Originally posted by SeventhSeal
reply to post by Echtelion
Yeah because you know Communism worked out so well for Russians when 20 million+ of them died.
Worked out for China with Mao in power too with countless millions dead
Working out for North Koreans? I don't think the 4 million dead can agree Communism is a solid plan.
Don't compare Detroit to North Korea. We as Americans have it so Fuc*ing lucky compared to them.
Explain me how Stalin was a communist, then. A socialist leader, yes, indeed. His few writings testify of a self-absorbed mad man who thought
transitional totalitarian rule was necessary for attaining a communist order. He totally disregarded human life and made the gulags based on his
experience of escaping prisons.
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republic (USSR), was as the title says, socialist. Nothing to do with an economy managed by councils of workers, that
uses class-struggle as a dynamic of social change, as communism usually preaches. Socialism creates a new class society rather than seeking to abolish
And why shouldn't I compare the misery of Detroit, and the whole "Rust Belt", to the misery known in failed socialist regimes? Is it another
I don't know, but I don't see in these pictures of North Korea many favelas, slums, or privately-owned city-like prisons (or prison-like cities!). I
don't know how Americans living in slums are "luckier" to the people in these pictures, especially when these very same ordinary people used to have a
decent living only a decade ago... I'm actually inclined to believe the contrary, that even though people seem poor in places like N Korea and Cuba,
they have a stable living, and no they don't seem to be living off from trash and leftovers, even if they don't seem to have a full belly. I'm not
gonna defend this authoritarian regime, just that it seems to not be letting down its people as much as the power elite does now in the States.
And I'm not gonna make the dead people to testify for my ideology, they deserve more respect than that, no matter if they were from Stalinist Russia,
maoist China, Pinochet's Chile, Hitler's Third Reich, Franco's Spain, Somoza's Nicaragua or Batista's Cuba, nor I'm gonna use the tens of millions of
death made by NATO during its war for corporate dominion during and after the Cold War, including a useless Iraq war and still going deadly occupation
in Afghanistan. Put that aside the countless executions and tortures made by the Church over the centuries.
But it seems that all of these people have one thing in common: they felled as victims of a repressive, despotic State. A tyranny of the few, over the
many. Power detached from the people...
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