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Hamas' Powerful New Weapon Alters Strategic Calculations Along the Gaza Strip

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posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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Hey Proto, I'm in a good mood today, and feel like making someone happy:


Glad to hear about the former, are you sure you actually have any experience at the latter?




Yes, this is without a doubt a false flag by Hamas who are Mossad agents.


This is a possibility that Mossad Agents infiltrating Hamas carried out the attack however the investigation in it's early stages has not ruled out any suspects or options.

Be patient we are waterboarding everyone we can behind the scenes to get to the bottom of this, so far this has only been women wearing tight leather and latex, who actually aren't sure where Israel is on the Globe but in the name of thoroughness all possible suspects are being 'interogated'.




We know that for certain because the Jews and the Zionists have a long tradition


It would be a mistake to confuse Jews with Zionists as many Jews despise the Zionists, and many non-Jews are Zionists.




of conspiracy and fAlsE fLaG opperations, starting with Jesus


Propaganda manufactured by Rome




UsS lIBerTY


President Johnson and the Israeli Prime Minister




LavoN Afair


Mossad




JFK


CIA, Bush Family




MLK


CIA




the Beatles


Tavistok Institute




nIne eLeven


Bush Family, Bin Laden Family, Rothschild Family, CIA, Mossad




lest we forget their grand conspiracy to exterminate 2/3 of their own


Lord Rothschild, Winston Churchill, Adolf Hitler, Rockefeller Family

Try to keep it all straight I know it's a daunting task, what after that exhaustive study of averages based on one tank picture hit by an RPG you have done.

I would say take a little vacation but since you failed at your attempt to make Proto happy, crucifixtion along the Apian Way has been proscribed.

Thanks.




posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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No guided missiles, full article related to the lie:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And it is obvious that once again it was Israel who started the whole thing, killing Palestinians and claiming they were planning to take hostages (as if anyone is willing to believe their lies anymore).

It is over, Zionists have been exposed as liars one too many times.
edit on 14-4-2011 by P3ACE0WAR because: typo



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 09:04 AM
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Those were not "aid" boots, those were a direct confrontation by Islamist militants to illicit a response from Israel, honestly i thought that 9 dead was pretty low for the kind of trash that was on the ship, Hopefully the IDF just sinks the next batch coming to Gaza.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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Deny Ignorance, with out the aggression from the Palestinains there would be no deaths at all, It all starts with the Palestinains deciding that force or terrorism is a way to get Israel to ceed to their demands. Aggression only gets aggression in return and as long as the Palestinians use aggresson they will only find that in return. Aggression is defined as launching rockets and mortors indiscriminately at civilian targets on a daily basis, by the way that is considered by the world boby as a war crime. Israel only hits back when they have had enough of the Gaza attacks. Israel has only attacked in retalitory strikes, If you are too ignorant to understand what retaliation is then you should not be on here. This reply is retaliation to your ignorance.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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You can't aim mortars or rockets (you can't choose a target), which is exactly why Israel lied about the anti-Tank missile, then again, Israel lies about a lot of things and a lot of people believe it as if it is the word of GOD (OT).

In the other hand Drones, guided missiles, Jets etc have almost perfect precision, and yet Israel manages to intentionally attack ambulances, which are clearly marked as ambulances, and attack hospitals...

Regarding who started it first, just read the OP, Israel killed Palestinian resistance fighters intentionally, then claimed they were planning something. Israel attacked first.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 09:22 AM
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This reply is retaliation to your ignorance.


And yet you quoted not one source for your biased little rant..

Welcome to ATS where little rants mean nothing.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 09:24 AM
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you have it wrong, those ambulances and aid trucks where hit by accident, only Palestinians can target accurately to cause so much damage.
The Israelis with all there superior fire power and technology are still trying to get rid of those bugs which cause the projectiles to stray and accidently hit civilians



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by infolurker

Fight back? Against a School BUS!

So, laser guided .... I assume they were AIMING for the school bus. What Pieces of Shlt they are.

And you wonder why there is such little sympathy for these POS animals.



It wasn't even an anti-Tank missile, how can it be laser guided? It seems everyone believes Israel like the gospel. The lie exposed:
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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And how about the israeli family that were murdered in their sleep?

Hamas can take all the credit they want but is their any evidence to prove Hamas did it?


edit on 14-4-2011 by forklift because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by tuttrup
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


Those were not "aid" boots, those were a direct confrontation by Islamist militants to illicit a response from Israel, honestly i thought that 9 dead was pretty low for the kind of trash that was on the ship, Hopefully the IDF just sinks the next batch coming to Gaza.


Yeah I know these are not the droids that you are looking for.

The reality is that yes they were aide ships, the Israelis unloaded and cataloged the cargo and you can bet your bottom dollar if there were any real munitions or war supplies on those boats we would still be hearing about it today.

Just another Israeli War Crime added to a long list, with those trying to excuse it attempting to use Jedi Mind Tricks to tell people what they saw and see isn't really what they saw and see.

The smart move would be admitting mistakes, gives a person credibility.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by tuttrup
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


Those were not "aid" boots, those were a direct confrontation by Islamist militants to illicit a response from Israel, honestly i thought that 9 dead was pretty low for the kind of trash that was on the ship, Hopefully the IDF just sinks the next batch coming to Gaza.


So much more too it than that as well.

Reuters was exposed as the anti-Israeli rag it is, when they ran their blatant, "lets nail Israel to the wall" article that nicely cropped photos showing "peace activists" armed with knives and clubs standing over bleeding Israeli commandos. You attack men armed with smgs with knives you should expect the consequences.

There was nothing peaceful about that flottila, it was a direct provocation and Turkey has used it as an excuse to move away from their military ties with Israel.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Yeah because never in history have sea fairing men had knives to cut ropes or weapons against pirates on the high seas.

Aide workers chew their way through ropes on boats because they detest knives according to the "Real Aide Workers Guide Book" published by the J-Post.

Aide workers likewise put their faith in God when out on the high seas and fear no Pirates and neither do the Captains of the very expensive multi-million dollar boats that they charter.

This according to the "Genuine Aide Workers Guide" published by the Knessett.

Aide workers likewise enjoy being beaten and attacked in the middle of the night and love to submit for the thrill of helping the attackers because after all if they aren't aiding their own attackers how could they be aiding, or aide workers.

This according to "Don't be Fooled a look at real Aide Workers" published by Benjamin Nut and Yahoo.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 02:48 PM
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Don't forget the kitchen. Why would you need knives in the galley?
And on topic, isn't the engine in the back of the bus right where is was allegedly hit by an anti-tank weapon? If so, that destroys the claim that the alleged anti-tank missile wasn't designed to hit a "soft target" and so wouldn't explode. Pretty sure that an engine block is pretty hard, especially a heavy duty diesel in a tour bus.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:24 PM
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Yeah, because all aid workers and sea-farers stand overtop of bloodied, injured Israeli troops brandishing said knives. Obviously they were using these knives to cut ropes at that moment. *rolls eyes*

If you see a team of heavily armed troops coming at you, you might not wanna brandish a knife at them. Common sense. Im sure you will say they were heroic, but i say they obviously have a wish to be made martyrs of.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:26 PM
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How should they have acted if those heavily armed troops are coming at them in international waters?
Personally, I believe they should treat them as pirates and act accordingly, because that's exactly what they were.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Your opinion is noted, but i was responding to Protos rediculous statement that they must have been "cutting rope" or some such nonesense when Rueters caught a "peace activist" holding a knife standing over a bloodied, assaulted troop.

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posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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Well, he never implied they were cutting rope when being attacked. He was talking about how it's rediculous to claim the aid workers didn't have peaceful intentions because the IDF found "weapons" on board. Proto was just pointing out that it's rediculous to think that a vessel wouldn't have knives on board because they are tools.
The workers were being attacked in international waters, at night. They grabbed what ever they could find to defend themselves against an act of piracy.
What does any of this have to do with the topic of this thread?



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by nightbringr
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Yeah, because all aid workers and sea-farers stand overtop of bloodied, injured Israeli troops brandishing said knives. Obviously they were using these knives to cut ropes at that moment. *rolls eyes*

If you see a team of heavily armed troops coming at you, you might not wanna brandish a knife at them. Common sense. Im sure you will say they were heroic, but i say they obviously have a wish to be made martyrs of.


Actually I recall the picture in question and it was the Israelis Knife that they had confiscated and were simply holding, while they were trying to pull him up and help him to his feat after being disarmed.

Since the Israeli Soldier was not part of their crew, and they boarded the craft illegally in International Waters and were attempting to pirate it, I really wonder what it is you would have preferred the crew and passengers of the ship to have done.

Roll over for the armed might of a rogue nation conducting piracy on the high seas in International waters.

Typical Israeli nonsense, the victims are always to blame not the vitcimizers.

Funny you would be so angry that intelligent people wouldn't feel that way.

You guys pretty much have a war going on on intelligent people, seems to threaten your thuggish ways I guess.

Go figure.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by PplVSNWO
Well, he never implied they were cutting rope when being attacked. He was talking about how it's rediculous to claim the aid workers didn't have peaceful intentions because the IDF found "weapons" on board. Proto was just pointing out that it's rediculous to think that a vessel wouldn't have knives on board because they are tools.
The workers were being attacked in international waters, at night. They grabbed what ever they could find to defend themselves against an act of piracy.
What does any of this have to do with the topic of this thread?


They didnt FIND weapons, Reuters took several pictures of a "peace activist" standing above an bloodied, injured Israeli soldier holding a knife. This is quite different from finding a few odd knives on board, wouldnt you say?

Reuters was found guilty of cropping the knives out of the pictures to make the Israelis look worse, and have since admitted blame.



posted on Apr, 14 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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Then you remember wrong.

Here is a refresher:

blogs.reuters.com...

It is very obviously not a military issue knife, and as you can plainly see, the commando is badly injured and bleeding.

Shameful coverup from a shameful news source.



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