posted on Mar, 3 2011 @ 09:00 PM
First, to the OP, outstanding pics and capturing of these things as they develop
reply to post by weedwhacker
Those are all perfectly normal contrails and cirrus clouds.
I think most of us know the difference between a perfectly clear day beginning to fill with natural cirrus clouds, versus clouds that form directly
from contrails. It is my impression, from these pics and testimony, that there were no clouds, and that they formed straight from the contrails.
What is my alternative opinion? I will bring over a post I made in a related thread:
This is what I am thinking too bm2, nothing intentionally nefarious, but this is my hypothesis in it all:
I think there are efforts to influence weather and/or climate. with good intentions, BUT, what worries me is that some chemical co. has worked their
way into this issue, and sold something to a developing geo-engineering industry, convincing them that their product is beneficial. Now with any
industry these days this concerns me.
Why? Because within that paradigm is where I start to worry about the effects of any chemicals used to "help" human kind/planet in any potentially
dire climate challenges. Safety guideline compromise, chemical identification and cost cutting or lucrative profit margins is what worries me. I have
seen, too often, profits come before people, and/or plain laziness too. I am thinking of the Gulf spill and the safety negligence involved with the
alarms being disabled because they were disturbing people's sleep, or the acoustic monitors were passed up because of costs, AND how Haliburton used
chems for fracking that were not okayed for safety because they were never disclosed due to trade secrets, what a fine loophole.Thread
So I think the chem ind has seen an opportunity to sale massive amounts of chems under the premise of being beneficial to us and the planet. Think of
the money that could be generated. If we can think of it, you bet someone else in the industry has too. With some of these industries, it is almost as
if they begin their designs or technology and think they can just deal with any problems as they arise, instead of waiting or determining the
effectiveness and safety of what they are using. To reiterate my position, I don't think someone knows they are hurting people necessarily, but there
are those that follow orders, thinking that what they are working with has been approved and is fine, effective and necessary. Right? Most employees
aren't going to question the scientific validation of their company's product, that's what their scientists and, managers are for.
So my HYPOTHESIS regarding this matter is that the military and/or commercial airlines have been convinced(sold) of the notion that we must address
climate issues, but the public need not know because of potential panic reactions. Lucrative contracts between military and chem co's may have
occurred, because you know how aggressive marketer's can be, sell sell sell! The people involved with the dispersals, have been convinced they are
harmless, but necessary.
Does this make any sense? I don't mean to veer off topic, but I felt compelled to respond to your comment because it resonates with my premise.
ETA: I feel I should include why I think anything unusual is occurring. I have seen the old footage/pics of contrails, but the only multiple ones that
made criss crosses were groups of military planes in flight. I apprecite the notion of memories being fuzzy, but surely full sky criss cross patterns
would have remained a childhood wonderment, just as clouds themselves have or the blue sky. You know how as a child you see your first few spider
webs? Well you never forget that pattern, and I feel the full sky criss cross patterns would be permanently imprinted when I was a child, and I do not
recall any, Additionally, I have wondered which came first, the multiple trails or the consp theories. I started noticing these things in 2000, 3
years before I ever even considered any conspiracies at all, other than the Kennedy Assassination and cannabis/hemp issues. So for me, it was the
observation first, not the theory. So, how much has airplane traffic increased this century compared to the last decade of the last century? I am sure
there has been an increase, but not enough to fill the skies. I have asked everyone in my family, particularly the elders, and none of them ever
recall full criss cross patterns filling the skies, or watching a trail expand for hours to cover the sky.
Whew, finally got to make a full statement on my position...for what it's worth, there.
Geo-engeneering, including cloud seeding, which some claim are only on small scale operations, and that
I beg to differ. As I mentioned above,
I believe they have taken that tech to a more widespread level.
Last year, authorities ordered a record 840 flights in efforts to increase rain in 1.39 million square miles (3.6 million square kilometers) —
roughly one-third of Chinese territory. They also fired 116,000 rockets and 890,000 artillery shells.
But that is just part of the geo-engineering spectrum, and I think they are experimenting, not specifically with the intent to harm us so much, as an
effort to generate sales in the chem industry.
The materials used in cloud seeding include two primary categories, tied to the type of precipitation process involved. One category includes
those which act as glaciogenic (ice-forming) agents, such as silver iodide, dry ice and compressed liquid propane or carbon dioxide, which are
appropriate in cloud systems where the precipitation process is primarily cold (colder than freezing). Of the ice-forming materials, the most commonly
used is silver iodide. The second major category is focused on cloud systems where the warm (coalescence) process predominates. In those environments,
hygroscopic (water attracting) materials such as salt, urea and ammonium nitrate can be utilized. Of the hygroscopic materials, the most commonly used
And this little gem from another source- sulfur hexafluoride
Now this cloud-seeding weather mod is becoming big business, which is why I think some corps are pushing this tech beyond it's practicality,
in pursuit of big dollars
As to the dispersal methods, this is from their business page:
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