Israeli schoolbus hit with anti-tank weapon fired from Gaza, critically wounding teen

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by xuenchen

 

Funny you should mention the IDF missing when it comes to some of the JDL's attacks...

it came as a surprise to some that the latest malefactors accorded POW status in the "War on Terrorism" turned out to be Jewish.

Arrested and charged last week with intriguing to do explosive little actions on a Culver City, California, mosque and the offices of Lebanese American U.S. Representative Darrell Issa, Jewish Defense League chief Irving David Rubin and JDL member Earl Leslie Krugel were, according to FBI wiretap transcripts, anything but circumspect about their devices and desires: Though Rubin lamented the wanting state of technology in the JDL's possession (not good enough to "blow up an entire building"), Krugel was adamant that "Arabs need a wake-up call" and that the JDL needs to do something to one of their "filthy mosques" - which may explain the five pounds of gunpowder and pipe-bomb materiel found at his house. "If the people responsible for September 11 are the quintessence of evil genius, these guys are at the Keystone Kops end of the spectrum," says Hussein Ibish, communications director for the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee. "The only reassuring thing about them is their absolute ineptitude and the fact that they were arrested."

www.rense.com...

Much like the quality of the propaganda on this thread ineptitude seems to be the rule of the day when it comes to Zionist and Jewish extremists.

Something tells me they didn't know that child was going to be on the bus.

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ya funny,

but lets give 'em SOME credit at least......just a little maybe

they have been doing a hell of a lot better job HERE than the IDF !!!!

I wonder if all the combined efforts we see here could have been used over there for better results ???

arm chair armies and sofa soldiers make nice teddy bears ....

please dont squeeze the Charmin !

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Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by nenothtu

 

Is that factual enough?

Good information but no, factual maybe but way off the topic that was being discussed..
Proto was listing jewish terrorists...

Personally I don't like calling them jewish or muslim etc because I don't think either group represents the majority..

Yeah, but the topic was a Jewish bus blown up by Muslims in Israel. He was listing Jewish terrorists in the US, and leaving the Muslims out altogether. I didn't want any of my Islamic friends to feel left out or inadequate, as if they didn't have some of their own here... and I think Muslims can at least equal Jews in terrorism. It just wasn't sporting to leave them out in the cold like that!

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Yeah, but the topic was a Jewish bus blown up by Muslims in Israel. He was listing Jewish terrorists in the US, and leaving the Muslims out altogether. I didn't want any of my Islamic friends to feel left out or inadequate, as if they didn't have some of their own here... and I think Muslims can at least equal Jews in terrorism. It just wasn't sporting to leave them out in the cold like that!

Ah no worries..
So you have details of the terrorist activities of the groups in your area or just pictures of a bunch of muslims training like many american groups do??

Proto listed actual terrorist attacks..

reply to post by xuenchen


War is always a managed process in this day and age usually almost entirely for profit of some kind.

I cracked up today as Libyan Rebel Commanders told CNN and other outlets they just don't feel that NATO is doing enough heavy lifting for them, and that Kadaffis death squads are murdering trillions of citizens by the hour while Nato hems and haws about how committed it is.

After awhile when you look at how these things are being instigated with CIA Funding, and Internet manipulation by the professional arm chair warriors using the new HB Gary Software you have to almost laugh at the rediculousness of the propaganda if it weren't for the tears of how it really is just a managed and violent process to acquire resources and control banking, markets, and trades, and to establish ever growing monopolies.

I still think the greatest danger in Israel is how it has been used to create a politically correct thought police, and grow a full time security complex that really is turning ours into a police state.

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Yeah it seems like the FBI has a bead on every Muslim Terrorist organization in the US except of course for the group that carried out 9-11!

I am sure there are radical Muslims in America perhaps even planning or contemplating violence but so far every group or individual caught by the FBI since 9-11 of home grown islamic terrorists, have been more or less infiltrated by an FBI informant who provided cash, the targets, the weapons, the explosives and everything.

Honestly from a domestic standpoint I think we are more at risk from guys like McVeigh and the man who flew his Cessna into a IRS Building, and men like the guy who shot up the holocaust museum, and the federal reserve 20 years before on his first go round.

I honestly think the violence we are going to be facing more of here in America is not going to be from Muslims but fed up Americans at the snapping point.

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by nenothtu

 

Yeah, but the topic was a Jewish bus blown up by Muslims in Israel. He was listing Jewish terrorists in the US, and leaving the Muslims out altogether. I didn't want any of my Islamic friends to feel left out or inadequate, as if they didn't have some of their own here... and I think Muslims can at least equal Jews in terrorism. It just wasn't sporting to leave them out in the cold like that!

Ah no worries..
So you have details of the terrorist activities of the groups in your area or just pictures of a bunch of muslims training like many american groups do??

Proto listed actual terrorist attacks..

I've got a couple of reports laying around here somewhere on activities at various JuF compounds, including the one up in Red House VA, and somewhat less on the one down in SC. HQ is in New York State. There's also another compound in Meherrin VA and one in Falls Church, VA (home of that cleric that hauled ass for Yemen), but I don't have very much info on those two.

They've been laying low for the past while since they realized their activities were drawing the hairy eyeball, but they still have the training camps and are a pretty closed society. I can't recall just how many people they've killed, but it seems like it's been 17 or so. They had a facility in California, but that one got shut down and the people re-distributed to other compounds when they came under investigation for milking money out of the state's education fund, and... diverting... those funds. Another bunch in CO had to make a precipitous exit when a cache of full auto weapons and explosives were found that they were hiding in an abandoned mine out there, and in a nearby town a storage unit where they were keeping several issues of false ID, some literature, and a few cryptic notes was raided. All that was brought on when they were under investigation for fraud in Social Security and other public assistance.

This is the same bunch who killed radio personality Alan Berg, and they also blew up a synagogue in Seattle, I think it was. Lovely people. You should hear how some of the locals react to their antics. Several of the neighbors to the HQ compound in New York have moved away, because the training and practice, and the loud noises that entailed, were annoying them, not to mention the gate guards creeped them out.

I asked a Pakistani friend of mine about one of the more local groups to see what he knew, but he'd never heard of them. He went and asked around at the mosque, said he got some blamk looks, some shifty looks, and some folks out right laughed. See, "Jamaat ul Fuqra" means "Community of the Impoverished", but readily and freely translates to "Den of Beggars". "Fuqra" is related to the term "fakir". Most of the membership are US nationals, rather than Arabs of any sort, and were recruited in prisons. The organization was started by Sheikh Gilani from Pakistan in the early 80's. It's my understanding that Gilani is the man Daniel Perl was trying to gain an interview with when he was kidnapped and beheaded in Pakistan.

Just a lovely bunch of folks. Care for a cup o' chai?

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

Then leave.

This thread isnt about you...

Isn't about you either or in fact anyone posting..
Maybe we should all leave..
The topic was unproven, biased words from the start...
Yes Hamas hit a school bus, but probably by accident..
End of thread

i guess they missed the M1 tank escorts?

my condolences to the teens family, btw.

Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by nenothtu

 

Yeah, but the topic was a Jewish bus blown up by Muslims in Israel. He was listing Jewish terrorists in the US, and leaving the Muslims out altogether. I didn't want any of my Islamic friends to feel left out or inadequate, as if they didn't have some of their own here... and I think Muslims can at least equal Jews in terrorism. It just wasn't sporting to leave them out in the cold like that!

Ah no worries..
So you have details of the terrorist activities of the groups in your area or just pictures of a bunch of muslims training like many american groups do??

Proto listed actual terrorist attacks..

I've got a couple of reports laying around here somewhere on activities at various JuF compounds, including the one up in Red House VA, and somewhat less on the one down in SC. HQ is in New York State. There's also another compound in Meherrin VA and one in Falls Church, VA (home of that cleric that hauled ass for Yemen), but I don't have very much info on those two.

They've been laying low for the past while since they realized their activities were drawing the hairy eyeball, but they still have the training camps and are a pretty closed society. I can't recall just how many people they've killed, but it seems like it's been 17 or so. They had a facility in California, but that one got shut down and the people re-distributed to other compounds when they came under investigation for milking money out of the state's education fund, and... diverting... those funds. Another bunch in CO had to make a precipitous exit when a cache of full auto weapons and explosives were found that they were hiding in an abandoned mine out there, and in a nearby town a storage unit where they were keeping several issues of false ID, some literature, and a few cryptic notes was raided. All that was brought on when they were under investigation for fraud in Social Security and other public assistance.

This is the same bunch who killed radio personality Alan Berg, and they also blew up a synagogue in Seattle, I think it was. Lovely people. You should hear how some of the locals react to their antics. Several of the neighbors to the HQ compound in New York have moved away, because the training and practice, and the loud noises that entailed, were annoying them, not to mention the gate guards creeped them out.

I asked a Pakistani friend of mine about one of the more local groups to see what he knew, but he'd never heard of them. He went and asked around at the mosque, said he got some blamk looks, some shifty looks, and some folks out right laughed. See, "Jamaat ul Fuqra" means "Community of the Impoverished", but readily and freely translates to "Den of Beggars". "Fuqra" is related to the term "fakir". Most of the membership are US nationals, rather than Arabs of any sort, and were recruited in prisons. The organization was started by Sheikh Gilani from Pakistan in the early 80's. It's my understanding that Gilani is the man Daniel Perl was trying to gain an interview with when he was kidnapped and beheaded in Pakistan.

Just a lovely bunch of folks. Care for a cup o' chai?

Great Cesaers Ghost !!

sounds like these guys could be Mossad ...... ????

any evidence pointing to FF's ??

just as a preliminary observation. ?


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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by nenothtu

 

Yeah it seems like the FBI has a bead on every Muslim Terrorist organization in the US except of course for the group that carried out 9-11!

Well, according to the 911 Commission report, if one wants to put any stock in that, the bunch that carried out 911 were based mainly in Germany. Probably gave Merkel a bit of indigestion to hear that. The JuF are for the most part born and bred American Nationals, so it could be viewed as "Home Grown radicalization" if one prefers, and can ignore the Islamic component of their religion and motivation.

The main road at the Red House compound is "Sheikh Gilani Lane", and I find it mildly amusing that the compound at Meherrin, just outside Richmond has "Mahareen Lane" as the main drag. Evidently, they chose that little burg to site themselves in because of the similarity of the Indian word "Meherrin" (name of a tribe in the Powhatan Confederacy) and the Arabic "Mahareen".

I am sure there are radical Muslims in America perhaps even planning or contemplating violence but so far every group or individual caught by the FBI since 9-11 of home grown islamic terrorists, have been more or less infiltrated by an FBI informant who provided cash, the targets, the weapons, the explosives and everything.

Oddly, the FBI hasn't had much success in infiltrating the JuF, which I suppose is why they decided to rather openly associate with them at social functions - lets the FBI "keep an eye" on them, and lets the JuF make a big show of what fine fellows they are, even willing to entertain the FBI. They must be really nice guys who only occasionally commit the odd bit of mayhem here and there, since I'm a fairly nice guy, and I won't do lunch with the Feebs.

"Other" folks keep a surreptitious eye on them through the brush, and I do believe that surveillance is what directly resulted in the arrest of a Red House couple for posession of unlicensed automatic weapons (AKs in that case).

Honestly from a domestic standpoint I think we are more at risk from guys like McVeigh and the man who flew his Cessna into a IRS Building, and men like the guy who shot up the holocaust museum, and the federal reserve 20 years before on his first go round.

I wonder if Alan Berg thought along those lines as well? We'll never know now, I suppose.

I honestly think the violence we are going to be facing more of here in America is not going to be from Muslims but fed up Americans at the snapping point.

You're probably right there. There are only a couple thousand JuF members, and there are a damn sight more Americans than that who are creeping towards the edge. The thing is, once the lead starts flying, I really stop caring just which god the launchers are praying for victory to. One is about as bad as the next when he's got my one and only precious bod in the sights.

Originally posted by xuenchen

Great Cesaers Ghost !!

sounds like these guys could be Mossad ...... ????

any evidence pointing to FF's ??

just as a preliminary observation. ?


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Nah. Most are US Nationals recruited in prisons. US born and bred, and I'd not want to be in the same room with any of them when I suggested they were "Mossad", given their proclivity for making folks stop breathing, together with their religious and political views.

Just as a test, maybe I'll sneak up there one dark night next week and paint a Star of David on the signpost for Sheikh Gilani Lane, and see how well that's received. If I do, I'll let you know how it turns out.

Edit to add: If I can catch one of them out at the convenience store, and just casually mention to him "Hey, did ya hear about that Jewish kid that Hamas killed on the school bus last week?" and he replies, "yeah man, that was just too cool", would that be an indication that he's really Mossad to you?

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

they will, stay on subject

Really and how to you propose to convince me you will get the 12 odd posters associated in this gang now working the thread to stay on topic, stop the rediculous odes to war, their war stories, their religious beliefs, and their ad-hominen, including the cherry picking of this thread and other threads to take out of context statements solely for the purpose of ad-hominen attacks?

Buddy I am going to tell you straight up this thread would have died days ago and ended up with 10 flags and 3 pages had you not started bad mouthing conspiracy theorists and ATS and telling people they weren't allowed to post about the conspiracy angles of this attack of this school bus.

I absolutely am not going to be pushed around in this regard.

I am on ATS to discuss conspiracies where ever they occur.

Now can you really get your merry little band of off topic posters under control?

Because I have been dying to get off this thread for a week now.

I really don't have the time for it, but I am sure not going to be bullied by anyone, not on ATS, not on the street, not anywhere.

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I wonder if this has been considered ??


boingboing.net...

US military launches Operation Sock Puppet, pays contractor $2.76m for social media ops

www.guardian.co.uk...

Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media

Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda

Hmmmmmmmmm.........


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Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

 

Jewish terrorists in America?
The only terrorists we have in the US are white trash Americans like you spreading these lies and hate. Reading your posts, what you say and the way you structure your thoughts I don’t know if this is a joke or I’m dealing with someone who has a mental problem.

Seriously your page says you are a grandfather. Are you going to raise your grandchildren with hate and anger? Will they be destined to live in the sidelines of American society because they had an angry old man for a grandpa?

I don't understand why you keep reffering to him as hateful, racist and angry. Highlight somthing that he has written that potrays him in this light. Otherwise shutup and stop the ad-homein attacks.

I see this had turned into April's humor thread:

*Hey master Proto, I wish I could applaud you.

**Yes my young apprentice, it's the force that keeps us strong against those barbarians.

*couldn't say it any better master Proto. They don't even apologize for killing a sith.

**so true my young apprentice. It's their inherent violence that we together will defy and defeat.

*I wish I could applaud you again. But here is my saber as a token of appreciation.

***xuenchen...hey, can I learn the JediProto ways too?...Please?

**Hey kids, it's my thread and don't you forget it. Signed, Proto.


Betselem - for the information of those using it as a credible source - is an organization funded by Palestinian Foundations that are funded by Arab nations – including Iran – and some European funds that do not hide their agendas against Israel. Betselem was caught many times in fabricating violent scenes, manipulating evidence, using bogus witnesses and lying through their teeth. Do a search on that if you want.

I would trust any information coming from those scums as much as I would trust a rabid dog.

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It's funny that your trying to discredit B'Tselem as a source even though it is impartial and often reports on Palestinian human rights abuses as well. I googled B'Tselem lies and all I could find is a few blogs and an Israeli propoganda website called Israeli Uncensored News. If you read the first sentence you can already discredit the source.

B’Tselem, an infamous ultra-left organization of Jewish traitors, liable to execution under the rabbinical law,

I have for a long period of time been analysing information off of Human Rights Watch, B'Tselem and Amnesty International. There is a global consensus that these orginizations are impartial and unbiased. Even pro-Zionists such as Alan Derschowitz applaud B'Tselem. Once again I have caught you red-handed posting lies and false information on this board. If you are going to make such claims back it up with information and links.

Originally posted by gravitational
I see this had turned into April's humor thread:

*Hey master Proto, I wish I could applaud you.

**Yes my young apprentice, it's the force that keeps us strong against those barbarians.

*couldn't say it any better master Proto. They don't even apologize for killing a sith.

**so true my young apprentice. It's their inherent violence that we together will defy and defeat.

*I wish I could applaud you again. But here is my saber as a token of appreciation.

***xuenchen...hey, can I learn the JediProto ways too?...Please?

**Hey kids, it's my thread and don't you forget it. Signed, Proto.


Betselem - for the information of those using it as a credible source - is an organization funded by Palestinian Foundations that are funded by Arab nations – including Iran – and some European funds that do not hide their agendas against Israel. Betselem was caught many times in fabricating violent scenes, manipulating evidence, using bogus witnesses and lying through their teeth. Do a search on that if you want.

I would trust any information coming from those scums as much as I would trust a rabid dog.

you lost me pardner...

i dont understand what JediProto is ???


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"One or more terrorists fired a powerful anti-tank weapon at a bus carrying Israeli children home from school, injuring several students, one critically. "

Powerfull was it.

Only one is critically are they.

Now lets think about 3" thick steel used to protect tanks and your average bus crash and ask ourselves if this realy is the result of "a powerful anti-tank weapon"

Sorry but this sounds about as good as the paintball guns used to kill peace activists in international waters

How do you tell when an attack from Palestine is NOT a Mossad agent operation? How do you tell when Israel is defending itself and when it is intentionally staging attacks against itself to justify unwarranted attacks against Palestine to steal land? I guess if an Israeli was killed than that was Mossad but if an Israeli was not killed than that is....Mossad? Mossad is the Osama Bin Laden of Israel it appears.

Suicide attack against Israel? Mossad.
Mortar attack against Israel? Mossad.
Rocket attack against Israel? Mossad.
Italian Reporter found murdered? Mossad.
Family of Jews build a settlement illegally on Palestinian land and the family murdered? Mossad.
Those Mossad sure do get around don't they?

In war people die. Hamas is at war with Israel. Hamas took credit. Game over.

I personally think that Hamas is in collaboration with comet Elinin and planet Nirubu to destroy the Taco Bell franchise in Israel.

In other words, some times a conspiracy is a conspiracy, and sometimes a cigar is just a good smoke.
Or that's what the Israeli reptilian illuminatti that lives in my mailbox says.

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Suicide attack against Israel? Mossad.
Mortar attack against Israel? Mossad.
Rocket attack against Israel? Mossad.
Italian Reporter found murdered? Mossad.
Family of Jews build a settlement illegally on Palestinian land and the family murdered? Mossad.
Those Mossad sure do get around don't they?

Hamas have never been slow to take credit for attacks..
Not sure what the hell you are on about..

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Or maybe, that's just what "THEY" WANT you to think....