reply to post by mnemeth1
Thanks for the thread, OP. Good discussion here.
Some members have suggested that a transcript of the interview would be useful so I've written one up. Where the the names are shown with no line
break it means they were speaking at the same time.
ES = Ed Schultz
JZ = Joe Zamudio
(Transcript begins from tape time of 2 minutes, 13 seconds.
ES: Welcome back the Ed Show. President Obama's speaking this afternoon. As the horrific shooting unfolded in Tuscon on Saturday, a few heroic
individuals rushed into the line of fire, risking their lives to prevent even more deaths. One of the people who helped wrestle the gunman was -- to
the ground -- was Joe Zamudio, who joins us now on the Ed Show tonight. Joe, you are a hero. Thank you for doing what you did. You saved lives.
JZ: Thank you. Umm... I -- I didn't think about it. I just did what needed to be done. I went to go help. I carry a gun so I was -- I felt like I was
a little bit more prepared to err -- do some good than uh, maybe somebody else would've been. Umm... honestly I didn't think at all.
ES: Joe, take a moment...take a moment and tell us exactly...how it went down. What was the first thing you saw? Did you get in the gunman's face when
he was on the ground? Tell us what happened.
JZ: Well, as I came out of the door of the Walgreen, sir, I saw several individuals wrestling with him, and ahh -- I came running, I was already at a
full sprint -- and ahh, you know, there's no time to think about anything; I saw another individual holding the firearm and I kind of assumed he was
the shooter, so I grabbed his wrist and ahh you know, told him to drop it and forced him to drop the gun on the ground. When he did that, everybody
says, "No, no -- it's this guy, it's this guy," and I proceeded to help hold that man down... Umm... You know, he's trying to squirm but not very hard
-- at it didn't seem like he was trying very hard to me. I'm a big guy, though, I'm two-twenty and I was holding him down, so --
ES: Did he say any --
JZ: -- he wasn't going anywhere...
ES: -- Joe, did he say anything? Did he mutter any words, did he show any expression at all?
JZ: No expression. His face was the same the whole time. Even when he complained, he says "Ow, ow, you're hurting my arm," it -- I didn't ev-- it
seems like it -- ahh -- other-worldly, it didn't even seem like it came from him, because his face stayed -- calm. He was...emotionless.
ES: How chaotic was it?
JZ: It was pretty chaotic. I mean, there was...a lot of people wounded; there was blood everywhere. It was really...disturbing thing to witness...the
most disturbing thing I've ever been a part of in my life... Umm... All those people hurting and crying, and, and -- asking for loved ones... I mean,
this is a horrible event, it's a terrible thing for our community.
ES: Did you ever think of drawing your firearm, or you made the determination you didn't have to?
JZ: Sir, when I came through the door, I had my hand on the butt of my pistol and I'd clicked the safety off. I was ready to kill him. But I didn't
have to do that and I was very blessed that I didn't have to go to that place. Luckily they'd already begun the... solution, so all I had to do was
help...umm... If they hadn't grabbed him and he was still moving, I would've shot him.
ES: Joe --
JZ: -- I would've shot the man holding the gun.
ES: You would've used that firearm. (Transcriber's note: this was said as a statement and not a question, hence no question mark. Mike.
JZ: You're damned right. This is my country, this is my c- this is my town; you don't get to walk around hurting people, killing innocents and little
girls... That's not right, man.
ES: It's horrific.
ES: How do you feel about the --
JZ: It's not right...
ES: How do you feel about the gun laws in Arizona?
JZ: You know I -- I carry a gun everywhere I go, sir. Honestly, I believe that errr... you can make as many laws as you want; people who want guns are
gonna get 'em. You know, laws aren't made for crim-- aren't made for us, they're made for criminals, and criminals can get guns...any way they want.
So, you can make as many laws as you want and they're just not gonna stop anybody. They can bring it across the border from Mexico, they could -- you
can get an old one that's not registered, you can steal one, you can -- I mean -- you can buy it out of a trunk. There's no shortage of firearms;
that's no gonna -- that's not the solution. The solution is helping people, it's taking care of people. You know, not leaving these lone wolf gunmen
out to be lone wolves. I mean, he shouldn't be in a situation where he's so alone, that...this is his only solution. I think that our -- our answer is
to help people, and not argue over whether or not we're allowed to own guns. We live in America, we're allowed to own guns. It's not a -- option.
JZ: Ummm...I think the.... Go ahead.
ES: Joe, I'm out of time on this segment tonight. I just want to thank you for what you did...
JZ: Thank you.
ES: ...it was very courageous, and ahh... you saved lives. Joe Zamudio here with us tonight on the Ed Show. Thank you, Joe.
A courageous young man in my opinion and one with a lot of good solid sense and decent morals. Even if others had already begun the task of subduing
the shooter, in a case like this the situation was still fluid and dangerous. Hats off to him.
edit on 13/1/11 by JustMike because: of typos. (No surprise!)