*Two aliens taking the %^$^ up planet tour. They look upon the greenish blue planet with wonder*


Alien: Hey come on, let's go down there... let's mess with 'em

Alien 2: Ay...ay shut the #&*$ up... they fight over black and white... we purple, what the $&$^ you think they gon' do to us?


credit: Eddie Griffin

Originally posted by StarblazerUK
Scientists have never discounted the chances of life on other planets, but they are rightly sceptical of any chance of visitation

Not this one. However, lots of scientists have not bothered to review the evidence that we have been visited and aren't in a position to make a positive statement. Not necessarily out of bloody mindedness, but because it is an extremely time consuming business. I have reviewed the evidence and am of the opinion that we have been visited. Like all opinions though, you are welcome to disagree.

Originally posted by Ph0en1x
This is a very interesting study nevertheless. For all we know, the universe could be teeming with life.

For the reasons I have given above, it looks pretty likely.

Fact is, im sure there are at least hundreds of planets with life on them within our own galaxy. So, out of the billions of galaxies there are, im sure "complex life" exists everywhere, in many different forms. I wish I could travel to those planets and explore them.

I also believe that life is everwhere. To the point, that the planets we view are alive, in a spiritual sense. They were born, they will die. They have atmosphere's and storms just as Earth. They are just as alive as the trees we see outside. Everything to me is alive within this existence.

science never discovers anything. it just observes it for the first time. everything existed long before science and will exist long after science.

the odds are 99.99% that life exists on other worlds.

if you use earth as an example. we arent even the only species on earth, there are literally over a billion different life forms on earth.

I will say this. To those who say that we are "thousands" of years away from space travel (in terms of deep space, to other stars), you may be coming down on the wrong side of things. In the early 1900's no one was even thinking about going to the Moon. Nothing about computers, cell phones, or hell, most cars. Over 100 years later, we have become so dramatically techincally advanced that a person from 1910 would not be able to function in today's world.

Perhaps the idea of a "warp" ( I use it for lack of a better term) drive is hundreds of years off. But we progress faster than we give ourselves credit for. I have no doubt that I will see humans land on Mars in my lifetime (within 20-30 years), so who's to say in 200 or 300 years we won't have the technology to go to Alpha Centuri and back? Or heck, even 100 years? It may not be in our lifetimes, but it's probably not so far off either.

With that being said, as our tech advances, I fully believe that the self destruction capability of our species advances. We are in a very key moment in time where we either have the ability to begin to colonize off planet (effectively providing a safeguard against's Earth's destruction and allowing for the continuation of humans) or the ability to kill everyone on this planet through whatever weapons we should choose. And don't think we won't see things like anti-matter bombs in the future either. If you thought a nuke was scary...

Originally posted by cripmeister

I think it's important to bear in mind that this estimate isn't about complex life. We don't know if complex life can exist through out the Milky Way. The GHZ (Galactic Habitable Zone) theory for example states that complex life is impossible outside a defined circular region of our galaxy. This is thought to be because of radiation, meteor strikes etc. The GHZ is a theory and not necessarily true.

Interesting. I have never heard of this theory before.

Originally posted by SystemResistor
Whats strange is how we only seem to think about these things now. The idea that we are the only life in the universe or that there arent any other planets with intelligent life is on an even par with the belief that the Earth is flat.

Before we did not know the frequency of smaller planets. I always believed personally that there were planets(smaller ones as well) for almost every star but we never had proof so i couldn't say for sure. Now that its been confirmed and i've been waiting many years for this telescope to gather this data. Now we can finally say to all the religions the naysayers the non-believers that our human species and the other living life on our planet, is just a small piece of the puzzle in our very intriguing universe which now seems highly likely to have life commonplace all over

For anyone who is disappointed by this data i feel very sorry for your pathetic soul because this is the most tremendous discovery in space ever (In my opinion). ITS FINALLY BEEN PROVEN.

54 PLANETS IN HABITABLE ZONES and thats only in the first 4 months of data out of 155,000 stars scanned with only a mere 0.6% chance of the solarsystems elliptical plane to be aligned so we can see the transit. So basicallly if you take the number
54( habitable planets) x 0.6% ( Chance To detect planets for every star converted into multiplication number)
so 100 divided by 0.6= 166.6

So 54x166= 9000

that gives exactly 9000 habitable planets per 155,000 stars and this is just the first 4 months of data.

so 9000 habitable ( Jupiters/saturn size planets and its moons, Neptune/Uranus sized and its moons, or earths, super-earths, smaller than earth planets all in the habitable zones of their planets 9000! of them) for only the first 4 months of DATA?

This is the raw numbers if you do the math of the stars they scanned it really is damning.

Also to note as a planet sits farther out in orbit from its sun it might not transit its star because it can be a little off its elliptical plane of the solarsystem so this should increase the number of habitable planets even further ( we just won't detect them)

PREPARE FOR THE NEW AGE.

DENY IGNORANCE
ASCENSION IS COMING

Originally posted by Pimander

Originally posted by XRaDiiX
54 PLANETS IN HABITABLE ZONES and thats only in the first 4 months of data out of 155,000 stars scanned with only a mere 0.6% chance of the solarsystems elliptical plane to be aligned so we can see the transit.
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so 9000 habitable ( Jupiters/saturn size planets and its moons, Neptune/Uranus sized and its moons, or earths, super-earths, smaller than earth planets all in the habitable zones of their planets 9000! of them) for only the first 4 months of DATA?

There is more to this. The habitable zones used for this data are an underestimate. I will repeat what I have said in another post. Remember the habitable zones used for these calculations did not include the outer planets.

What do you mean by the outer planets? i don't understand my math is correct i've been following all the releases for a while. Not to mention i actually am on planethunters website searching for planet transits. Did they not include the ones near the edge of the habitable zone? Or do u mean to say about the data only being 4 months of the data. I clearly stated it was only the first 4 months of data i was referring to as the 9000 habitable planets per 155,000 stars XD peace. I said 9000 planets per 155,000 stars was just the first four months of Data. please expound further on the subject

Originally posted by XRaDiiX
What do you mean by the outer planets?

Sorry, I ordered my thoughts badly there. It wasn't your calculation that is wrong, it's the one in the OP. Sorry mate, I'm tired and better sleep. I will explain in the next day or so when I have slept as I don't want to cause any more confusion.

Must sleep... Gotta go to work in less than 3 hours...

Whoops!

Originally posted by Versa

So far Kepler has found 1,235 candidate planets, with 54 in the Goldilocks zone, where life could possibly exist.

The number is reduced again for 'complex life' and reduced again for 'intelligent life' there are 2 million plus forms of life on earth and only humans have discovered science.

Science isn't a discovery it's a method.. there are certain species of monkey that leave nuts out to dry for a week and then smash them open with rocks; science.
Dolphins that kick 'nets' of silt up around schools of fish and feast in the panic; science.
Knowledge through observation; science.

excellent post !! i am not surprised one would have to be dumb deaf and blind to think 'we' are the only life out there. so much for god creating us, like where that special.... S&F mate yayyyyyyyyyyy