Why left-wing protestors tend to riot

Originally posted by dolphinfan
The challenge the left has is that there are groups of people who just protest. They are anarchists, don't work and just swing from protest to protest, get smoked up, liquored up and turn violent. Its what they do and they tarnish the legitimate and appropriate protests that come from the left.

Actually these people are known as "cops." Though you do have their goals well pegged

I think the difference is that the average leftist is more passive than the average protester on the right. When thugs show up at a conservative protest they get hammered out of there.

Considering that conservatives tend to use "thug" as a code word for "black guy"...

The left would have reasonable protests if they sought out these thugs and gave them a bit of curbside justice. Then perhaps they would be able to have their voices heard.

Then we get sent to prison for assaulting an officer

Wait.

People still use the left/right paradigm?

Originally posted by Ozscot


The Police are a Conservative 'gathering'.

I understand that the left considers the police fascists. The police are the only force standing in the way of the left doing as Che Guevara said:

“If any person has a good word for the previous government that is good enough for me to have him shot.”

Originally posted by Sinnthia

That is rather interesting logic.

Is that like all them pesky women that go around making their husbands punch them?

In protests the left has, globally, left a trail of damage and mayhem. Thats the only reason tear-gas is used. Violence begets violence.

Originally posted by dolphinfan
reply to post by lucid eyes

 

I don't actually think the rank and file left are any different than the right when it comes to protests. The challenge the left has is that there are groups of people who just protest. They are anarchists, don't work and just swing from protest to protest, get smoked up, liquored up and turn violent. Its what they do and they tarnish the legitimate and appropriate protests that come from the left.

Your analysis is fair toward the left. However, in reading the replies in this thread, we can also see that some define police, law, order themselves as "the enemy". Those are the ones that turn violent.

Originally posted by LordBaskettIV
It seems that some people here don't know what they are talking about. Please review these images.

Only communists or conspiracists would view Obama and Clinton as "right-wingers". Reality is a little different.

Originally posted by Marulo
If find categorizing people in vague groups like liberal or conservative to be a mistake.

Those folks categorize themselves in those groups.

Originally posted by sara123123
I have come to the conclusion that it is not even possible to reconcile the ambitions of the Left with the ambitions of Conservatives. Socialism guarentees the death of the constitutional Republic, property rights and individual rights. The constitution guarentees the death of socialism.

We should peacefully split into two countries. One free and one socialist so everyone can have what they want and stop working against one another. Really, socialism is not reconcilable with constitutional liberty and we are just tearing each other and the Nation apart trying to make it work.

I agree partially. But if you give socialists their own country, they become a problem from outside, like the Soviet Union. Thats because their mentality dictates to impose their socialism on others.

Originally posted by Sinnthia

Let me get this straight. This person spends a LOT of time and effort calling all liberals child rape supporters.

Got any evidence to back up your outrageous attempt at character-assassination?

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Right-wing protest is peaceful for two reasons.

1) Ten geriatrics aren't going to cause much of a ruckus, no matter what their cause is.

With age comes wisdom.

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Yep, we have plenty of blind ideologue rhetoric on both sides.

When they dont get what they want, children start to riot.

G20 Protests in Toronto
WTO Protests in Seattle
The Weathermen
PETA Riots
Code Pink Riots

and thousands more are evidence of this.

You're comparing left wing extremists (Black Bloc, or whatever the American equivalent is) with middle-aged hotdog eaters.

Compare them with real right wing extremists, neo-Nazis for instance. You think those are not violent and destructive?

While I don't like extremism and violence, I would rather be caught in the middle of a left-wing demo, than in the middle of a neo-nazi demo. No exceptions whatsoever.

Besides, extremists are always a small fraction of either political scene, and they don't represent the majority. The average person with left political views doesn't set cars on fire and all that.

Originally posted by Wallachian
You're comparing left wing extremists (Black Bloc, or whatever the American equivalent is) with middle-aged hotdog eaters.

Compare them with real right wing extremists, neo-Nazis for instance. You think those are not violent and destructive?

I think there's a numbers issue. there just aren't enough neo-nazis/klansmen to be a factor. if five thousand of those guys gathered then, yes, you'd have violent right-wing extremist scum, but 40-50 is negligible. I suspect the Philly cops arrest that many fans after a typical Eagles game.
so I don't deny that there are violent right-wing extremist scum, I think there aren't enough to be a factor.

Originally posted by works4dhs
imho liberals substitute politics for religion, hence the emotional frenzy.

I'm sorry, but you lost the right to make that argument decades ago when Reagan effectively turned the republican party into an offshoot of the Christian church.

reply to post by lucid eyes


You know nothing of protests. You are spoon fed information. You chose to accept that information because it reinforces your beliefs. I have been at a few protests, and whatever you think you know about them is wrong. You can claim that the protesters are violent, but it is rarely so clear cut. Want to learn what really happens read my thread from my own experieces.

Anyway I also challenge the assumption that violent dissent is not a necessary at times.

RIGHT/LEFT PARADIGM!!!
You can show that each side is a violent, and extremely dangerous group. Pat yourself on the back. Your side is better. Congratulations while you were proving that other side is bad your country fell. How long will we run in circles? Would you rather lose your country of grow up?

reply to post by lucid eyes


Oh, what's that? Only the left view police officers as "the enemy"?

Originally posted by lucid eyes
In protests the left has, globally, left a trail of damage and mayhem. Thats the only reason tear-gas is used. Violence begets violence.

I am having a hard time understanding your logic here. If violence only comes from violence, then what violence are all them lefties responding to? Make that makes sense for me.

I am curious if you have covered the civil rights movement in school yet?

Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by Sinnthia

Let me get this straight. This person spends a LOT of time and effort calling all liberals child rape supporters.

Got any evidence to back up your outrageous attempt at character-assassination?

Actually, quite a bit.
Not only did you spend at least 20 pages stating just that, you made it the title.Liberal Elite perform mass child-rape Please take some time to read the arguments put forth in that thread. You go so far as to list 0.000016% of all liberals in the US and claim that means that all US liberals supported Polanski when you know that 0.000016% actually just really equals 0.000016%. Obviously there is a clear agenda here to just label liberals as anything evil you can. I hope it works out better for you this time.


Anything else?

reply to post by lucid eyes

A constitutionally free America and it's people, would be able to handle Marxism and the little sister, fascist socialism (corporatism) now that we have a history of our own to see what it does to liberty and happiness and no government and private socialist power structure to airbrush the memory away from history. The US has been on a journey to hell in a hand-basket that will provide a multitude of lessons for future generations of free people.

One of the few roles of a constitutional Federal government is defense and border protection. We would be able to have private legal, political, cultural and educational institutions that socialize Americans to be free, independent, self governing and thinking people as they once were outside Marxist/fascist circles. That is what made America strong and successful to begin with.

Our generation has ridden on the backs of free Americans. We rode it into the ground thanks to decades of internationalist, fascist and Marxist re-education, foreign entanglements, secret societies, treason and deception. Anti-constitutional and anti-West Americans hate everything about constitutional freedom and have worked as termites on the legal, political and cultural foundation of this country for decades. They have succeeded in that destruction now and look to move to create a Marxist/Fascist New World Order.

I don't really care what the new socialist nation does once Americans who want to be free, are released from the oppression of their struggle for "progress" in a post constitutional New World Order. A reborn constitutional Republic will stand as an alternative for the world to the corruption, oppression and competition between Fascism and Marxism. We will recover a good and independent character among the majority of self determining people and be a trust worthy, strong and independent as a Nation once again.

I think it would work to have a peaceful separation of the country. The Leftists often talk about separating the nation when they are out of power so Constitutionalists could move to do it when they are raging and out of power. A few years of planning would be needed for the equitable separation and establishment of the new Nations.