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Libyan Rebels chant "Thank You Obama" "Thank you Cameron"

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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 07:46 AM
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Thousands of people gathered on the streets of Benghazi, the opposition stronghold, to thank Britain, France, America and other nations for the military action of recent days.

Dozens of government troops have been detained by rebels in the city - some have been paraded in front of TV cameras.

Reports that they were chanting "Thank you Obama" "Thank you Cameron"

www.bbc.co.uk...

There we are, they are actually thanking us Brits, the Americans and France for our help.

We are in there for a good reason, for now anyway, interesting to see how this developes.




posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 08:00 AM
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I call BS.

Its not that difficult to round up a bunch of guys and chant on camera. This was revealed when the allies tore down a statue of Saddam. The people chanting and cheering as the statue was being torn down was revealed to be militants working along side the U.S as the media portrayed the event as thousands of Iraqis celebrating their liberation from Saddam. No Iraqi's showed up.



This was a media op to sell an idea to the world but as you can see staging events is not a big thing at all.
Dont believe the hype. Believe the hype is a sequel.



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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 09:44 AM
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Haydn, what if people protested in the UK to leave the EU? What if hundreds of thousands of people protested to take over the UK? Would you see it all the same way as this "overthrow" of "other" countries that you are witnessing?

Look into the history of countries being "overthrown". The UK and USA has overthrown many a country around the world, and it's NOT we, Haydn, remember that. My GOD man, the propaganda from media is designed to MAKE you feel as you posted here. Understand?

I would bet that if you looked "deeper" into these changes in north Africa etc, you will find the fronts, NGO's and organizations behind them. As a wise president ( Franklin D. Roosevelt ) once said... "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way."

I will also bet you will find much is planned in all this, if you look deeper. At least deeper then BBC or any other Major media. Who knows, you might find intelligence agencies involved. Go figure it out. lol

After all this is ATS!!!

Anyway, have fun... like I said... it's NOT we!



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Haydn_17


Dozens of government troops have been detained by rebels in the city - some have been paraded in front of TV cameras.



I can't wait until government troops are detained by rebels in America. We could have used that help during the G20 in Pittsburgh when police officers were arresting college students who were bystanders and not even participating in the protests. Too bad the media wasn't there for that. of course if that happened in America the media would change their tune and say the government has the right to shoot protesters.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 09:54 AM
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Hope you're the one that comes gets this old soldier.

On topic

I guess someone finally found some people to go on television thanking Obama for doing nothing. That reporter in Egypt couldn't do it, I guess someone has been redeemed.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by Becoming
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Hope you're the one that comes gets this old soldier.


Not likely since I'm not a rebel paid for by the CIA.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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Smells like Libyawood is seeing a rise in its actor population. Wait til they hear what hollywood actors get paid, they'll picket for fair wages


 
Posted Via ATS Mobile: m.abovetopsecret.com
 



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 11:05 AM
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I'm as cynical as anyone else when it comes to what motivates our respective political leaders. However this uprising in Libya comes against a backdrop of protests and demands for change in many countries. Whilst we may question why Libya and not everywhere else, we should at least be glad of intervention...whatever the motivation.
As the drama in Libya unfolded and the protesters became 'rebels' it was clear that there would only be one outcome and the rebellion would be crushed. I think all of the people in the world that have been supporting these 'uprisings'...even if only in the spirit of the thing...wanted them to succeed...and wanted intervention.

People compare this to events such as 'Iraq' but it is a different affair altogether. This time there is an uprising in place and I'm sure the people of Libya will be well rid of this 'mad dog' and his regime.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by midicon

we should at least be glad of intervention...whatever the motivation.


So I can intervene in your household whatever the motivation? Thanks.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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Will some people on here please rejoin reality. To insinuate that these people are all somehow paid actors and actresses is deplorable and completely negates the desire of many to simply live in peace and experience freedom.

It is possible to NOT support US / UN intervention BUT still acknowledge that the Libyan people are not content with the status quo.

Forget it -- I must be wrong.
It's completely inconceivable that people could possibly want the ability to speak out against their government, to be able to worship openly, and to be a female and be able to walk down the street without a male escort or be able to enter a government building without the threat of imprisonment or execution.

I guess the people in Bahrain, Yemen, Syria, Saudi Arabia, et al., are all paid actors as well? That's a lot of coin I didn't know the US even had to be throwing around. Amazing.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Im sure everyone remembers the Brining down of the statue of Saddam Hussein


Arguably the most visible image of the 2003 invasion of Iraq was the toppling of a statue of Saddam Hussein in Firdos Square in central Baghdad. While media coverage of the event, at first glance, gave the impression that the act was a spontaneous action of the citizens of the city, it was actually an idea hatched by an Army psychological operations team.[22] Allegations surfaced that the group of people surrounding the statue and cheering was in fact smaller than it was made out to be in the official story, and that the group were by some accounts not local to the area but were instead brought in by the military for the specific purpose of watching and lending credence to the planned toppling


en.wikipedia.org...(United_States)#Toppling_of_Saddam_Hussein_statue


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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Perhaps it isn't quite so simple...and I was merely expressing an opinion.

And I am happy to be wrong...if you like.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by midicon
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Perhaps it isn't quite so simple...and I was merely expressing an opinion.

And I am happy to be wrong...if you like.




Egypt didn't need intervention, why Libya? If it is a protest by the people let the people do it, not the people plus the world's biggest offensive army posing as a humanitarian mission. This will just lead to a new dictator all over again.
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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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Libyan Rebels???
Don't you mean Al Queda ???

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by filosophia

Originally posted by midicon
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Perhaps it isn't quite so simple...and I was merely expressing an opinion.

And I am happy to be wrong...if you like.




Egypt didn't need intervention, why Libya? If it is a protest by the people let the people do it, not the people plus the world's biggest offensive army posing as a humanitarian mission. This will just lead to a new dictator all over again.
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Because Egypts military chose not to attack the egyptian people. That didnt happen in Lybia.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 04:36 PM
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next TCOTBIP and their MSM mouthpieces will tell us that gadaffi had his soldiers?/mercenaries? take babies out of incubators and ate them. Nurse_Nayirah


i've been sharing the following links on all the Libya related threads 'cause a lot of people have been drinking the kool-aid on this one, sadly it's not getting through some heads as i see the same people posting the same old MSM pro usa crapspew. perhaps they just post and don't keep reading the threads before, going on to the next Libya thread to post the same old crap

Obama asks Saudis to airlift weapons into Benghazi www.abovetopsecret.com...


Exclusive: Benghazi Explosion – Tactical Nuke Use By Gaddafi Suspected www.abovetopsecret.com...

Tactical BS more like it, it was the BS meter that actually exploded
, later shown to be the bombing of a local arms depot/cache


Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler The headline ought to read Tactical Nuke Use By Gaddafi Suspected by Donald Duck. The article seems to be making a case for that any explosion anywhere that either hurts or offends the sensibilities of Americans is a tactical nuke! The article also suggests the Oklahoma Bombing was a tactical nuclear device! Seems like yet another sensationalized accusation of the kind that gave us WMD in Iraq. Just a lot of unsubstantiated gibberish designed to enflame and anger people and get people here thinking about paying for another war for oil. How many times are the American people going to get fooled by the same old song and dance, wrap it in a flag, and have God bless it, and presto whamo American bombs start snuffing out 'collateral damage' everywhere.


Benghazi's importance to Libya and possibly the World:
also explains why Qaddafi has come down really harsh on these "rebels"


While many countries in the Middle East and North Africa bicker over water rights, Libya has tapped into an aquifer of 'fossil water' to change its topography – turning sand into soil. The 26-year, $20 billion project is nearly finished. …The Great Man-Made River, which is leader Muammar Qaddafi's ambitious answer to the country’s water problems, irrigates Libya’s large desert farms. The 2,333-mile network of pipes ferry water from four major underground aquifers in southern Libya to the northern population centers. Wells punctuate the water’s path, allowing farmers to utilize the water network in their fields. ... “Water is more precious for us than oil. ... Water here in Libya, it’s life.”


after all why would Qaddafi want to damage or destroy a 26-year, $20+ billion project that he considers his life's work?

Virtually unknown in the West: Libya's water resources. The real reason for toppling Quadaffi? www.abovetopsecret.com...


Libya: British plans to strip Gaddafi of oil revenue www.abovetopsecret.com...

Libya False Flag -part 1: Reuters Hoax EXPOSED www.abovetopsecret.com...
truthfrequencynews.com...
World Cheers as the CIA Plunges Libya Into Chaos www.informationclearinghouse.info...




How was Libya doing under the rule of Gadaffi? How bad did the people have it? Were they oppressed as we now commonly accept as fact? Let us look at the facts for a moment.

Before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech republic. It ranked 61st. Libya had the lowest infant mortality rate of all of Africa. Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa. Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food.People in Libya were rich. Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. The government took care to ensure that everyone in the country shared in the wealth. Libya had the highest Human Development Index of any country on the continent. The wealth was distributed equally. In Libya, a lower percentage of people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.

How does Libya get so rich? The answer is oil. The country has a lot of oil, and does not allow foreign corporations to steal the resources while the population starves, unlike countries like Nigeria, a country that is basically run by Shell.

Like any country, Libya suffers from a government with corrupt bureaucrats that try to gain a bigger portion of the pie at the cost of everyone else. In response to this, Kadaffi called for the oil revenue to be distributed directly to the people, because in his opinion, the government was failing the people. However, unlike the article claims, Kadaffi is not the president of Libya. In fact he holds no official position in the government. This is the big mistake that people make. They claim that Kadaffi rules over Libya when in fact he doesn't, his position is more or less ceremonial. He should be compared to a founding father.

The true leader of Libya is an indirectly elected prime-minister. The current prime-minister is
Baghdadi Mahmudi. Calling Khadaffi the leader of Libya is comparable to calling Akihito the leader of Japan. Contrary to what your media is sketching, opinions in Libya vary. Some people support Gadaffi but want Mahmudi out. Others want both out. Many just want to live their life in peace. However, effort is taken to sketch the appearance of a popular revolt against the supposed leader of Libya, Gadaffi, when in fact he is just the architect of Libya's current political system, a mixture of pan-Arabism, socialism, and Islamic government.

Are the protesters in Libya comparable to the protesters in Egypt and Tunisia? Not at all. The governments reaction is more violent, and obviously excessive violence is being used. However let us look for a moment at the actions of the protesters. The building of the the general people's congress, the parliament of Libya, was put on fire by angry protestors. This is comparable to protesters putting the United States Capitol on fire. Do you think that for even a moment the US government would sit idly by as protesters put the US capitol on fire?


Great Britain funded an Al Qaeda cell in Libya, in an attempt to assassinate Gadaffi. The main opposition group in Libya now is the National Front for the Salvation of Libya. This opposition group is being funded by Saudi Arabia, the CIA, and French Intelligence. This group unified itself with other opposition groups, to become the National Conference for the Libyan Opposition. It was this organization that called for the "Day of Rage" that plunged Libya into chaos on February 17 of this year.

It did this in Benghazi, a conservative city that has always been opposed to Gadaffi's rule. It should be noted that the National Front for the Salvation of Libya is well armed. In 1996 the group tried to unleash a revolution in the eastern part of Libya before. It used the Libyan National Army, the armed division of the NFSL to begin this failed uprising.

Why is the United States so opposed to Gadaffi? He is the main threat to US hegemony in Africa, because he attempts to unite the continent against the United States. This concept is called the United States of Africa. In fact, Gadaffi holds all sorts of ideas that are contrary to US interests. The man blames the United States government for the creation of HIV. He claims that Israel is behind the assasination of Martin Luther King and president John. F. Kennedy. He says that the 9/11 hijackers were trained in the US. He also urged Libyans to donate blood to Americans after 9/11. Khadaffi is also the last of a generation of moderate socialist pan-Arab revolutionaries that is still in power, after Nasser and Hussein have been eliminated, and Syria has aligned itself with Iran.The United States and Israel however have no interest in a strong Arab world. In fact it seems that elementary to the plan is bringing Libya to its knees through chaos and anarchy. In late 2010, the United Kingdom was still propping up the Libyan government through lucrative arms sales. Nothing is a better guarantee to destroy Libya than a bloody civil war. The tribal system that is still strong in Libya is useful to exploit to generate such a war since Libya has historically been divided into various tribal groups.

This is also why the Libyan government responds by importing mercenaries. Tribal allegiances go before allegiance to the government, especially in Benghazi, and thus the central government has no control over the eastern part of the country anymore. The alternative to mercenaries is a conflict between the various ethnic groups. Gadaffi has tried for 41 years to make the country more homogeneous, but opposition groups funded by outside forced will take little more than a few days to put the country back into the 19th century, before the region was conquered and unified by Europeans. The violence is indeed excessive, but everyone seems to forget that the situation is not the same as in Tunis and Egypt. Tribal ties play a far greater role, and thus the conflict will unfortunately be bloodier.


2 excellent threads that cut trough the BS by ATS member Boondock-Saint:

Obama provides air cover for terrorists who killed Americans in Iraq, www.abovetopsecret.com...
Gadhaffi funded Sarkozy's French Presidential Campaign?? www.abovetopsecret.com...

Kissinger plan to transform North Africa and Middle East into Turkmenistan forum.prisonplanet.com...
depopulation_linked_merck_pharma_announces_africa_plan www.infowars.com...

www.schillerinstitute.org...

wlym.com...


PROPAGANDA is a weapon of war and not just political control, people, and many seem to be the losers on these Libya threads.

not to mention the bots,dupes and disinfo-spreaders both conscious and unconscious, and those who want to show everybody that they "know" when all their doing is repeating something they were told.

the last thing the West wants is a United Africa, no more cheap or nearly free resources and no more toxic waste dump[Somalia] and no more bio-warfare testing on the continent of the greatest human genetic variability if that should happen. TCOTBIP having planning to commit genocide in Africa for a very long time
the last link is from 1974.



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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ahhh!!! sorry had't gotten down to your post [see previous post]

glad to see i'm not the only one tr- er trawling the libya threads in search of the misinformed



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 04:44 PM
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2007 West Point Study Shows Benghazi-Darnah-Tobruk Area was a World Leader in Al Qaeda Suicide Bomber Recruitment
The CIA’s Libya Rebels: The Same Terrorists who Killed US, NATO Troops in Iraq

tarpley.net...

yeah Thanx OBAMA
thanx BUSH
thank you america
Al CIA DuH thanks you...


ummm
Ghadaffy, like JFK, and Lincoln, and saddan and amahjinadad was going to start minting his own gold coins, and/or was going to start trading oil in other then dollars....
send in al CIA duh


has the US quit killing innocent civilians in afghansistan or Pakistan or Iraq or even in the US...?
no
remember the flotilla? ( THANX OBAMA!)

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posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 05:18 PM
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Just as with the Kuwaitis waving American flags, cheering the soldiers after the Gulf War; where did they get all those American flags?



posted on Mar, 24 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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Hmm, I guess no one is safe from repeating what they're told.

All I see here is link after link and opinion after opinion. Apples don't fall far from the tree.



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