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Originally posted by shagula
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by GeminiSky
Alright ! You've got an excellent thread going here. Work, for me is a natural thing, I'm talking hard labor here.
Outdoors in the sunshine of So Calif. I love it..However, the fact that I, have to woirk, for a living ,just because I live on this Earth, for me, is really a messed up way of existence. I believe in the Good Lord and I know, this world is an abomination, to what, he once looked upon and said," it is good". God wouldn't make a place like this. I know that in my heart.
SnFedit on 12-2-2011 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
So wait... you just wan't to... 'exist'? Not have to do... anything? What would you possibly contribute if your 'God' gave you EVERYTHING? You HAVE to be able to give back, to prosper, to learn and grow... that's what everything in nature is about. The way we've developed it for our own life is different than a plant's, but it's ALL THE SAME THING. How would you ever become stronger spiritually, if you don't contribute, give, learn what you and yourself need while helping others?
Originally posted by kroms33
Little do they realize, work everywhere has the same ethics... compliance to a broken system.
edit on 2/12/2011 by kroms33 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ghostsoldier78
It is absolutely unnatural. I'm 33 and been working since I was 17 at a wide range of jobs. Everything from the Army to manufacturing to painting houses to surveying etc etc. And they all have one thing in comon. Every day that you show up to work, youre walking into a dictatorship. The company can make and enforce their own rules. And can always make new ones to suit their needs as they arise. I was always told that if you learn your craft, be professional, work hard, you move up and thats how you make a better living for yourself. The truth is you can work hard all you want, the man is gonna move up his friends, family and whoever sucks up the most to him. Things like seniority and time and energy spent, or knowledge of the jobs mean nothing at all. The smarter you are and the quicker you catch on the worse it seems, and the more the bossman is intimidated by you. I would much rather work for myself, but how am I supposed to find something I love and invest time and money in it when I'm caught up with just paying the bills and putting food on the table? I have no cellphone, a 20 year old pickup, a small rgb tv to watch the weather on in the mornings, I live very modestly and learned long ago that things mean absolutely nothing in the end. Work, eat, sleep, work, eat sleep. I like many others do not have a rich family member or Bill Gates as a friend to loan me money, so what am I supposed to do? Keep on working for the dictators.
Job is an acronym for just over broke, you'll never get ahead. If you get ahead you might actually decide to quit the rat race for a while and the company just cant have that. Gotta keep you needing money every week so you'll drag yourself to the zombiemill workplace everyday.
I would much rather work for myself, hunting/fishing/gardening for my food and making everything that I needed. but the only way that will work is if you have a "village" of sorts where everyone did this. So anyone on here want to start a tribe?edit on 12-2-2011 by ghostsoldier78 because: (no reason given)
I understand that in the past man had to find food, build shelter, fend off enemies, etc.. to ensure his family's survival.
And one may argue that in today's modern world, working in exchange for money so that an individual can secure shelter and food is the same thing, but I just can help feeling that this isnt how we were meant to live.
I recently started a new sales job, and while the pay is good, the hours are inhumane... most days we work from 9am to 9pm and only get 30 min for lunch! While observing my new found co-workers, I noticed that they have all become complacent, and dont even go out for lunch, they just sit in their cubicles munching on unhealthy junk food.
But my point is, no matter how much you make, you will still be dedicating 1/2 of your life to work, another 1/4 to sleep, and 1/4 is left for EVERYTHING else which includes errands, traffic, getting to and from work. By the time you are 65 yrs old, you have only really LIVED for about 5 years, in which you could do what YOU WANTED to do.
Originally posted by Blazer
If you were dumped off into the wilderness and your only job was to survive, you would be surprised at how much work that is. Just finding drinkable water can take you a day. Think you are frustrated getting paid $50 an hour to sit in an air conditioned office cubicle and surf facebook in between phone calls? Try spending 2 days hunting elusive prey animals while your stomach is growling and your hands trembling from hunger. Hate that alarm clock going off at 6am for you to start your day? Try not being able to sleep because you keep hearing something moving around in the woods near your camp. Think it's unfair when your boss confronts you about you not meeting your deadlines? Try having a black bear confront you because she wants to rip out your liver and feed it to her cubs.
Yes, living modern life is not "natural", but consider the alternative, and be careful what you wish for.
Genesis 1:26-30, "Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so."
Genesis 3:17-19, "To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”"