Inside North Korea, Photos You Haven't Seen

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posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by MMPI2
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That communal hippy way of living or farming or whatever it is called doesnt seem so bad to me. K.I.S.S.


I'm sure that the Norks would love to have you renounce your current citizenship and come over to their country and reside in that "communal hippy way of living or farming."

go ahead. let us know how it works out for you.





knew that one was coming before I even hit "reply" not surprising




posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by veryinteresting
That is the view of North Korea that they allow outsiders to see. The following video shows a very different scene.

www.youtube.com...


Thanks for the link,

So why the hell does the US see this Dickensian hovel as such a threat ??? They got oil ?





posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 01:59 PM
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Why was it taken down, anybody know?

Someone should go to NK with a High-Def hidden camera, that would probably reveal a lot. I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.
edit on 29-1-2011 by mossme89 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by dl2one

Originally posted by MMPI2
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That communal hippy way of living or farming or whatever it is called doesnt seem so bad to me. K.I.S.S.


I'm sure that the Norks would love to have you renounce your current citizenship and come over to their country and reside in that "communal hippy way of living or farming."

go ahead. let us know how it works out for you.





knew that one was coming before I even hit "reply" not surprising



Didn't you know?! You can't appreciate anything any other nation does that may be functional without also subscribing to their nationhood! Duh! This is 'Merica, we don't take kindly to observational education. Next, you are gonna wanna start using that socialist "metric" system all those commies use. Budweiser, blue jeans, and Nascar... stay within that scope and you will not find opposition.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Weeeden
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Thanks for posting that.. I'm fascinated by pictures of North Korea. I always watch documentaries about it when I see them on tv... I can't even imagine living a life like that!


WHy? It's nicer there than it is in detroit.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by WeRpeons
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These poor people are so secluded from reality they probably have no clue what it's like outside their borders.


Unfortunately for the majority of the Korean people, I think these photos, etc. reflect their reality. If the starvation rates are even fractionally correct, an average westerner's life would be a fantasy existence.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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Excrement sells like hot cakes over there due to the severe starvation crisis.
A journalist was once threatened to be thrown out of the country because he didn't give the statue of Kim Il Sung enough respect.
A doctor from Naples came and healed the eyes of many poor and unhealthy North Koreans. They didn't thank him. Instead, they bowed down and worshipped pictures of Kim Jong Il AND Kim Il Sung thanking them and praising them.
Those who escape the North to China are usually captured, sent back and are either sent to a concentration camp or executed.
Water mines are in the river between North and South...many North Koreans attempt to escape but they end up exploding in the water.
If you do escape North Korea, your family is sent to a camp to be tortured or executed.

North Korea. The worst place on Earth.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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Notice how over half the users in this thread are blaming the West or talking about how the West wants to corrupt North Korea's country. Some even say it reminds them of America. It's hilarious.
North Korea's Grand Landscape is pure because the Grand Leader of All, or whatever they call him, saves them from the evil world!



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by mossme89
Why was it taken down, anybody know?

Someone should go to NK with a High-Def hidden camera, that would probably reveal a lot. I'm surprised it hasn't been done already.
edit on 29-1-2011 by mossme89 because: (no reason given)


Why are you surprised? Journalists are barley allowed in the country. You're not even allowed to film anywhere in North Korea without the governments permission. To capture the villages of starving men, women and children around the country on camera, you'd be risking your life. Thankfully, some have come out with hidden camera footage of the horrific conditions over there.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by nastalgik
Notice how over half the users in this thread are blaming the West or talking about how the West wants to corrupt North Korea's country. Some even say it reminds them of America. It's hilarious.
North Korea's Grand Landscape is pure because the Grand Leader of All, or whatever they call him, saves them from the evil world!


The west has nothing to do with how the North became a Communist country. If these ATS members knew their history, they should be blaming the USSR.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by SeventhSeal

Originally posted by nastalgik
Notice how over half the users in this thread are blaming the West or talking about how the West wants to corrupt North Korea's country. Some even say it reminds them of America. It's hilarious.
North Korea's Grand Landscape is pure because the Grand Leader of All, or whatever they call him, saves them from the evil world!


The west has nothing to do with how the North became a Communist country. If these ATS members knew their history, they should be blaming the USSR.


Well... kinda. Both Korean nations are partially a result of US involvement. They are both the children of a USSR/USA pissing match that's been going on since the 40's. Same as Vietnam, same as Germany (was), same as Cuba, same as Afghanistan, etc. There are several Cold War nations split because of us. You can't say we didn't create NK.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 02:55 PM
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One of my best friends was in North Korea in 2009 on Business.

Said it’s a really nice place, got some really wired stories from her about it.

Apparently it is a really nice place, at least the bits her state tour guide let her see.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 02:57 PM
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Originally posted by onehuman
With so much attention being focused on North Korea these days, I thought I would post this unusual Photo Opportunity for you to see of some of the country. The original photographer is Mr Levek.Though the link to the North Korea site was up earlier,it appears it has been taken down. Fortunately we have a back up link that you can use here. You really cant help but be moved my these photos. I hope you enjoy seeing these rare photos of a different reality.

www.mrlevek.com...&cd=1&hl=en &ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com" target="_blank" class="postlink">LINK FOR PHOTOS

Keep in mind it will take a few moments to load as there are quite many to view.

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edit on 28-1-2011 by onehuman because: (no reason given)


This is what happens when governments want to "manage" society. Authoritarian governments are never stable.
We are slowly becoming north korea. Less freedoms and more police state laws every year.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:11 PM
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Very Cool! It's rare to have such a good view into such a secretive country. It actually looks a lot cleaner than i thought it would (although, the photographer was censored through the whole trip), it still seems that his 'secretive' pics he took still showed it pretty clean. I wonder if they had to give up their sd cards for review before they left? maybe he had a hidden SD that he took the hidden pictures with?
Thx for posting OP



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:12 PM
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How about the tent cities in California? The abandoned people in the US. The NK is at least trying to make everybody get fed despite the limited resource of food. The country is not as bad as you are led to believe. Freedom without the basic necessity is a fantasy.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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Very good post!

Thanks for that!



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by octotom

On a random note, if fighting were to break out, and the US/SK entered the North, I wonder what the few American defectors in North Korea would do/think?


I remember the one guy that defected in the late 70s. He got a lot of tours around the country and was figured prominently in the North Korean propaganda at the time. Then they found him floating down the Imjin River with a pistol round in the back of his head.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by old_god

Originally posted by dl2one
one slave society critiquing another "inferior" slave society. lol


Haha my sentiments exactly...

Who are we to judge another nation? It is easy to believe the BS that is regurgitated on the media and sure there some despot regimes like N.Korea but how do you know what is happening intrinsically at the ground level, what the people are doing on a day to day basis.

One persons poverty is another persons paradise.

Easy to make judgements about a place and it's people from looking at photos but the same could be said about the US and it's slave nation just by reading the god awful stories everyday of how the rights of the people are being eroded on a daily basis.


Well, one way to find out is to talk to people who escaped from North Korea with their lives intact. They're going to tell you exactly what life was like, and why they escaped. You don't have to listen to CNN or FOX news to find truth, you can just talk to somebody who experienced it firsthand.

Every place can be made to look horrible through the magic of editing or selective photography. The difference is that if you talk to people who live there, they will tell you whether or not they are happy.

If you asked me what life was like in the U.S. I would tell you that although there are poor neighborhoods, it's possible to move up in life by getting an education or using one's brain to advance in life. I'd tell you that there are people here who are homeless, some who choose to be, others who have drug and alcohol problems, or are mentally ill. The nice thing is that there are homeless shelters where they can obtain food, clothing and a place to sleep. I'd tell you that people flock here from all over the world to have a better life. There are those who are poor and those who are rich, and almost anything is attainable if you put your back into it. We have more freedom of speech than most countries, we have the freedom to travel in and out of the country, we are allowed to discuss anti-Government subjects on the internet not only with ourselves, but with people from all over the world. We're not cut off, and it only takes a little bit of research to find out whether life is good or bad somewhere else in the world. If I wanted to move to Norway, I have that freedom (assuming Norway would take me in). We can find nearly any product we can imagine, and unless you break the law, you don't have to fear that somebody will break into your house just for saying "I hate the Government." God knows plenty of us say it day and and day out, and we're still here. On occasion you will feel the abusive hand of Government, but it doesn't happen anywhere near the level that it does in N.K.

I can tell you right now, nobody is flocking to North Korea to have a better life. People are trying to get the hell out, especially when they discover the world beyond their borders. North Korea is surrounded by barbed wire and machine guns for a reason. Nobody is allowed to leave, unless MAYBE they're going to Russia or Cuba, and that's if you're sponsored by the NK Government. The barbed wire alone should speak volumes about the quality of life in N.K. In all these photos, do you see a single fat Korean? I know I don't. Why is that? Because there's not enough food to go around. Everyone there is emaciated, except of course the beloved pudgy leader, Kim Jong Il and his son.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:33 PM
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I don't think a homeless person can escape to Norway without a dime in his hand. It is a hell of a freedom.



posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by notsoperfect
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How about the tent cities in California? The abandoned people in the US. The NK is at least trying to make everybody get fed despite the limited resource of food. The country is not as bad as you are led to believe. Freedom without the basic necessity is a fantasy.


Tell that to the guy who was born in a labor camp in North Korea, and decided to escape N.K. when a fellow prisoner couldn't stop talking about how bountiful food is on the outside. He said the biggest reason he escaped North Korea and risked his life to do so, is because of those stories about food. He couldn't stop thinking about it, because he was kept hungry all through his life there.

Tent cities? Yeah... they're bad,.... but they don't compare to some of the things the North Koreans have to live with every day of their lives. We have charities and churches here who feed the needy. Food is obtainable, even if a mortgage payment isn't, and nobody is torturing residents of these tent cities. They're not getting beat down with the butt of a rifle. When the world's charities were sending food to North Korea, 70% of that food went to Kim Jong Il's coffers, and the rest was sold or divided between millions of people. It got to a point where charities found it futile to send food to N.K., because it was diverted and sent to Kim Jong Il's cronies. People there are so poor and hungry, that most of them have never tasted meat. When soldiers were fed a piece of beef or pork on a holiday, most of them threw up because they weren't used to the rich nutrition. All they had to eat for the rest of the year was rice. While out in the field they would rob villagers to keep themselves fed. Yep, certainly sounds MUCH better than California's tent cities.





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