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Agents are pretty easy to spot. They appear on threads almost immediately, and keep on going and going and going - no matter what the argument, no matter now much info is provided, no matter now much they may get flamed....total resilience is one characteristic of the agent... That's what they're trained and paid to do. Arguing with them plays right into their hands..and helps them derail a thread.
Originally posted by ImmortalIntegrity
reply to post by MathiasAndrew
Let's be clear, I am NOT attacking anybody here. What I would like to find out is why there seems to be so many that are passionate about defending contrails, where do these people come from, and how much do they know.
Originally posted by ImmortalIntegrity
reply to post by exroyalnavy
With that being said, Is there any chemtrail debunkers out there that think HAARP should be debunked also?
I've learned that most who like cheerios like milk too.
So, anybody? We must start from the ground and build up ladies and gentlemen.
Originally posted by ImmortalIntegrity
OK folks, lets stay on topic please. We are discussing chemtrail debunkers here, not the chemtrails. If you are a chemtrail debunker we are questioning your credibility, not the chemtrail's credibility. Again stick to the subject please and thanks again. If you would like to discuss chemtrails, choose your thread accordingly.edit on 18-3-2011 by ImmortalIntegrity because: corrections
Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
I wanted to share these two links with everyone. The first one is to the ATS Live podcast on Sat. March 12, 2011 on chemtrails. The show featured Dr.Lenny Thyme and the producer of "What in the World are they spraying" Michael J Murphy. The chemtrail segment begins in the second hour of the show at approximately 1:01:00..
www.abovetopsecret.com...
The second link is to a thread that was made with Dr Lenny Thyme before the show.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Both the podcast and the later thread have a slight bit of controversy surrounding their abrupt ending. During the podcast at about 1:38:00 Michael J Murphy gets intentionally disconnected from the show by it's host. The following thread with Dr.Thyme was closed to more comments for unknown reasons.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by ImmortalIntegrity
reply to post by exroyalnavy
With that being said, Is there any chemtrail debunkers out there that think HAARP should be debunked also?
I've learned that most who like cheerios like milk too.
So, anybody? We must start from the ground and build up ladies and gentlemen.
HAARP debunked, as in it causes earthquakes, accomplishes mind control, controls the weather, etc, rather than "just" being a research facility that is completely open to the public at least once a year?
Sure - but you should really start another thread, and it has been pretty much done to death as well......
I would like to propose that chemtrail debunkers are nothing more than government shills, shilling themselves to the point of ridicule.
Ad hominem abuse (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to invalidate his argument, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensible character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument. This tactic is logically fallacious because insults and even true negative facts about the opponent's personal character have nothing to do with the logical merits of the opponent's arguments or assertions.
I would like to propose that chemtrail debunkers are nothing more than government shills, shilling themselves to the point of ridicule.
The entire point of this thread is a cop out.
If the evidence is so irrefutable, there should be no reason whatsoever to attack ones character to make your point.
Do you have documented examples to prove that "debunkers" are posting misinformation?
What evidence have you collected that proves "debunkers" are paid government shills? Check stubs? W9's?
All in all, this is basically a giant ad hominem attack against anyone that has a differing viewpoint regarding "chemtrails".
From wikipedia
A shill or plant is a person who helps another person or organization to sell goods or services without disclosing that he or she has a close relationship with the seller. The shill pretends to have no association with the seller/group and gives onlookers the impression that he or she is an enthusiastic independent customer. The person or group that hires the shill is using crowd psychology, to encourage other onlookers or audience members (who are unaware of the set-up) to purchase the said goods or services. Shills are often employed by confidence artists. The term is also used to describe a person who is paid to help a political party or other advocacy organization to gain adherents; as with the situation of selling goods or services, the shill gives the impression of being unrelated to the group in question, and gives the impression that he or she finds merit in the ideological claims of the political party.
I would like to propose that chemtrail debunkers are nothing more than government shills, shilling themselves to the point of ridicule.
the act of making fun of someone or something in a cruel or harsh way : harsh comments made by people who are laughing at someone or something
That about fits the bill
What exactly am I copping out of?
Did you read the bill?
I didn't insult anybody.
I didn't say that I was going to ridicule anyone, just that consistent attempts to debunk chemtrails may draw ridicule.
Maybe your perception is off? as you can see, you are wrong my friend.