Who would vote for Trump?

I would vote for Trump. It sounds like he is eager to help USA's economy out by actually bringing manufacturing jobs back to the states... (who really knows though).

That is why we need a instant impeach system and citizens need to be able to vote on every single little law that is out there (by the people for the people?)...(lol)

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I think he would make himself a dictator!! Maybe Trump is doing what he is doing so that Obama will be re-elected. It might all be reverse psychology.

Trump has my vote hands down. Upon seeing his interview with Piers Morgan I was convinced. What we need in office is a business man to bring this country back up onto it's feet. He's the right man for the job at this point. His 25% tax increase on all goods coming out of China is both brilliant and dangerous. There may be a hill of inflation right off the bat, however it would make American made products and services cheaper, thus bringing jobs back home.

I see MSM hounding Trump with irrelevant things like they do to everyone that isn't in their pocket. The fact that MSM pushes the "Birther Issue" every time they speak with Trump shows they are only interested in demonizing or defaming the man before elections.

A serious note to take into mind is the fact that this isn't the first time Trump has announced presidential candidacy. Weather or not this is a ploy for publicity is another thing. In the long run(pardon the pun) Trump would have my vote if he seriously ran. Whether he is the Anti-Christ or not (Insert eye-roll here) the man knows his business and is one of the biggest business sharks out there today. What we need in office is a business man that can handle a budget, not a bunch of clowns whom try to be good at talking deception.

Originally posted by Sinnthia
It would help if you read. I said I never mocked anyone AS A CANDIDATE based on looks. Your reasons for not voting for Romney, Palin, etc were...

You would make a good candidate for Sigmund Freud, your shifting culpability from a mop to Trump's hair. What is even more extraordinaire is it's difficult for you to comprehend what I posted...

I never gave any "reasons for not voting for Romney, Palin, etc." in that post. www.abovetopsecret.com...

"It would help if you read."
It was based on how they appear and that Obama could win by presentation alone, furthermore that Trump projects a strong a sense of control, thus he could possibly defeat Obama.

Maybe you have a very highly developed sense of denial on Romney's looks.
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Originally posted by Sinnthia
I still suggest that your post just seems really jouvenile and in its entirety and in full context sounds like the kind of thing I would expect to hear from anyone too young to vote.

It's a bit more juvenile to admitting that one watches Jersey Shore, it's not helping yourself when you come out and say that Kim Kardashian is more influential than Trump... I would suggest that you not measure up anyone until you take a good look at yourself and your social influences. It's not that I care about your psychic growth and maturity, it's those TV shows that can influence your behavior in many ways, AND it's showing through your text.

Originally posted by Sinnthia
Obsessed? Because I mentioned it once? I guess obsession would be something like mentioning Jersey Shore in every single post?

Your obsessed over a single post that wasn't even directed at you! www.abovetopsecret.com...

You see what's going on here... Again, Trash TV will lock on pointless,wrongheaded arguments until they start pulling teeth and hair out. Your fixation is no different than that, thus it construes your line of thinking.

Originally posted by Sinnthia
I was not commenting on whether or not people vote based on looks. I was specifically referring to the level of discourse represented in your reasoning for not voting for the following.

You have been commenting on whether or not people vote based on looks!

I never gave any "reasons for not voting for Romney, Palin, etc." in that post. www.abovetopsecret.com...
And you talk about discourse lol....

The fact is people will vote on looks, most of [this www.abovetopsecret.com...] post is based on it.

Your just having a psychological block on a taboo word.
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Originally posted by Sinnthia
No need to clarify things I have not suggested are not true.

Did you forget that you equate maturity and credibility with looks, you even posted some pictures.
I'm sure you'll refuse to acknowledge that too.

Originally posted by Sinnthia
No, he cannot because he does not.

Yes he can, even YOU said he had assets to liquidate!
Now your saying Trump doesn't own any assets lol.... make up your mind!
If Trump didn't own any assets he wouldn't have any net worth? His monetary value is beyond any amounts owed! You can't be for real lol....

Originally posted by Sinnthia
That makes no sense at all. Who is voting for him because I mentioned his name on ATS?

Every time you text the name Trump, it equals more votes.

Trump is a name, a brand, a symbol and graphic identity that could enable voters to effectively identify with the Don.

When people see the name Trump, they see:
- Sincerity
- Excitement
- Sophistication
- Ruggedness

When we see names like Romney, Huckabee etc, we see political turds. People are tired of these type of candidates.

If you Google Romney or Huckabee you will see Donald Trump's name pop up, his name steals the show, thus he could steal the votes!

The fact is Trump is more engaging and more exciting than the other candidates, his name alone is win-win.

Name recognition
en.wikipedia.org...

Name recognition is a concept used in politics to describe the number of people who are aware of a politician. It is considered an important factor in elections, as candidates with low name recognition are unlikely to receive votes from people who only casually follow politics.

Originally posted by Sinnthia
I do not understand how you can claim that viewers are also voters based on nothing and in the face of a viewer telling you that will not be happening here.

I know it's hard for you to comprehend the facts that would influence a reasonable viewer under certain circumstances in making an voting decision. The ratio of probable votes for Trump out weighs your thoughts. There is definitive proof viewers would vote for him, all that information has been established here. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Just Do the Math minus you. There will be people who will vote against their own interests, you might fit into that category, should it be Trump vs. Obama.

Trump On
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A businessman in government? do we really need another leech?

The man's dangerous. He wants to run America like a business. A businessman like him has no place running the government. He only knows profit. His ethics are all mixed up.
That Piers Morgan interview at the beginning made him seem insightful, but as it went along, he said progressively creepier and creepier things. The whole "birther" thing just tops it off though. The guy is a publicity whore and/or out of his mind.

Luckily I am not in the US so many of you probably think my view does not count.

Whilst I agree with some that Trump is an astute businessman and could bring beneficial ideas to save your economy, I think he is also a megalomaniac and dangerous.

He will have all of you at war again with comments such as "We'll just go in and take the oil from Libya" (or words to that effect) Would America stand for that?

he should stick to things he knows best and shut his stupid big mouth.


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I'm kind of surprised this thread, which is clearly nothing more than an advertisement for Trump and his television show, isn't in Skunk Works.

Obviously Trump is indeed a savvy businessman- H figured out how to get all kinds of free publicity by tapping in to the Birther craze.

Trump has filed for bankruptcy a number of times, how is he a great businessman? And even if you want to argue that he is (history says otherwise), how is that necessarily a good thing as POTUS? A lot of businessmen only care about the bottomline (profits) and not the average worker. NO THANKS. Are people forgetting what's gotten this country into trouble, it isn't the average worker, that's for sure.

I just don't see how anyone can take Trump seriously.

Originally posted by imitator
You would make a good candidate for Sigmund Freud, your shifting culpability from a mop to Trump's hair. What is even more extraordinaire is it's difficult for you to comprehend what I posted...

I never gave any "reasons for not voting for Romney, Palin, etc." in that post. www.abovetopsecret.com...

"It would help if you read."
It was based on how they appear and that Obama could win by presentation alone, furthermore that Trump projects a strong a sense of control, thus he could possibly defeat Obama.

I am not sure you understand much about Freud or the election process. Obama cannot win without votes so...I am not sure how you remove votes from the equation but fine.

Maybe you have a very highly developed sense of denial on Romney's looks.

A South Park clip and here I thought you seemed immature in your responses. I take that back now.

It's a bit more juvenile to admitting that one watches Jersey Shore,

Holy crap are you an obsessive one trick pony. After posting a South Park clip, you really need to get off it. Do you honestly believe you are having an intelligent conversation about what a good candidate Trump would be by mentioning that show for no reason other than to pretend it somehow defines me as a person in every post?

it's not helping yourself when you come out and say that Kim Kardashian is more influential than Trump...

Not sure I ever said any such thing but I did say she has money and fans, and a reality show JUST LIKE TRUMP.

I would suggest that you not measure up anyone until you take a good look at yourself and your social influences. It's not that I care about your psychic growth and maturity, it's those TV shows that can influence your behavior in many ways, AND it's showing through your text.

You posted a South Park clip and you know about two whole shows I watch. You really need to try and address what I post. You have mentioned Jersey Shore in every post for no reason. It kind of makes it look like you cannot defend Trump of have an honest discussion about the topic if you need to keep turning back to that in order to pretend it means something more than it does. And coming from a South Park fan, it is pretty funny.

Your obsessed over a single post that wasn't even directed at you! www.abovetopsecret.com...

You see what's going on here... Again, Trash TV will lock on pointless,wrongheaded arguments until they start pulling teeth and hair out. Your fixation is no different than that, thus it construes your line of thinking.

Replying is the same as prattling on and on and on and on? Apparently you forgot one of the two trashy shows I admit to watching is Trumps. I guess I am not sure what your point is when you disparage your hero in such a way. I guess all you can talk about is television?

You have been commenting on whether or not people vote based on looks!

I never gave any "reasons for not voting for Romney, Palin, etc." in that post. www.abovetopsecret.com...
And you talk about discourse lol....

The fact is people will vote on looks, most of [this www.abovetopsecret.com...] post is based on it.

Your just having a psychological block on a taboo word.
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It really seems like you are unable to follow from one thought to the next. You kind of just reinforced what I said. Thank you.

Did you forget that you equate maturity and credibility with looks, you even posted some pictures.
I'm sure you'll refuse to acknowledge that too.

Apparently so. Quote me.

Yes he can, even YOU said he had assets to liquidate!
Now your saying Trump doesn't own any assets lol.... make up your mind!
If Trump didn't own any assets he wouldn't have any net worth? His monetary value is beyond any amounts owed! You can't be for real lol....

You are very confused. I never said he had NO assets that can be liquidated. I just said he has many that he CAN NOT. You do not seem to understand "NET WORTH." His Net worth includes his naming rights. He cannot sell his Casino but he counts the ownership of his name as his net worth. He is contractually obligated. He cannot remove his name and he cannot sell the building, because he does not own it. All he can do is collect money for his name. If he knew how to run a business, he would still own the building too.

Plus, he just makes it up.

"My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feeling," he told lawyers in the December 2007 deposition.

Trump on Trump

In the deposition, Mr. Trump said that his 2007 estimate of his net worth -- over $4 billion -- is "a very conservative number, in my opinion." He also said $6 billion is a good number, counting his brand value. (In the interview Sunday, he said he was worth $5 billion, not counting brand value.)

Sure does move around alot. I suggest you look up "NET worth" and "Brand value" before moving on.

The deposition reveals he told his bankers and New Jersey casino authorities in 2004 and 2005 that he was worth approximately $3.6 billion. In 2005, Deutsche Bank evaluated his net worth as part of underwriting a $640 million construction loan it made to Mr. Trump's Chicago condo and hotel project. The bank said his worth was $788 million, according to information presented by the author's lawyers present during Mr. Trump's deposition.

But Trump told you he has more money and you believe Trump because it's not like he is prone to exaggerate or admit it, huh?

Mr. Trump was asked whether he has ever exaggerated in statements about his properties. "I think everybody does," he said in the deposition. "Who wouldn't?"

He cannot even figure out if he owns buildings he has a pretty large steak in.

But Mr. Trump had a 30% limited-partnership interest in the project, according to legal documents. A group of Hong Kong investors were the owners. Asked about this during the deposition, Mr. Trump explained that, in his eyes, he owned half because he gets paid fees for managing the buildings and because he didn't have to put up cash in the deal. "In my own mind I've always felt that," he said. "That 30% is equated to 50%," he said. In his interview Sunday, Mr. Trump said he had owned the equivalent of "more than 50%."

Unfortunately economists do not see things through Trump's eyes and as it turns out, neither do the courts.

Every time you text the name Trump, it equals more votes.

How many times do I need to ask you how that makes any sense?

Trump is a name, a brand, a symbol and graphic identity that could enable voters to effectively identify with the Don.

When people see the name Trump, they see:
- Sincerity
- Excitement
- Sophistication
- Ruggedness

I see a liar, a womanizer, a man who laughs at incest jokes about his own daughter, an ego, ill mannered blow hard. Type his name 50 times for me. See if it that translates to 50 votes from me because you have a crush on him.

When we see names like Romney, Huckabee etc, we see political turds. People are tired of these type of candidates.

If you Google Romney or Huckabee you will see Donald Trump's name pop up, his name steals the show, thus he could steal the votes!

The fact is Trump is more engaging and more exciting than the other candidates, his name alone is win-win.

Yeah, him and Charlie Sheen. Luckily most people I know can think beyond Jersey Shore and "turds" so I am not too concerned you are very representative.

Name recognition
en.wikipedia.org...

Name recognition is a concept used in politics to describe the number of people who are aware of a politician. It is considered an important factor in elections, as candidates with low name recognition are unlikely to receive votes from people who only casually follow politics.

Yeah, thanks but that means absolutely nothing to me right now. No one is voting for Lyndsay Lohan and she has been on the news every day this week.

I know it's hard for you to comprehend the facts that would influence a reasonable viewer under certain circumstances in making an voting decision. The ratio of probable votes for Trump out weighs your thoughts. There is definitive proof viewers would vote for him, all that information has been established here. www.abovetopsecret.com...

Supposition? Really? "Proven" means something quite different. Like I said, I watch and I am never gonna vote for him for anything so your logic fails and your supposition is less than swaying.

Just Do the Math minus you. There will be people who will vote against their own interests, you might fit into that category, should it be Trump vs. Obama.

Trump On

A song sung and written by Mike D. McCoy
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I guess I thought you were actually going to try and make your case instead of just repeating it and yet again going on and on about the trash tv I watch because I named two whole shows, one of which is Trump's. The personal attacks were a lot of fun but the repetition is getting old.

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How do you know he listens to his constituents? He has never had any constituents. He's a business man, not a political figure...until now.

Hell no!!!

The guy managed to bankrupt a casino (!!!) several times in only 3 years

Add to that the fact that's he's apparently one of those nutcase birthers and making other crazy statements, he'd turn the US into the laughing stock of the world...

If the choice was him or Charlie Sheen, I'd have to think long and hard. One one hand Sheen has "tiger blood", on the other Trump claims to have "brain power"

Originally posted by MrXYZ
Trump claims to have "brain power"

Isikoff: you were paid $2 million a year --

>>Trump: excuse me. i didn't run the company. i'm just telling you.

>>Isikoff: so what were you paid $2 million a year for?

>> Trump: excuse me. because of my genius. okay?

Interesting thread from 8 years ago. ATS was pretty divided on him then too.

I voted for him the first time around, and will do so the second. Compared to the other candidates voting for anyone else would be like sticking your hand in a vice grip and deliberately crushing it.