bs or not, at least...five, religions I can think of off the top of my head are basically sun cults, the documentary has a valid point, even if they did fail epically to back up their findings with solid facts instead of...trying to get the point across and failing epically...

ed: before you ask, christianity, paganism, islam, the ancient egyptian religion (horus and those guys) and...the maya believe it or not xD all obsessed with solar phenomena.

Hey, Smart guy. Everyone with the ability to use objective reasoning and research can tell you that the first Zeitgeist was full of # in parts 1 and 3.

Most Zeitgeist conversation today focuses around the viability of the venus project, which remains contentious.

are we talking about the original or one of the many 'edits' here?

Originally posted by kallisti36
These lies are propagated by psuedo-archaeologists and charlatans operating who rely on Biblical, mythological, and historical ignorance to make money.

The text I have quoted from your op can also be said about today's modern religions,but you would also have to add the murder and genocide these religions have perpetrated throughout history.
Believe what you wish.

FYI we are not the center of the universe, just one of the 2000 year old lies.

I hate to be the one to burst your Roxbury bubble, but, Zeitgeist isn't just about religion, or Jesus, or Christianity. Even if that first part of the first movie was completely refuted, which I don't agree that it has been, that would still only be one part of one of three films. Jesus may have been real, but there is no proof, period. That is why proof in Christianity has been suplanted by faith. Live and let live my friend, believe what you want to believe. Think about this, nobody is forcing anyone to conform to those absurd Zeitgeist ideas of reality but for centuries millions of people have been forced to conform to those absurd Christian, Muslim, Judaism ideas. Just sayin...

the thread title says "Zeitgeist totally refuted" but I can't find any video posted on here that talks about 9/11, or the federal reserve, or the income tax, or anything on Zeitgeist Addendum or part 3. So is this just about the defense of Christianity? When I first watched Zeitgeist I did some research on the various gods similar to Jesus, and I found that Zeitgeist took a little bit of creative journalism when comparing all the gods to each other, I think the point was to show the similarities between the different religions. But I don't appreciate people saying Zeitgeist totally refuted when only 1 part of the first video is debated.

You actually can't prove any of your assertions any more or any less than you claim they can't prove theirs. Yet you seem to fail to see the irony in this. The evil side of me hopes this spawns a whole new influx of Zeitgeist BS just to allow you the chance to partake in some lively discussions.

I don't know, but when I came down from the feelgood high after watching the first Zeigeist movie, there was a distinct post-population reduction NWO/Georgia Guidestones type vibe hanging around.
Especially after seeing a video of one of the Rockefekkers doing a speech at one of their gatherings.

I haven't watched the vids above yet, but I will later, when I have more time.

Watched it already.

It's basically calling out bullcrap, while using bullcrap as a debunking method.

It's such a touchy topic with so many different perspectives that has contributed to it over the years, it's literally impossible to get everyone under one conclusion in anything. Why? "because I'm right and your wrong, watch this video".

Who, any sane person, I mean, gives a crap about a religion..Religion is a farce..Just a government by another name..Forget all this mess your parents , teachers, and others have told you. It's all rubbish..get out there and find out the real truth for yourself...Like Bill Cooper said "listen to everyone,believe no-one, and make up your own mind about everything....".I don't give a dam if there is 5 jesus's, 9 budda's,6 krishna's, etc....it has NOTHING to do with me or you.....Forget that mess and live your OWN life......

i watched the first video. soz the arguments are weak. there are similarties between jesus and many other such figures. why do you have a problem with that. why are you claiming zeitgeist totlaly refuted when you videos only touch on small parts of the documentries. I dont have time to watch all the videos it would have been nice if you had put some of your stronger refutes into words...
if you dont mind me asking are you are christian. If so why would you want this debate. Jesus is not something that can be proven or disproven and if you are happy beleiving in him then good for you. You should not take umbridge that others dont and others should not take ubridge if you do.

kx

If you are so sick of hearing about it in threads then why did you create a thread about it in the first place.

"Zeitgeist Totally Refuted". Just a reminder, totally means wholly, fully, nothing left. So would you kindly point me to where this crap you call a vid. actually refutes all of it?

That's right, you can't. In fact it seems you have abandoned your own thread. Mods please move this to the rant section. Thanks.

.....Oh, btw. Don't EVER tell us what we can and can't do.

I'm all for discussion of the finer points here but I don't think anyone is believing that the entire film in each of its many parts and ammendums has been refuted.

I also came back to point out while sun cultism is usually related to the illuminati I do not think that religions or groups of people taking lessons from the stars is generally a bad thing, and of the five religions and groups I mentioned not all of those are anything to do with the illuminati. some blatently are and some are blatently connected, but how and in what aspect is a matter for discussion.

oh yawn, hiss, yawn, hiss... give it a rest will ya? stop being so touchy about your archaic, fraudulent, and no longer relevent religious dogma and customs, which are all ficticiously based upon older myths; please do some real homework before you start barking orders at a forum -- how dare you