Spent fuel Rod fire could be worse than Chernobyl, page 7


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reply posted on 17-3-2011 @ 06:03 PM by okiecowboy
reply to post by XtraTL



very well written post!
Thank you

while I will agree it is very hard to compare all the events..I will try my best to explain my point



less than 1g of the 600g of material were transformed to energy (you can compute this from Einstein's famous E = mc^2 equation). The rest of the fissile material probably evaporated and was pushed up into the atmosphere, most of which rained back down on the city and in nearby fallout.


I will not dispute what you said at all

following is the figures for 1 fuel rod assembly

Uranium/assembly, kg = 183.3


source

The Fukushima Daiichi plant has seven pools for spent fuel rods. Six of these are (or were) located at the top of six reactor buildings. One “common pool” is at ground level in a separate building. Each “reactor top” pool holds 3450 fuel rod assemblies. The common pool holds 6291 fuel rod assemblies.


that would be 632,385kg of uranium for one pool alone...I will leave it to you if you want to do further math..



Yes, a reactor explosion and fire *can* release more radiation than a nuclear bomb. But it is highly questionable to state that the reactors in Japan have done or will be able to do that.


This is why I wish we could get better news out of Japan..That Questionable part is the hard part



The dosages of radiation at Chernobyl were fatal within minutes. They were clearly thousands of times higher than has ever been the case at the Fukushima reactors.


Again this is where I wish we could get numbers from the site...we are at the mercy of what is been reported

Rather high levels radiation, over 1,200 microsieverts per hour

source

Chernobyl was 300 Sieverts per hour near the core
source

but from japan we don't have this kind of info yet
but
Max radiation levels recorded at Fukushima plant yesterday 400.00 mSv


Exposure of Chernobyl residents who were relocated after the 1986 explosion 350.00 mSv


Source



A 30km exclusion zone remains to this day, and that is after more than half a million "liqiudators" (people with shovels and wheelbarrows) carted away the radioactive remains of the disaster and after the reactor was entombed in concrete.



And in Japan we have a 30km Zone as well.....and the U.S. Military has made that a 50km zone for U.S. troops



At this point, to compare the accident in Japan with Chernobyl is just folly


I disagree..because one is over and can be studied and one is still on going..


reply posted on 17-3-2011 @ 10:14 PM by okiecowboy
reply to post by kimar





From what I am gathering it looks like things are either on the brink of improvement or those in charge are in the midst of a last-ditch effort PR campaign to ease fears before an all out nightmare scenario unfolds


I hope for one ..but fear the other

Thanks



reply posted on 19-3-2011 @ 12:53 AM by okiecowboy
reply to post by kimar





Update: Reactors 5 and 6 seem to be getting power.


well latest news is..power lines seem to be hooked up..but they are checking things out before flipping the switch


reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 11:56 AM by okiecowboy
reply to post by jiggerj





I don't get it? If a spent fuel rod has THAT much energy left, why can't it be used in some way. I have no idea how, just seems like nuclear geniuses should be able to come up with something useful for spent rods
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Very good question..
that's because they are too slow for Max production..you know us humans...we have to be running at max all the time



In fact..the fuel rods are now something they are using left over weapons grade plutonium for..
you would think as advanced as we are as a human race..we would find a way of dispose of our trash]


reply posted on 27-3-2011 @ 12:02 AM by okiecowboy
reply to post by poet1b





It might wake the pubic up to what a huge potential for disaster surrounds them in these nuclear power plants



I really hope you are right....

However I have my doubts


reply posted on 27-3-2011 @ 05:00 AM by C0bzz
I don't get it? If a spent fuel rod has THAT much energy left, why can't it be used in some way. I have no idea how, just seems like nuclear geniuses should be able to come up with something useful for spent rods.

They can be used:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Oh they've found lots of ways to use the spent rods...
www.abovetopsecret.com...


DU makes up a large part of spent nuclear fuel, but it would be too much work to separate it from the rest of the waste, so they don't. DU munitions are sourced from uranium enrichment waste, not spent fuel.
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reply posted on 30-3-2011 @ 01:08 AM by okiecowboy
reply to post by kimar





From what I am gathering it looks like things are either on the brink of improvement


I hate to say it but it looks like that improvement was short lived.
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