CBS News' Lara Logan Assaulted During Egypt Protests

reply to post by WingedBull

I would point her to the 2008 broadcast on the Al-Aribiya network of a female (!) lawyer arguing that it’s OK for Muslim men to sexually assault Israeli women, because the Jews have “raped the land.”

I'll be darn,

I wondered if there was a message being sent, to dishonor the women of the enemy, a tactic done throughout the history of mankind,

Women are the spoils of war, even animals don't behave this way.

reply to post by DuneKnight


Dune, I trust your opinion, and find your take on the subject very informative, I want to ask you,
Do you think this revolution was legit or was it fueled by outside influences?

reply to post by Malcram


You have no reason to be outraged by his comments. The people of that culture (regardless of the people here that defend them) are savage beasts that if left to their own devices will do some of the most horrible things imaginable. This is a culture that teaches women are inferior to men.. Yet you view them as tolerant peace loving people. If this were the case, why are there brutal leaders that seem to lead muslim countries? Saddam in Iraq, Iran, Egypt these are vicious people and the only way to truly deal with them is written into their own religion with Sharia Law.

These are my thoughts anyway. If you don't agree. I could care less. I have been there, I have witnessed it first hand.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I wondered if there was a message being sent, to dishonor the women of the enemy, a tactic done throughout the history of mankind

I don't know about a message being sent but you are otherwise right. War and rape are irrevocably married. It is both a tool of war and a tool of the conquerer against the vanquished. There is no difference here; what happened in Cairo was a war, albeit a cerebral one. The victors turned against someone they saw at least in league with the enemy.

Originally posted by goatfish
Women are the spoils of war, even animals don't behave this way.

But they do. In species were males keep harems of females, a victorious male will often immediately mate with the defeated male's females. Though, to be certain, what humans and what animals do is differentiated by degrees of brutality.

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom The people of ANY culture (regardless of the people here that defend them) are savage beasts that if left to their own devices will do some of the most horrible things imaginable.

There, I fixed it for you.

reply to post by WingedBull

The victors turned against someone they saw at least in league with the enemy.

Yes, I wonder what is bread into mankind that he reacts this way, how did he evolve that this sort of behavior benefits the tribe?

I watched a documentary about WW2, I had no idea there were so many rapes, on German women, estimated a million women by the Red Army.

reply to post by WingedBull


You are absolutely correct in stating in ANY culture, at the moment I was speaking of these people specifically. To be honest the human race as of late is regressing.

Originally posted by WingedBull

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom The people of ANY culture (regardless of the people here that defend them) are savage beasts that if left to their own devices will do some of the most horrible things imaginable.

There, I fixed it for you.

edit on 17-2-2011 by WingedBull because: (no reason given)

If they are left to their own devices wouldn't that imply that there is no culture left for them to be part of?

BAM!
CBS complicit in news coverup (in Lara Logan Incident)

Watching the same complicit media we all saw, Cohen notes most journalists covered the mobs “as if they were reporting from Times Square on New Year’s Eve, stopping only at putting on a party hat.”

Even CBS’s own statement said Logan was “covering the jubilation” and was attacked “amidst the celebration.”

Having 200 “good guys” gang assault a female reporter while screaming “Jew! Jew!” doesn’t fit the narrative. Is that why CBS sat on the story?

By God, if this article by Michael Graham doesn't echo exactly what my original point was a completely validate my opinion on this, nothing does. Finally I get the joy of reading someone in the media actually verbalizing the same questions, concerns, and frustrations as I have felt ever since day one of this staged "coup." Mark my words on this, in the coming months and years we will discover the truth around this revolution and that truth will expose that it was never about the people of Egypt wanting democracy, freedom, and the ouster of Mubarak... it was about the globalist leaders seeing Mubarak as a less controlable puppet than they wished him to be, smoke & mirrors, and a fully pliable media machine that reported the atory with precisely the spin the global elites instructed them to report it with.

reply to post by Doom and Gloom


You represent something a million times more vile than anything in Egypt . . . .Racism and ethnocentric bigotry of the most depraved kind.

Such things go on all over the world, particularly in the US, and for you to determine that “those people” are some how lesser than you is the height of ignorance and the most vile bigotry even worst that even the Nazis can exhibit.

It is you who are uncivilized and the cause of things like this rape!

reply to post by Doom and Gloom


The human race is regressing becasue of mentalities like yours!

Originally posted by inforeal
You represent something a million times more vile than anything in Egypt . . . .Racism and ethnocentric bigotry of the most depraved kind.

Such things go on all over the world, particularly in the US, and for you to determine that “those people” are some how lesser than you is the height of ignorance and the most vile bigotry even worst that even the Nazis can exhibit.

That is like saying that we were showing racism and ethnocentric bigotry against the Germans when we declared that Nazism was barbaric and the scourge of Nazism needed to be wiped from Europe.

At that time, Nazism was fully ingrained in the German culture. To denounce it was to be a bigot against their culture. As it is to say that condemning a religion, or culture is being racist.

The politically correct response to someone saying that “the scourge of Nazism needed to be wiped from Europe” Would be to lock them up for hate speech, and remind everyone else that “All Nazis don’t want to kill us, just a small minority. We can’t condemn a whole group of people for what a few at the top did.”

It is the equivalent of cultural suicide. Just lay our self out and let them flatten us.

It is not them as people that is the problem. It is what they teach!!!!!!!

If we can not call into question what they teach, then there is no way to address the problem in the first place, so all this discussion is pointless.

The politically correct get after us on a day to day basis for daring to teach about this or that…… Well get after them for once!!!!!!!!! Ow that’s right…….. the reason they don’t, is because if they did, they will go after them with guns and axes…… But we won’t, so they hound us to submission while not uttering a word in protest to what the other people are doing…………..

Typical...........

CBS sat on this story bigtime...

And to the the others,,,by no means we are jumping the gun on this...

This was not just a mad group of 200 people who did this among the 1000's upon 1000's of watheres there,,,

And why is it there were some other egyption(s) women in the crowd yet they decided to rape her,,,???

strange,,,kinda throws off just a nomad 200 man group that floats/walks in and rapes her,,,they singled her out!!

This filth raped her for being a infidel,,western,non-muslim,,,,....

Im not racist saying that either,,,just the truth..

in honesty,,do any of them feel ashamed???
No.


Is Egypt all bad..
No

I assume the most violent crimes will be happening soon,,,,

I bet there were massive rapes,,,,,!

McGiver here probly lives next to one of there bubble domes and befriended many...

I may be small but I am A WATCHER!!!!

Kona

Rape is a horrendous crime. Not question about it.


However, if you can't emotionally or physically cope with the dangers of your job....you shouldn't be in it. It didn't take an ounce of common sense to realize that the situation was potentially dangerous. If she agreed to be there, she is taking a risk and should be prepared for that risk AND ALL IT ENTAILS.

For what its worth, I feel the same about women soldiers. They have my utmost respect and support....but if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Peace.

reply to post by Malcram


But you can't even quote one source from egypt that shows any egyptian there felt anything about a woman being brutalized? Do you see why people are skeptical of the motives of muslims? Does no one in egypt care that there are monsters among them? Notice the link you gave, he resigned from his job and issued a public apology. Can anyone in egypt say the same?

reply to post by ohioriver


'Can't'?

I didn't post examples because others did. But you clearly haven't read all the posts.

So, here it is again:

Egyptian activists comdemn brutal attack

The idea that you cant imagine anyone in Egypt comdemning this attack or feeling compassion for the victim speaks volumes about your twisted notions of Egyptians and Muslims in general. You don't even ascribe them humanity, which rather casts doubt on the quality of your own.

reply to post by ohioriver


Your logic is amazingly lacking, for it was Egyptians that saved her.
www.good.is...

You do realize that gang rape goes on world wide, don’t you?

Bill Maher Slams Muslim Men’s Treatment Of Women, Gets Heckled By Audience Member

www.mediaite.com...

There was some unrest in the Real Time with Bill Maher audience tonight, as one spectator had to be removed from the premises after heckling Maher while the host ripped Muslim countries for their treatment of women – and letting the security guards who escorted him out hear it as well.

Maher was having it out with Tavis Smiley over relative treatment of women in Muslim countries and American society – Smiley didn’t argue that Muslim countries often exhibit poor attitudes toward women, but argued treatment of women in America has a long way to go, too. Maher called it a “false equivalency,” and it went on from there…until the yelling started coming from the crowd. Video of the segment below – the interruption begins at the 5:32 mark.

Originally posted by inforeal
reply to post by ohioriver

 

Your logic is amazingly lacking, for it was Egyptians that saved her.
www.good.is...

You do realize that gang rape goes on world wide, don’t you?

Yes I do realize that. But it is not a social norm. We do not require that a womans testimony against her assailants is only half as valuable as a man's. Rape victims are not stoned because they were raped. No it was other women that saved her. Out of 200+ plus mob not one man stepped up to save her. What does that say about Egyptian culture? Has anyone came forward to bring to justice those monsters who did this? They can condemn it all they want for the news media, but unless someone comes forward then yes I will have my doubts .200 person mob is quite large. In one area. Surrounded by thousands of other egyptians. And no group of men stepped forward to stop them.

Originally posted by Malcram
reply to post by ohioriver

 

'Can't'?

I didn't post examples because others did. But you clearly haven't read all the posts.

So, here it is again:

Egyptian activists comdemn brutal attack

The idea that you cant imagine anyone in Egypt comdemning this attack or feeling compassion for the victim speaks volumes about your twisted notions of Egyptians and Muslims in general. You don't even ascribe them humanity, which rather casts doubt on the quality of your own.

www.guardian.co.uk...

A survey by the independent Egyptian Centre for Women's Rights in 2008, however, revealed that 83% of Egyptian women and 98% of foreign women had been exposed to some form of sexual harassment, including groping, verbal abuse, stalking and indecent exposure.

And you don't think the men over there are monsters? That is almost the entire female population of egypt! Sure we have sexual harassment over here too but just not on such a grand scale.