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Why left-wing protestors tend to riot

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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 03:51 PM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by redhorse
I think both sides are equally prone to either frankly.


Then show me a conservative gathering in which the police had to use tear gas against protesters.


That's more of a testament of how right-leaning the authority is in whatever nation the riot is in. It's not like the protesters are throwing the tear gas. My goodness.




posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by works4dhs

1) as noted, the lefties tend to be younger, hence more excitable and emotional
2) older/conservative types more self-controlled.
3) 'traditional values' of restraint and respect for people/property on the right. lefties, not so much.
4) anger and rage on the left, concern on the right. by definition, takes a lot of 'concern' to get people out in the street.
5) conservatives are more likely to be working for a living. lefties, not so much. yes, this is a generaliztion, but I think well founded. think; college students vs active-duty military.


Excellent analysis of reality.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo

That's more of a testament of how right-leaning the authority is in whatever nation the riot is in. It's not like the protesters are throwing the tear gas. My goodness.


So the use of tear-gas does not show how violent the protesters are, but how violent the police is? OK, I guess one could see it that way.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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I would reply to this, but it would more then likely just inflame those that refuse to see the truth.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by Cuervo
This isn't a very good connection. You show me an out-of-control rioting liberal and I'll show you two right-winged bubba-effected gun-toting domestic terrorists.



Now now.
No need to drag bubba into this. He's at home minding his own business while the liberal is out throwing molotov cocktails at the riot police.

Unfortunately...after reading this thread...I'd have to say that the OP's premise has been, in a small way, justified by the emotional response by most of the liberal members.

It seems that he was, in a none too subtle way, implying that an emotional response is typically more violent than a response based on logic. He goes on to say that the liberal seems to base decisions more on emotion than on logic.

Wether true or not, the resulting responses have given an indicator that in some cases he would be correct.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by redhorse
I think both sides are equally prone to either frankly.


Then show me a conservative gathering in which the police had to use tear gas against protesters.


That is rather interesting logic.

Is that like all them pesky women that go around making their husbands punch them?



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by badgerprints
Wether true or not, the resulting responses have given an indicator that in some cases he would be correct.


Let me get this straight. This person spends a LOT of time and effort calling all liberals child rape supporters. This same person even goes to the lengths of lying specifically about ATS posters and claiming they support child rape. This other thread that is insulting on so many levels goes on sans logic for pages and pages and pages.

Then this same person starts a thread calling all liberals violent and gets some emotional responses. This to you is vindication of the point? To me it seems more like whining about getting exactly what they have been asking for. It doesn't take a crystal ball, just a mouse.
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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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I don't actually think the rank and file left are any different than the right when it comes to protests. The challenge the left has is that there are groups of people who just protest. They are anarchists, don't work and just swing from protest to protest, get smoked up, liquored up and turn violent. Its what they do and they tarnish the legitimate and appropriate protests that come from the left.

Several years ago when Seattle was torn apart during the WTO protests it was uncovered that the gent who largely organized the violent elements of that was some 25 year old rich kid who lives on a ranch in Oregon. He has a bunch of folks who travel with him and they just go and raise hell for the fun of it. The gent's loaded.

I think the difference is that the average leftist is more passive than the average protester on the right. When thugs show up at a conservative protest they get hammered out of there. When they show up at a leftist protest, they are somehow able to integrate into the scene.

The left would have reasonable protests if they sought out these thugs and gave them a bit of curbside justice. Then perhaps they would be able to have their voices heard.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes

"Palin is a f***cking retard" - Stephen Colbert

"small towns, that’s the part of the country she really likes going to because that’s the pro-America part of the country. You know, I just want to say to her, just very quickly: F***ck you" - John Steward



I am confused...How does saying the F word equate to rioting? If that was the case Dick Cheney would have been arrested years ago. His entire dialogue with the opposition consisted of "Go F Yourself"..

BTW - This is the political madness forum, not the political retarded forum.

Your OP is unsubstantiated, non-sensical, political baiting ...Rioting is a product of public Anger and can be motivated by oppression, hunger, injustice, desperation and a dozen other factors, but there is nothing left/right about a riot.

Dumb OP.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by works4dhs

what gun-toting right-wing terrorists? I am not aware of any conservative/right terrorist acts in the US in the last 50 years aside from T McVeigh. as the op opined, Tea Party functions were the epitome of civil actions.


Well, acording to the FBI:




Eight of the 14 recorded terrorism preventions stemmed from right- wing extremism, and included disruptions to plotting by individuals involved with the militia, white supremacist, constitutionalist and tax protestor, and anti- abortion movements.


Source:Huffington Post From April 2009



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 05:12 PM
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It seems that some people here don't know what they are talking about. Please review these images.




Republican or democrat, chances are you are a fascist...or at least vote fascist as you are not given any real choice. Fascists love them some riots.
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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by redhorse
I think both sides are equally prone to either frankly.


Then show me a conservative gathering in which the police had to use tear gas against protesters.


The Police are a Conservative 'gathering'.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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If find categorizing people in vague groups like liberal or conservative to be a mistake. Belief is dictated by experience. An individuals action is dictated by experience. It is not dictated by their ideology, that is also dictated by experience. I am aware of ideologies, but I am not aware of the individuals experience. As to why someone would protest in a violent manner? Well something they experienced has led them to that action. Are they right? Well that is circumstantial. Che Guevara experienced a brutish reality, so I am not surprised to hear his cold language.

Che was right and wrong. Anger and hate can certainly topple a powerful regime if it channeled correctly. Love and peace can also topple a government if channeled correctly.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Marulo
If find categorizing people in vague groups like liberal or conservative to be a mistake. Belief is dictated by experience. An individuals action is dictated by experience. It is not dictated by their ideology, that is also dictated by experience. I am aware of ideologies, but I am not aware of the individuals experience. As to why someone would protest in a violent manner? Well something they experienced has led them to that action. Are they right? Well that is circumstantial. Che Guevara experienced a brutish reality, so I am not surprised to hear his cold language.

Che was right and wrong. Anger and hate can certainly topple a powerful regime if it channeled correctly. Love and peace can also topple a government if channeled correctly.



Wow... very astute. Without taking experience into account, it is impossible to paint nor accurately envision a person's motives. You're a smart one, you.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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1) as noted, the lefties tend to be younger, hence more excitable and emotional
2) older/conservative types more self-controlled.
3) 'traditional values' of restraint and respect for people/property on the right. lefties, not so much.
4) anger and rage on the left, concern on the right. by definition, takes a lot of 'concern' to get people out in the street.
5) conservatives are more likely to be working for a living. lefties, not so much. yes, this is a generaliztion, but I think well founded. think; college students vs active-duty military.


1. I agree. It seems younger people tend to lean on the left.
2. Unfounded. I see no reason to make that assumption. Anyone, despite their ideology, can be self-controlled.
3. Respect for property is a conservative tradition. Respect for human life, I hope, is a human tradition. The notion of property is intrinsically unfair, that is if you consider other human beings. If you do not respect life, particularly humans, you are scum.
4. Unfounded. No reason to make this assumption. Evidence of rage and anger is on all sides.
5. What? Are we not all working for a living to a certain extent? Or do you mean people who receive salaries vs minimum wage? People who benefit from society tend to be conservative. People who do not benefit tend to be liberal. This is not always the case.
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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 05:42 PM
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Yes. I like how you put it. Very clear.

We must consider someones experience before we judge them. Unfortunately, I can't even do that most of the time.
Humans are just flawed I suppose.


Edit: Also thank you for your compliment.
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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 07:36 PM
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"Why left-wing protestors tend to riot?"

This is a biased question. It is like I was asking you "Why do you beat your wife?"

Truth is that, based on international observation, protestors tendency to riot seems to be unrelated on whether they are left wing or right wing.
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posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by Doomzilla
If i protest i ALSO protest peacefully - However I am neither left or right wing , I do not subscribe to this false paradigm , Therefore to me and others your op is flawed ,




Uh" dood"...check out your avatar that's a u.s.military .30 m1carbine.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 11:24 PM
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The Left orchestrated riots in the cities in the 60's and 70's. All it accomplished was a bunch of murders and burning down a bunch of poor people's neighborhoods. The rest of the country did not look fondly on the violence and destructiveness.

I have come to the conclusion that it is not even possible to reconcile the ambitions of the Left with the ambitions of Conservatives. Socialism guarentees the death of the constitutional Republic, property rights and individual rights. The constitution guarentees the death of socialism.

We should peacefully split into two countries. One free and one socialist so everyone can have what they want and stop working against one another. Really, socialism is not reconcilable with constitutional liberty and we are just tearing each other and the Nation apart trying to make it work.



posted on Feb, 9 2011 @ 11:35 PM
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Right-wing protest is peaceful for two reasons.

1) Ten geriatrics aren't going to cause much of a ruckus, no matter what their cause is.

2) Right-wing protests tend to suckle at the teat of corporate statism. Thus these protests are no threat to the status quo. The police don't show up in army gear, the national guard are not put on alert, nothing happens, because these guys are stooges happily tongue-washing the balls of their oppressors. By contrast, we on the left tend to be the ones engaging in peaceful protest, only to have our faces gassed and our knees busted. We ain't saints, and plenty of you would get pissed too.

Besides, right-wingers prefer to just murder or bomb who they don't like, rather than speak against them.
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