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Originally posted by questcequecest
only in america does this sort of thing happen,you people are all brain washed.
like the bird threads why cant we just be efficent and put it all in the one thread. everyone wants to be the person to crack the story for their own little personal whatever, its just like david byrne says "same as it ever was"
Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist
reply to post by randomname
The problem isn't the speaker himself or herself, it's the people listening, coupled with the speaker's attempt to censor the other means of retrieving information, as would be the case with Hitler. With the internet and access to an absurd amount of information, one is able to browse different avenues of information and knowledge, and form a better bigger picture.
It's like being locked in a room with only one means of receiving information, which would be a man or woman touting propaganda. The person in that room only has one way of accessing reality, and it's through that speaker. The world is known to the person in the room only as the speaker says it.
Then on the other end, it's like a person having access to libraries, contrasting speakers, books, movies, documents of all sorts, and having a massive amount of information that the person can use to come to an informed conclusion about something or other.
So it's nothing short of a cop out to place blame on the person speaking. That's tantamount to censorship in a different form. It's the fault of the individual acting out on how they are interpreting what someone says, not the speaker.
Originally posted by loam
reply to post by Stormdancer777
Moreover, the point made in this thread is ridiculous.
Whatever happened to personal responsibility and accountability? I think it's a crime in and of itself to provide the killer cover by suggesting "Sarah Palin made him do it."
You people scare me.
I think narrow minded superficial analysis like yours is what brings down the intelligence level of this country to the country bumpkin level of a Sarah Palin type like yourself who cant think other than linear simplistic nonsense.
Originally posted by Chevalerous
National Socialism was the antithesis of Marxist Socialism on the political spectrum in the 1930's Germany!
And in my opinion! you as a Jewish guy should be ashamed of yourself in front of the whole world for spewing this history revision about German & European history, regurgitating this insane far-right American propaganda that Hitler was an European Socialist!
Originally posted by Alxandro
But he didn't, he was just another left wing lunatic with a gun.
Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
reply to post by inforeal
Ignorance is HUGE in America right now, and the OP is a glaring example of it.
Originally posted by Sinnthia
reply to post by Janky Red
I find it pretty funny how just last summer ATS was overflowing with these same Palin nuts repeating that line about the tree of liberty needing to be watered with the blood of patriots and now they are falling over themselves in these lame attempts to try and pretend they never meant for anyone to take what they were saying as violent. Oh my how the patriots backtrack when times get real.
Originally posted by inforeal
No one for one minute believes that the assassin went out and shot those people for Sarah Plain’s causes.
That’s not the issue at all. The issue simply is her violent rhetoric can and may have connected with a man who is mentally unstable; and it can happen again.
It doesn’t matter whether this assassin was a left winger, right winger or apolitical, it is his mental state that is the question and famous people who use inflammatory rhetoric like Palin can affect all kinds of people and particularly the mentally deranged.
I’m happy she finally has the sense to take down that rhetoric about reloading and putting human beings she doesn’t agree with in crosshairs.
I don’t believe a logical sane follower of Palin would ever assassinate anyone.
But if one has the ear of millions of people as Palin does then she should have the sense to refrain from such rhetoric, but she obviously doesn’t.
Of course now she takes down the site that has those inflammatory words toward democrats. That alone is an admission that it was wrong and immoral to do in the first place.
Originally posted by Phenomium
She took down the site because she didnt want guns (something she supported) associated with this killing.
Originally posted by bigkev
Now to use their correlation, that maps kill people, then we can similarly hold the Democrats responsible for killing their own representative because this map is from their own heartland strategy