tool also...damn, they have also cornered the logic and reason market!

I jest alot, but the points do need to be answered...how can a organization so incredibly talented also be so full of fail to complete the mission (whatever it may be)?
If I was in charge and the mission was to turn earth into proper slaves...it would have been done aaaaaages ago. plague, nazilike invasion, total wipeout of electric grids across the world, destruction of any and all education institutions, and damn sure wouldn't be any internet...

Am I smarter than the whole collective of the illuminati? I think not considering what they have supposedly done...so, the conclusion must be that either the "mission" is actually a neutral/positive one, or they simply don't exist in regards to how its described by the conspiracy community.

is there a counter to this argument that doesn't sound totally crazy?

Okay a few things bouncing around in my head after reading a couple pages:

1. Lady Gaga

2. This thread has 10 pages! As much as she's criticized, ATS'ers love to post about her apparently.

3. ATS'ers always complain about not being taken seriously by others. Then this Lady Gaga thread is created. You just gave them more ammo, IMO.

4. Lady Gaga

Once again just MHO.

I never even thought she was cute before she had all the plastic surgery. Icky, and not a surprise. I guess the real beast on the inside wants to come out and play. How is it that people like this manage to get so famous? I just can't believe the depths that the world in general is sinking to.

Originally posted by InFriNiTee
How is it that people like this manage to get so famous? I just can't believe the depths that the world in general is sinking to.

So...consider the questions then

1) What were you personally doing at 4 years old? What were you learning? What did you do well?
-gaga learned the piano

2) What were you doing at 13? What contributions to the world did you give?
-gaga composed her first ballet

3) What about 14? What was your neat hobby?
-gaga was preforming at open mic nights.

I am not saying she is some exceptional creature that deserves super stardom, I am simply saying the argument that she doesn't deserve it, no talent, etc...is all substance free and typically spoken by those simply subconsciously angry that they don't feel they measure up
Chick worked for what she got...you don't have to like her music, or her overall persona...but to suggest she is without talent or drive says nothing about her, but speaks volumes about how you judge people.

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10 pages, this has gotten pretty deep. I think it's good to point out how far people's standards worldwide have shrunken though. I actually had a chance to meet band last June. Actually I got to hang out with a band called 10 Years when they were here in concert. They were totally cool to me, and let me on their tour bus to check it out. Plus a backstage pass. All I had to do was walk around the back to where they were tuning up the guitars and strike up a conversation.

Needless to say, I ran into a female lead singer for a band that will go from here unnamed. I don't think they deserve the publicity. She was at total Bi+ch when I ran into her in the alleyway. I was just walking back to the front of the auditorium. The thing is that they were the band that was headlining the tour here.

I think that celebrities will do just about anything to gain popularity, when the people who make up their bands can be good or bad just like anyone else. Be careful to only support musical acts that support your beliefs. One of mine is that the performing artist(s) should always meet the fans after the show.

My point is the media is very much to blame for the rise in popularity of the crap that none of the real people want to hear. Everyone should quit going to her concerts. The world would be better off.

Originally posted by bg_socalif
2. This thread has 10 pages! As much as she's criticized, ATS'ers love to post about her apparently.

3. ATS'ers always complain about not being taken seriously by others. Then this Lady Gaga thread is created. You just gave them more ammo, IMO.

I am responsible for some of that.
I will always try to keep these threads alive...not because I am some mega fan of her mind you, but because I am a huge fan of showing the judgemental ATSers up whenever possible.

A website bent on denying ignorance, yet if you crawl through this thread, you will see its shallow judgement after shallow judgement, all for the purpose of feeling superior (the subconscious aspect at play is envy and anger towards achievement).

So, for me, this is not a waste of time...I relish in shining a light on the self proclaimed "awakened" when they become petty and angry at any form of fame.

oh, and then I got into a actual interesting discussion about symbols and such...that burned up a page or two...

But ya, the joy of threads like these is to watch the ATS crowd grab torches and run at anyone with fame, then become enraged when you go against the grain and suggest the person may actually be talented.

your not supposed to think differently round these parts...

Originally posted by InFriNiTee
that none of the real people want to hear.

ahh the real people...

real people of course meaning whomever listens to what you listen to...everyone else is fake or retarded.

Originally posted by Monkeygod333

Originally posted by freedish
reply to post by Monkeygod333

 

if you do some research on lady gaga you'll find that she called in a paranormal investigation team to her house. apparently she has a problem with uninvited spirits. my opinion- i think they are demons. I think gaga is being used by them to carry out Lucifer's plan.

oh and don't forget she arrived to an awards show inside an egg and hatched....pretty freakin creepy.

oh and her music is ridiculously catchy...it's almost like she is getting inspiration from somewhere else....
..like maybe satan. but ignore me...im just some crazy uneducated socially backwards bible thumping christian.

Hey, thank you for the post. My feelings exactly.
If you mess with the dark side you WILL open yourself to very bad elements…YOU JUST DON’T DO THAT.

I remember when I was young the general train of thought is that rock bands sell their soul to the devil to become famous. At the time I was like…Pfffft Whatever.
Now though….

haha funny u say that....

there was this guy on 700 club who said he did that...i posted the link.

700 club

reply to post by SaturnFX


Why are you sticking up for the devil worshipers?

How can you justify what she's doing?

Do you believe in what she's doing?Do you agree with it?Do you like all the sex and violence and DEVIL worshiping being pushed on your kids(if you have any)?

For you to sit there and stick up for her says that you do agree with her!

She gets hated on for the things she does.Why are you defending her?She needs to defend herself..but she won't.I have never heard anyone defend themselves when they are accused of being a devil worshiper.Nope,instead they go out and make more videos promoting the devil!

Let me give you a clue(just a little one)about how big the Illumintai are..since it all comes back to this because they are the ones that control what you watch!The tv is not just there to entertain you...they don't call them programs for nothing!

Have you all seen that commercial with Beyonce?It's an eyeliner commercial and guess what she says??She says "illuminate your eyes" with I believe what is called "the Illuminator"..

Look at what Beyonce is promoting here and if you can't see it then you are either blind or..we won't get into to that.
Just one tiny aspect speaks volumes people!
www.lorealparis.ca...

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Why are you sticking up for the devil worshipers?

I am not, its a strawman argument overall though

How can you justify what she's doing?

What is she offically doing? making music and entertainment...

Do you believe in what she's doing?

I have no issue with it...believe? not sure what you mean there...I see her making music, entertaining, and expressing her artistic visions..be it an egg in her hair, a meat dress, etc...some she pulls off well, some seems to miss the mark, but she certainly gets people talking, and for someone who works where fame is critical, I think she is doing her job well.

Do you agree with it?

Same answer as previous

Do you like all the sex and violence and DEVIL worshiping being pushed on your kids(if you have any)?

Sex is fun, violence...not a fan of, but on the pushing violence scale of 1-10 in the music industry, I would give her a 3...perhaps less. I think pretty much all other genre's of music are far more prominent in that area, from country hank to rap snoop and across the board...not a fan overall of that angle..sex I have no issue with in promotion.
lady gaga videos should not be watched by youth..nor should porn, or rated R movies unless the parents are right there to put things in perspective for the kid to begin with.
I do not blame musicians, movie directors, or anyone else for lazy parenting...I am old school there in that parents should actually monitor what their kids watch and be there to explain and put in perspective what they are.

For you to sit there and stick up for her says that you do agree with her!

You seem to be stuck asking the same question over and over..

She gets hated on for the things she does.Why are you defending her?

She supposedly does anyhow.
hate is a ugly trait
I am defending her not because I am some big fan, but because the arguments are silly and small, its character assassination and the same old arguments given since I was a kid. back in my day, it was iron maiden, motley crew, black sabbath, etc...all this devil worshipping music they screamed out..
iron maiden is a good example...they did a album titled "The number of the beast"...the fundys went nuts, demanding the whole band made a deal with the devil, all are evil, demons, etc etc etc
Well, first off...I was friends with a couple of em, and partied with em whenever they were in florida. good times, but demons...erm..no.
the lead singer is actually a conspiracy theorist intellect actually. So, people auto-hate anything that isn't understood by them and attach their own persona demons onto others.

The argument about gaga presented
she worships the devil...if you defend her, you are defending devil worship
of course, there is no evidence she is some sort of devil worshipper at all, in the same way that iron maiden band members were labelled devil worshippers (they aren't btw).

Its like me saying you are a pedophile because of (insert reason here based on pure opinion), then me slamming anyone defending your thoughts on...say, politics...because I stated your a pedo, and everyone whom defends your political viewpoints is defending pedophilia.
See the issue...total strawman argument.

The only thing known about her religious stance was that she went to catholic school...therefore she is either a catholic, or a reformed catholic (agnostic), which I think is probably the case considering one of her lyrics in the song teeth says she has no religion.

Only fundys call agnostics and athiests devil worshippers...you can dismiss them as they think everything is satanic anyhow...and I fight with them whenever possible just on principle and the lulz.

She needs to defend herself..but she won't.

You mean...she needs to follow every nut on the net slandering her to defend herself 24/7, or just laugh at the latest nonsense rumor and continue on with life...
I see no reason she, or anyone else, must answer to every quacky conspiracy and label someone tosses on them on the internet...would you spend your entire life chasing down rumors on the net?
The only thing she did defend herself on and said no was the herm question, and that was because barbara walters asked her directly...of course, the truely nutty will continue believing anyhow, because they like to spread dishonesty

Something in the bible about those whom spread dishonesty and bear false witness...hmm...

I have never heard anyone defend themselves when they are accused of being a devil worshiper.Nope,instead they go out and make more videos promoting the devil!

Thats because everyone with even a ounce of fame is labelled a devil worshipper...straight across the board.
name a single person (to include televangilists) whom hasn't been accused by someone somewhere of devil worshipping.
And you have never heard anyone defending themselves? Well, back to the iron maiden example..they actually did. they said it was just pop gimmick, they are not devil worshippers
guess what...the fundys didn't believe them and continued on with their crusade.
there is no defense against the insanity and delusions in someone elses mind..if they believe something about you, there simply is never enough proof to show differently...so hell, turn it and make a buck off of their yelling.

Let me give you a clue(just a little one)about how big the Illumintai are..since it all comes back to this because they are the ones that control what you watch!The tv is not just there to entertain you...they don't call them programs for nothing!

read up a couple posts...if I believe what ATS tells me, then there is nothing but illuminati control...everything from the giant entertainment, to the sweeteners I put in my drink, to the cows I eat, to the air I breath.
wont repeat that same post...just reread it.

Have you all seen that commercial with Beyonce?It's an eyeliner commercial and guess what she says??She says "illuminate your eyes" with I believe what is called "the Illuminator"..

illuminate...light up...sounds better
you realize illuminate is an actual english word, right?

Now, to step in line with you for just a half second due to you triggering my random interesting fact.
it was considered by the early church that painting ones face is a sign of witchcraft and satan worship...funny, the illuminati satanic face paint by beyonce...doesn't have the same ring though, best to go with "illuminate"

Another thing to go with twisted esoteric thinking, the word conspiracy
con sphere I see
I see cons sphere (sphere meaning world)
I see the false world

see, you can start overthinking things and read into all sorts of nonsense if you truely want to. alot of this illuminati is everywhere stuff is just that, reading and rereading into something until you see all types of things that aren't there

the esoteric game is fun, but ultimately meaningless..mental exercise of the brain that is designed to not just recognise patterns, but make patterns up even when none are present.

But I digress. (also impressed if you read my wall of text posts btw...kudos to you or anyone else whom has the patience to even skim through it.)

Look at what Beyonce is promoting here and if you can't see it then you are either blind or..we won't get into to that.

Actually, I see she is promoting beauty products.
hmm, isn't beauty the domain of the lord?
see...she is an angle
(see what I did just there...assign a intent, then mold the argument to reflect what you want the intent to be. You do the same thing, but to point at devil worship or whatnot...mold the facts to fit your intent...you could do the exact same thing in reverse and "prove" she, or anyone, is actually working -for- a christian god, or buddism, or anything else..
again, the human brain is great at finding patterns, or simply making patterns up when none are present.

Anyhow, its a good convo, I don't reckon it will go on much longer sadly, starting to die down in here, but was certainly a worthy weekend debate to have. Cheers for the respectable back and forth..I do hope we bump heads again in the future...

reply to post by SaturnFX


You are a professional at avoiding the truth.

I know you like living in that box..it's comfortable.Nobody wants to believe that these things are happening.People just want things to stay the same..Now if only all those war torn countries could feel that same comfortableness as you feel.

Say you lived in one of those countries where you can't sleep at night because of all the bombs being dropped.Or lost your family because of war,you just might think differently about who's running the world!People are dying in Afghanistan over something that wasn't even their fault!!

While you sleep in your nice warm bed watching Lady Gaga perform her Satan worshiping sex act or whatever you call it,you probably call it a "gimmick"..while you're watching that with your kids,children are losing their parents in a premeditated war caused by your trusty government..aka the Illuminati.The proof is everywhere,that one commercial with Beyonce is just a speck of proof.

And no matter what you tell kids they are going to have their own opinion as to what it all means..and people like you are in the minority nowadays,everybody is saying the same thing and agreeing.

And I'm not saying "people like you" are bad or anything just..brainwashed.But you seem like a happy fellow,and it could be a good thing being brainwashed,I don't know..and I don't want to find out.But not knowing could be a good thing because you won't expect nothing..I don't think so,but hey,everyone is entitled to their own opinion..right?

Originally posted by stygmartyrZA
reply to post by Monkeygod333

 

Sorry unrelated.

Hierdie kak is poes woes.

Jy kon maar net gese het, dat jy van suid afrika is.

Fok ek lag te lekker.

Anywho, Gaga went all bonkers after her midnight rituals. PR PR PR stunt and leading her followers into the abyss

She lost her marbles thats a fact

Originally posted by GodIsPissed

And I'm not saying "people like you" are bad or anything just..brainwashed.

I don't know..and I don't want to find out

Those two things stuck out the most to me in your last post.

You dismiss me as being brainwashed because I see things differently

you then admit you aren't even bothering to understand what I am saying.

I don't see much more to this conversation considering its a one way street...your way or no way, and anything outside of your mindset is invalid.

Not that it matters really, your just some dude on the net, I am just some dude on the net, but I would venture to say, don't fool yourself into thinking your "awake" or anything

reflect on those two statements you made...read them over and over, then ask yourself...are you truely aware whats going on if you stand on a principle of no opposing thinking will enter into your mind?

Just because you are doing the (popular) rage against the machine, and pointing your finger at pop culture as a destroyer of the west (again, a common, popular thing to do tracing back from when society first began) does not mean you are somehow above it or even remotely "right". it just means your a typical person in society giving the same arguments time and time again, generation after generation.

You don't know...and you don't want to know..because anyone that would dare think differently must be brainwashed, no matter what argument is put forward.

deny ignorance...lol

reply to post by SaturnFX


You could be right..I don't think so,but you do.And I think I'm right,it's just our opinion.Just like your last post.Everything you said makes sense.The only thing is,I think I'm right and I think I can prove it,and I have.Not that I need to though because the Illuminati already does a good job if you know what to look for.If you don't know the "signs" then you won't see it unless someone shows you.But I can't show someone something they don't want to look at.

And yeah maybe you're right,it is the same old argument.But isn't that what we're here for?Not to argue but to express opinions?To figure it out?And I believe I bring new evidence to that old argument!

But yeah..it's probably futile for us to..um..express our opinions,seeing how we both are going to believe what we want anyway..peace!

Lady Ca Ca needs a new gimmick though..the devil worshiping isn't working for her.And what's with the bones..ugh!

reply to post by esqONE


Pre-Gaga is kinda hot hehe

Well it was a good argument anyhow, was fun.

At least we both can agree that Justin Beiber is probably the anti-christ

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Why are you sticking up for the devil worshipers?

How can you justify what she's doing?

As if her showing up in a dripping, stinking meat dress wasn't convincing enough?