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I have a hard time taking these kinds of sources seriously...I try not to cite the "Ban all guns..they kill children Institute" for my statistics either.
Bloomberg's push to rid New York City of illegal guns has seen results. The number of guns recovered from crime scenes in the city dropped by 13 percent from last year. The number of people shot to death dropped from 347 in 2007 to 292 in 2008. Overall, murders increased from 2007 to 2008, but only due to an increase in crimes committed with knives.
The [B]ATF tracing system is an operational system designed to help law enforcement agencies identify the ownership path of individual firearms. It was not designed to collect statistics.
"A law enforcement officer may initiate a trace request for any reason. No crime need be involved. No screening policy ensures or requires that only guns known or suspected to have been used in crimes are traced... it is not possible to determine if traced firearms are related to criminal activity."
"[B]ATF does not always know if a firearm being traced has been used in a crime. For instance, sometimes a firearm is traced simply to determine the rightful owner after it is found by a law enforcement agency."
how many percent of legal gun holders are criminals then, or are involved with some type of illegal activity, drugs, gangs, breakins, theft, crime of any kind that may see need to use such weapons against an innocent community.
sure, the hardened criminals or even those who persist may find black market arms as a supply, but not all will or know how to go that road.
Originally posted by MikeNice81
reply to post by maybereal11
It was a good discussion. Something that is becoming increasingly rare when it comes to opposing views.
Originally posted by maybereal11
So I am left with...I still have my opinion...but am much less certain that I am right than when the discussion began.