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Originally posted by notsoperfect
reply to post by 2manyquestions
I don't think a homeless person can escape to Norway without a dime in his hand. It is a hell of a freedom.
Originally posted by Dachende
Originally posted by detachedindividual
Amazing pictures. It's a shame they won't rise up against their dictators like other nations are right now.
It's such a beautiful country. Such a shame that it's being stolen from the rest of the world, and from its own people.
Well hell you better get the rest of your american buddies and jump in there quick smart !!!! it's about time they had american ideals shoved down their throats like iraq and afghanistan...
Originally posted by notsoperfect
reply to post by 2manyquestions
Some times poor families live happier with everybody sharing what they have. Wealth alone is not the measure of the happiness.
reply to post by 2manyquestions
To live in a "Free" society doesn't mean you have the freedom or access to everything you've ever desired. It means you are responsible for yourself.
Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Originally posted by notsoperfect
reply to post by 2manyquestions
I don't think a homeless person can escape to Norway without a dime in his hand. It is a hell of a freedom.
We are free to make our own decisions here. What reason is this man or woman homeless? Are they homeless because they have an addiction problem and they spend every dime on vodka or crack? Maybe they've committed a terrible crime and can't obtain a job to feed themselves. Or maybe they are mentally ill, in which case they belong in a hospital where they can be treated. Not everyone's life is going to be perfect even in a free society. To live in a "Free" society doesn't mean you have the freedom or access to everything you've ever desired. It means you are responsible for yourself. Sometimes we're dealt a bad hand life, whether that was due to our poor choices and actions, or maybe due to the actions of someone else. If a homeless person really wanted to go live in Norway, one way to do that would be to clean themselves up at the homeless shelter, go to the unemployment office and look for a job, any job just to start. This is a hypothetical situation, you provided no specifics why this hypothetical person is homeless, so I can't offer a detailed solution.
Originally posted by notsoperfect
reply to post by 2manyquestions
To live in a "Free" society doesn't mean you have the freedom or access to everything you've ever desired. It means you are responsible for yourself.
The problem is that the system doesn't allow you to become responsible for yourself. Because the system is designed to make the ones who are in control to dominate. Sooner or later 90 percent of the population will have nothing to do to earn living because of the automation pushed by the profit oriented business, not that it is bad, but it is inevitable. We need a different social and political system very soon.
Originally posted by veryinteresting
That is the view of North Korea that they allow outsiders to see. The following video shows a very different scene.
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by Cuervo
Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Originally posted by notsoperfect
reply to post by 2manyquestions
I don't think a homeless person can escape to Norway without a dime in his hand. It is a hell of a freedom.
We are free to make our own decisions here. What reason is this man or woman homeless? Are they homeless because they have an addiction problem and they spend every dime on vodka or crack? Maybe they've committed a terrible crime and can't obtain a job to feed themselves. Or maybe they are mentally ill, in which case they belong in a hospital where they can be treated. Not everyone's life is going to be perfect even in a free society. To live in a "Free" society doesn't mean you have the freedom or access to everything you've ever desired. It means you are responsible for yourself. Sometimes we're dealt a bad hand life, whether that was due to our poor choices and actions, or maybe due to the actions of someone else. If a homeless person really wanted to go live in Norway, one way to do that would be to clean themselves up at the homeless shelter, go to the unemployment office and look for a job, any job just to start. This is a hypothetical situation, you provided no specifics why this hypothetical person is homeless, so I can't offer a detailed solution.
Wow... you have a rather offensive take homelessness in America. Many people are homeless because they are jobless, their mortgages unfairly raised, school loans, medical bills, etc. If it makes people feel better not helping homeless people by thinking they "did it to themselves", then be my guest. It's funny that you use Norway as an example because they have virtually zero homelessness, free healthcare, free education, heavily regulated banking practices, same freedoms, and, no... they don't want us there.
Oh, and your fried from NK you were talking about. Was he there right after the Eastern Bloc fell or after the Arduous March? I just find it hard to believe he was hungry there recently. After they got back on their feet after the fall of the Bloc, they've been able to stabilize their food resources.
Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Originally posted by Cuervo
Originally posted by 2manyquestions
Originally posted by notsoperfect
reply to post by 2manyquestions
I don't think a homeless person can escape to Norway without a dime in his hand. It is a hell of a freedom.
We are free to make our own decisions here. What reason is this man or woman homeless? Are they homeless because they have an addiction problem and they spend every dime on vodka or crack? Maybe they've committed a terrible crime and can't obtain a job to feed themselves. Or maybe they are mentally ill, in which case they belong in a hospital where they can be treated. Not everyone's life is going to be perfect even in a free society. To live in a "Free" society doesn't mean you have the freedom or access to everything you've ever desired. It means you are responsible for yourself. Sometimes we're dealt a bad hand life, whether that was due to our poor choices and actions, or maybe due to the actions of someone else. If a homeless person really wanted to go live in Norway, one way to do that would be to clean themselves up at the homeless shelter, go to the unemployment office and look for a job, any job just to start. This is a hypothetical situation, you provided no specifics why this hypothetical person is homeless, so I can't offer a detailed solution.
Wow... you have a rather offensive take homelessness in America. Many people are homeless because they are jobless, their mortgages unfairly raised, school loans, medical bills, etc. If it makes people feel better not helping homeless people by thinking they "did it to themselves", then be my guest. It's funny that you use Norway as an example because they have virtually zero homelessness, free healthcare, free education, heavily regulated banking practices, same freedoms, and, no... they don't want us there.
Oh, and your fried from NK you were talking about. Was he there right after the Eastern Bloc fell or after the Arduous March? I just find it hard to believe he was hungry there recently. After they got back on their feet after the fall of the Bloc, they've been able to stabilize their food resources.
Why do so many people think that any place where you don't have to swipe a credit card is "Free"??? I don't understand this mentality. These people pay taxes all their lives. They pay for all these services through the nose. They may not receive a bill in the mail, but they get billed by their Government every paycheck. Nothing is Free! Especially Government aid. That never comes free. If our Government decided to raise our taxes that high and promised all sorts of services, the outrage would be almost too much to stand.
I don't have a negative view of all the homeless, I just think that many homeless people ended up being homeless because of bad choices in life. There are those who are temporarily homeless (lost their job and house to the current economy), or those who are homeless because they ran away from abusive homes. Maybe they had untreated mental problems, who knows. It could be any number of reasons. Why are we even on this subject, and whoever said I never helped a homeless person??? There are no homeless people in Norway? Since when? Homelessness in Norway
As for this man who told his story, he escaped in 2005.
Originally posted by Deaf Alien
Sometimes it makes you think
if they can't see outside their boxes due to propaganda and crap...
what makes the rest of us think we are any different?
Originally posted by notsoperfect
reply to post by Cuervo
In NK, 100 percent of your work effort goes to the government. That means 100 percent tax. What about that?
No incentives to work harder. But if the society is run by mechanical automation, why does anybody have to work harder?