Muslims VS Jews. Some interesting facts

reply to post by Haydn_17


This is the same racist guys who claims white people owns England.

There is no such thing as Al-Qaeda, prove me wrong, tell us who came with the label Al-Qaeda, and tell us how many members they have.

reply to post by ender_shadow


Jews only want to take credit for the people who get awards, and say how superior their culture is, but when it comes to the Blankfein's, Abramoff's, the Bernanke's the Madoff's and thousands more. For some reason you don't see them taking credit for those.

Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
reply to post by mayabong

 

A tiny tiny % of ultra orthodox may think that way, big deal! - but Islamic supremicism is absolutely mainstream in Islam - something like 50% islamic literature deals with the subject of Kaffirs - how the life of an unbeliever is worth nothing.


ooooooh kay. now i know that you're just on here trolling, man. it's okay for the jews to do it, but not for the muslims. where are your stats, facts, evidence? what is the exact precent of jews who think they're better than gentiles? and what's the exact % of "Islamic literature" about kaffirs? does "Islamic literature" include anything every written by any muslim? which blogspot site did you get that from?

reply to post by buddha

that American is becoming the new hated race! Jews are just a very old race

Americans or Jews are not a race. American is a member of a country, a Jew is a member of a religion. A race is neither of those things.

Just thought I would point that out to you.

Originally posted by The Sword
I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to sign up here just to post such nonsense.

If you're inferring that Judaism is superior to Islam, then you should chose to open your mind a little one of these days. All of the "Big 3" religions are chock full of extremists, even your beloved Judaism.

You totally missed the point.

More ignorant vomit being spouted here.

I have studied both of these religions (with the intention of following one or the other) and have to disagree with the OP.

The OP has merely spouted mainstream media facts and figures, some baseless lies and evidence that has not been corroborated properly (as proven by other members of ATS).

Islam has also contributed greatly to civilisation - I am talking about the real Islam, not the engineered piece of fanaticism we see at the moment. There were some great scholars of our time, that brought a new enlightened way of thinking.

The same for Judaism, some great thinkers of our times however people should not mix Judaism with "Israelism" - one is about the religion from god, the other is about the imperial narcissistic whims of a group of people who want to express their vile characteristics on the world.

The current problems of the world lay squarely with one group of people, the banking elite (who unfortunately happen to be mostly Jewish).

So please don't put Islam and those fanatics in the same pot (they stop being Muslims the moment they make intentions to harm someone), the same way you wouldn't label Jews with the same tarred brush that is quite rightly being applied to the Israelis.

Originally posted by ZforZionism

The OP is a racist, the post is a racist one and only intended to incite hatred based on lies and falsehood - just like the illegal rogue state of Israel.

Deep down, everyone just wants an excuse to take it out on the black/brown man - that's the fact.

LOL!!! Waaaaa....cry me a river you pansy! What a baby, grow up, the world isn't out to "get" you fool.

Everyone knows the world is out to get the Jews though. Look at history...any history, anywhere...ever. Its the same thing. Jews get powerful, the world tries to kill them. God protects them, the world continues to kill them.

Jews are the only culture, ethnic group, or race of people on the planet where this has happened consistently for 4500 years.

Grow up, wake, or shut up!

Obama has one and also Henry kissinger has one, dont know why they would get one,what have they ever done for humanity,the whole noble peace price has been proven to be agenda driven.

How do you know if someone realy deserved one to begin with ?

Making jews out to be more acomplished than muslims is suspicous to say the least,so whats this thread about realy

reply to post by TXRabbit


But wouldn't that show whomever is the better athlete is the better warrior -anti peace maker-anti civilization builder.

Originally posted by gravitational

Originally posted by D377MC
First, nobody killed 6,000,000 jews. For a thread with the word 'facts' in it's title we are off to a rough start.

True, the number is probably much higher, up to 7.5 million Jews.
The number 6 million came from the mouth of the “Architect” himself – Adolf Eichmann, but he also said he believes the number is higher.

You are woefully misinformed, something that is to be expected when fed and bred on propaganda. Lets have a look at where the figure of 6 million comes from.

An analysis of the proceedings of the Nuremberg Tribunal tells us that the figure of six million Jewish victims was based neither on statistical evidence from census data nor on the results of an investigation into the material evidence connected to the crimes, but merely on hear-say statements given by two German SS-bureaucrats. One of these statements, given by Wilhelm Höttl was produced only in writing; the other, coming from Dieter Wisliceny was given by the witness in court. However, Wisliceny was never cross-examined.
Both witnesses assert to have heard the figure of six million mentioned by Adolf Eichmann, but the latter denied this during his own trial at Jerusalem in 1961..

That is known as hearsay... and what's more was not confirmed by the actual source.

Both Höttl and Wisliceny were originally held in the defendants’ wing of the Nuremberg prison because of their involvement in the mass deportation of Jews to Auschwitz. Their statements, however, allowed them to be moved to the witnesses’ wing – a life-saving switch in many cases. Whereas Wisliceny and Eichmann were later tried and hanged, Höttl was never prosecuted, even though he had been just as active in those deportations. It seems obvious that he was promised leniency for his services, that is to say, for his incriminating testimony, and that the promise was eventually kept.

Now, what is curious is that some Zionist leaders were able, in June 1945, immediately after the cessation of hostilities in Europe, to come up in Washington with a precise figure for the Jewish victims – 6 million, of course – even though it was plainly impossible to do any kind of census work in the chaotic conditions prevailing in Europe at that time.

Historian Joachim Hoffmann who had worked for decades in the German Federal Research Office for Military History, noticed that Ilya Ehrenburg, the chief atrocity specialist of the Soviets, had published the figure of six million in the Soviet foreign language press as early as December 1944, more than four months before the war came to an end. In May 1944, Zionist activist Rabbi Dov Weissmandel stated that up to that month six million Jews of Europe and Russia had been annihilated. A look into the pages of the New York Times shows us that this was far from being an isolated case, as is borne out by a few quotations:

December 13, 1942, p. 21:
“[…] ‘Authenticated reports point to 2,000,000 Jews who have already been
slain by all manner of satanic barbarism, and plans for the total extermination
of all Jews upon whom the Nazis can lay their hands. The slaughter of a
third of the Jewish population in Hitler‘s domain [3×2,000,000=6,000,000]
and the threatened slaughter of all is a holocaust without parallel.’”

December 20, 1942, p. 23:
“What is happening to the 5,000,000 Jews of German-held Europe, all of
whom face extermination […].

Early in December 1942 the State Department in Washington gave some
figures showing that the number of Jewish victims deported and perished
since 1939 in Axis-controlled Europe now reached the appalling figure of
2,000,000 and that 5,000,000 were in danger of extermination.”

March 2, 1943, pp. 1, 4:
[…Rabbi Hertz said] to secure even the freedom to live for 6,000,000 of
their Jewish fellow men by readiness to rescue those who might still escape
Nazi torture and butchery. […]”

March 10, 1943, p. 12:
“[…] 2,000,000 Jews killed in Europe. […] The four million left to kill are
being killed, according to plan.” (2+4=6 million)

April 20, 1943, p. 11:
“Two million Jews have been wiped out […] five million more are in immediate
danger of execution […].” (2+5=7 million)

(...continued)

There is also an interesting quotation dating from the year 1936. Chaim Weizmann, then President of the Zionist world organization, appeared before the Commission and asserted that 6 million Jews were living in Europe as if in a prison and were regarded as undesirable.

And it gets a lot better....

From about 1915 onwards, various American newspapers,especially the New York Times, reported that the Jews in central and eastern Europe in particular were suffering under the conditions brought about by the war.
Between 1919 and 1927 there were, in the U.S., massive campaigns organized by Jewish circles to collect money claiming that five or six million Jews in central and eastern Europe were near death.

New York Times, Dec. 4, 1926: “five million starving people […] half the
Jews of the world, smitten by pestilence and famine […].”

New York Times, April 21, 1926: “This is the cry that comes from the Jews
of Europe […] a whole people is dying […] millions of Jews are trapped in
Europe […].”

New York Times, Jan. 9, 1922, p. 19: “unspeakable horrors and infinite
crimes perpetrated against the Jewish people. Dr. Hertz declared that
1,000,000 human beings had been butchered and that for three years
3,000,000 persons in the Ukraine had been made ‘to pass through the
horrors of hell’ […].”

That by the way is the same Mr. Hertz you referred to a while ago who claimed on March 2, 1943, in the same newspaper that six million members of the Jewish people were on the verge of being slaughtered by the Nazis and had to be saved.

Lets move on....

New York Times, May 7, 1920: “[…] Jewish war sufferers in Central and
Eastern Europe, where six millions face horrifying conditions of famine, disease and death […].”

New York Times, May 5, 1920, p. 9: “To save six million men and women in Eastern Europe form extermination by hunger and disease.”

New York Times, May 5, 1920, p. 19: “Six million starving, fever-stricken
sufferers in war-torn Europe appeal to us […]”

New York Times, May 3, 1920, p. 11: “Your help is needed to save the lives
of six million people in Eastern and Central Europe.”

New York Times, May 3, 1920, p. 12: “In Russia and the neighboring countries the Jews have been subject to a particularly malignant persecution[…]. It is estimated that more than five millions are actually starving or on the verge of starvation, and a virulent typhus epidemic is raging among them and is already spreading among neighboring populations.”

New York Times, May 2, 1920, p. 1: “Six million human beings, without
food, shelter, clothing or medical treatment.”

New York Times, May 1, 1920, p. 8: “But the lives of 6,000,000 human beings wait upon the answer.”

New York Times, Apr. 21, 1920, p. 8: “In Europe there are today more than 5,000,000 Jews who are starving or on the verge of starvation, and many
are in the grip of a virulent typhus epidemic.”

New York Times, Dec. 3, 1919, p. 19: “nothing on earth except a miracle
can prevent the death by freezing and starvation of from 5,000,000 to
10,000,000 people in Europe and the Middle East this winter […] atrocious
Jewish massacre.”

New York Times, Dec. 3, 1919, p. 24: “Five Million Face Famine in Poland
[…] The war has left 5,000,000 destitute and stricken Jews in Eastern
Europe.”

New York Times, Nov. 12, 1919, p. 7: “tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation and disease about 6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population of the earth […] a million children and […] five million parents and elders.”

The American Hebrew, Oct. 31, 1919, pp. 582f.: “From across the sea, six
million men and women call to us for help […] six million human beings.
[…] Six million men and women are dying […] in the threatened holocaust
of human life […] six million famished men and women. Six million men and women are dying […]”

New York Times, Oct. 26, 1919, p. 1: “4,000,000 Starving Jews of Eastern
Europe.”

(continued)

New York Times, Sept. 29, 1919, p. 7: “tragically unbelievable poverty,
starvation and disease about 6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population
of the earth.”

New York Times, Aug. 10, 1917: “Germans Let Jews Die. Women and Children
in Warsaw Starving to Death […] Jewish mothers, mothers of mercy,
feel happy to see their nursing babies die; at least they are through with their suffering.”

New York Times, Jan. 14, 1915, p. 3: “In the world today there are about
13,000,000 Jews, of whom more than 6,000,000 are in the heart of the war
zone; Jews whose lives are at stake and who today are subjected to every
manner of suffering and sorrow […].”

In 1900, Rabbi Stephen Wise made the following statement before Jewish
welfare organizations in the USA: “there are 6,000,000 living, bleeding,
suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.”

It would seem that we are dealing with a constant in Jewish suffering, the figure of 6 million. There is a specific reason for that: an ancient Jewish prophecy, promising the Jews the return to the Promised Land after the loss of six million of their people. This would seem to indicate that Jewish sufferings were useful to various Jewish leaders as an argument to bring about that very aim – the return to the Promised Land.

We must not forget that Palestine had been promised to the Zionists in the Balfour Declaration by England during the First World War. That was, no doubt, a major reason for the holocaust propaganda during and after the First World War.

But we are not over quite yet, as the outrageous claims continue:

Take the front cover announcement of volume 12, number 1 (spring 1991), of Response, a periodical published by the Jewish Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles and distributed in 381,065 copies:

“GERMANS PRODUCE ZYKLON B IN IRAQ (Iraq’s German-made gas chamber)”

“Shocking Revelation: German Firms Produce Zyklon B in Iraq
True to their legacy of their Nazi-era predecessors, the German business
community has sought to absolve itself of its share of blame in the current
Middle East disaster. ‘We did not knowingly supply Iraq with weapons of
mass destructions – we violated no law – we were just filling orders…’ […]
Even more ominous is the report that Iraq has developed a new potent gas
which actually contains Zyklon B. […] this gas, and the nerve gas, Tabun,
were tested on Iranian POWs in gas chambers specially designed for the
Iraqis by the German company […] (see cover photo of gas chamber prototype). German Gas Chamber: Nightmare Revisited.”

Seems like we have 6,000,000 victims and gas chambers all over the place. It would seem difficult to be more creative and yet, you suggest 7,500,000 and bullets as an alternative. Care to support that or shall we stay within official propaganda and your comfort levels?

Originally posted by CountDrac

I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz .. We killed six million Jews

hmmm i stopped reading there.....
second line

Here is your religion of peace...just do not see the jewish faithful acting like this.

www.snopes.com...


youtu.be...

reply to post by KJV1611


Aren't you the guy who fancies he knows the bible and even started a thread wherein Zionist propaganda was presented as truth?

How is it then that you are making fun of another poster and calling him a fool because you disagree with him? Did you miss this verse maybe:

Matthew 5:22 (King James Version)

22But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Fly your true colors for all to see: you are a Zionist apologist whose grasp of biblical concepts and principles is on par with his manners: you have none.

dude thats just ridiculous you make it sound like all muslim people are like that
and thats if there the ones who are really planning all those attacks in the first place

Originally posted by mayabong
reply to post by ender_shadow

 

Jews only want to take credit for the people who get awards, and say how superior their culture is, but when it comes to the Blankfein's, Abramoff's, the Bernanke's the Madoff's and thousands more. For some reason you don't see them taking credit for those.

True, they don't really like to mention people like Genrikh Yagoda, the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, or Lazar Kaganovich, or Lavrentija Berija, or Ilya Ehrenburg, or Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel.

It is not difficult to see why really. Such wonderful, special, chosen individuals...

reply to post by Haydn_17

Where are the muslims protesting about Al Queda? Or on 9/11 or 7/7? They were celebrating in Pakistan, thats where the "peaceful" muslims were

That is an illogical argument. It shows ignorance, shallowness, delusion...should I go on? Go read more, inform yourself, think for yourself.

They were celebrating in Pakistan? They? The "Muslims"? So would you say that "Christians" celebrate the death of American soldiers because some loony "pastor" claims he is "Christian"? And should the rest of the world for that matter, see the actions of this "pastor" as the actions of "Christians" or lunatics? Do you see how illogical you form your opinion? How biased you are? You are only HELPING extremists by taking the opposite end of the spectrum, I hope you understand this.

reply to post by KJV1611

Jews are the only culture, ethnic group, or race of people on the planet where this has happened consistently for 4500 years.

Grow up, wake, or shut up!

The Kurds don't exist to you racists huh? How about you, mr. Ignorant, shut up? Yeah?

reply to post by Missing Blue Sky

Here is your religion of peace...just do not see the jewish faithful acting like this.

Unless you can point me to one religion of peace, I suggest you quit using it as an argument. But that won't be possible now will it? What with all the copy and pasting you need to do.

Most muslims tolerate extremism and look the other way when it happens, i havnt seen the worldwide anti extremism jihad against extremists and ive never seen this majority of moderates the pc-do-gooder crowd seem to bleet on about ? where are the moderates

Originally posted by P3ACE0WAR
reply to post by Haydn_17

 

This is the same racist guys who claims white people owns England.

There is no such thing as Al-Qaeda, prove me wrong, tell us who came with the label Al-Qaeda, and tell us how many members they have.

Id be careful with the Racist thing............it seems you are all too willing to use that term........this from your thread earlier when i pointed out that Muslims arent a race , they are a religion and that would mean the poster just had a prejudice...........you said in response......and I quote........

The label racist is more effective, you and I both know that. Prejudice, most don't even know what that means, I would rather stick to racist.

Easy with the race trolling