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Topic started on 31-12-2010 @ 06:56 AM by FlyersFan

for the media forum ....

TV anchor Katie Couric says that America needs an American family of black Muslims to be the core of a new sitcom show. Well .. do you agree? Does America NEED this? Do you all feel the NEED to be educated by Hollywood about black Muslims living in the United States? Do you feel the NEED to be 'educated' via a sitcom setting?

IMHO - being preached at by Hollywood with their PC version of black Islam under the guise of a sitcom ...

@KatieCouric .. her video website
www.cbsnews.com...
If you don't want to watch and watch and watch Couric on her video site ... read and see the links below ...

News Busters - Katie Couric - Maybe we need a Muslim version of The Cosby Show

When comedian Mo Rocca said he went to "really fancy schools" and "I cannot tell you five things about Islam," Couric shot back "Maybe we need a Muslim version of The Cosby Show." She continued: I know that sounds crazy, I know that sounds crazy. But The Cosby Show did so much to change attitudes about African-Americans in this country, and I think sometimes people are afraid of what they don't understand -- like you, Mo.

Couric also said this - "I think religion should be taught as an academic subject in public schools." That's all fine and dandy .. teaching that there are different religions and the basics of that religion. Only problem is that you get the public school PC version of that religion, and not the truth. Public schools are failing students miserably. They can't even get the kids to read or do math .. and the kids are falling way behind in science compared to the world in general. I would think the schools should get their academics up and running first and leave the deep education about religions to the colleges. Social studies courses already have basic information about different religions. Nothing more is needed IMHO.

Katie Couric - We need a Muslim version of the Cosby Show - video here

Side note - I liked the Cosby show. Rudy was aaaahhhhdorable!

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 07:37 AM by Mike.Ockizard

reply to post by FlyersFan

sure, why not. tv is trash anyway. i personally tune out as there really isnt much i'd call entertainment on the boob tube.

if its the influence that your worried about, what negative influence do you fear or disagree with? is it the black or muslim part? i feel that it shouldnt be. more and more its evident we are all in this together and trying to blot out other cultures is like hiding your head in the sand. sooner or later we have to look at each other and talk/listen. turn off the tv and make new friends.

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 07:38 AM by JohnnyCanuck

reply to post by FlyersFan

I'm guessing that what she means is a show that serves to humanise folks of the Islamic bent...you know, show the knuckleheads that they don't have horns...that sort of thing. Also...what's the Muslim population of the US? Would it hurt to see that demographic reflected?

The relationship to Cosby? Is that when middle America discovered that blacks could be professionals, have family issues and wear bad sweaters, just like white folk?

We have a popular show in Canada...Little Mosque on the Prairie www.cbc.ca....

You might want to check it out as a point of reference. It won't likely make your head explode. Likely.

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 07:43 AM by beezzer

reply to post by FlyersFan

How would you enact a stoning with a laugh track?

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 07:44 AM by aching_knuckles

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
reply to post by FlyersFan

I'm guessing that what she means is a show that serves to humanise folks of the Islamic bent...

If you dont stop that socialist terrorist talk we are going to have to nuke canada.

humanise islamics pshhh next youll be telling me the earth is older than 5000 years.

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 07:47 AM by Mike.Ockizard

reply to post by Mike.Ockizard

just wanted to add....

its sad but she is right in a way. people dont understand something and many times they use thier ignoranceas an excuse to dslike something that is foriegn to them. i think thats her point, promote understanding in order to heal bigotry.

as much as americans feed on tv, if thats the only way to wake them up to the fact that thier way of life isnt al there is, then so be it. this is something true education should be doing but the method used to educate kids these days stresses the way we are different rather than the ways we are the same.

as far as a muslim cosby-like show, if they get the right talent t could be funny. i've seen plenty of funny muslim comedians and personally know a few that are fun to hang with. so, it could work i guess...

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 07:50 AM by Sinnthia

Originally posted by FlyersFan
black Muslims

black Islam

May I ask why you added the "black" into the equation?
I read the article but did not watch the video so if that is where I missed it, forgive me.

edit on 31-12-2010 by Sinnthia because: (no reason given)

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 07:51 AM by Mike.Ockizard

reply to post by aching_knuckles

5000 years? everyone knows its 6000.

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 07:51 AM by Flighty

I can just imagine the bomb threats the studio would get if the humour wasn't to some radicals liking.
And unless the religious part isn't up to be made fun of, what would be the point of doing a COMEDY about Muslims?

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 07:55 AM by tiger5

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

S and F to you mate! Good points.

I am not quite sure about the black moslems only because the Wahabiists always say they are not good moslems south of the Sahara so perhaps black moslems would not be credible. Perhaps looking to the fundies of any hue for endorsement is my mistake. The entire setup should be credible.

Anyway it may not hurt to have some comedy. Someone may get upset. Some black people denouced the Cosby show as it wasn't street! As if we all live like Street! (Sheesh).

America can do it because they do not rely on one writer more like a roomful and they havea fine history of multiethnic comedy like the Jewish humour that did so much to influence the world.

I hope the message is a long second behind the comedy!

edit on 31-12-2010 by tiger5 because: Add a para

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 08:00 AM by Ilovecatbinlady

I think an easy going sitcom about an American family who happen to be Muslim would be great. It would undo the damage being caused by the Pam Gellers and fascists in the US.

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 08:02 AM by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by Flighty
I can just imagine the bomb threats the studio would get if the humour wasn't to some radicals liking.
And unless the religious part isn't up to be made fun of, what would be the point of doing a COMEDY about Muslims?

Nobody has blown up the CBC yet. Is there a point you don't get here?

You know the government has to do their best to villainize a people before the taxpayer agrees to pay to kill them.

Seems to work.

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 08:09 AM by BenIndaSun

reply to post by FlyersFan

Of course Americans need this. A show that will give us new stereotypes for the Muslims, maybe a little less ominous than the whole bearded terrorism thing. Why not have a black dad, white mom, and gay child so we can get more used to the interracial couples and homosexuals? Set it up so they came here illegally to, to show that immigrants can be funny and lovable too.

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 08:20 AM by DevilJin

Wouldn't it be simpler if you told media hacks like Bill O'Reilly, idiots from the View, etc. to stop generalizing Muslims as terrorists, and stop the media from inciting hate toward Muslims by over sympathizing with them (i.e. the ground zero Mosque caused an uproar all over America despite those angry probably don't know the Pentagon has a Muslim prayer room!!). Stop the NSA, CIA, FBI and any other organization from identifying every terrorist they "catch" as a Muslim. If the media was fair, we would not have this problem.

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 08:22 AM by Optix

I don't need any religion of any kind forced upon me. I could care less what people worship and i hope they would care less about what i feel. Keep to themselves. I dont need any cult swaying my thoughts.... dont force people to conform to dogmatic standards. Just treat each other fairly.

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 08:24 AM by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by BenIndaSun
reply to post by FlyersFan

Of course Americans need this. A show that will give us new stereotypes for the Muslims, maybe a little less ominous than the whole bearded terrorism thing. Why not have a black dad, white mom, and gay child so we can get more used to the interracial couples and homosexuals? Set it up so they came here illegally to, to show that immigrants can be funny and lovable too.

I provided the link to the model...an existing show in a North American context.

Unless of course...you're scared to watch an episode...

photo courtesy CBC

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 08:34 AM by BenIndaSun

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by BenIndaSun
reply to post by FlyersFan

Of course Americans need this. A show that will give us new stereotypes for the Muslims, maybe a little less ominous than the whole bearded terrorism thing. Why not have a black dad, white mom, and gay child so we can get more used to the interracial couples and homosexuals? Set it up so they came here illegally to, to show that immigrants can be funny and lovable too.

I provided the link to the model...an existing show in a North American context.

Unless of course...you're scared to watch an episode...

photo courtesy CBC

Well I'm not afraid, I would just rather protect my brain from all idiocy and propaganda the media and tv would try to put into it. To clarify, I don't care if someones gay, straight, muslim, christian, black, white, etc etc etc, whatever, I don't judge things like that, only on intellect and actions.

Also, according to the logic of the muslim show, we most certainly need a show to normalize public opinion of the repeal of don't ask, don't tell. Maybe a prime time sitcom surrounding a love affair of two soldiers.

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 08:37 AM by JohnnyCanuck

reply to post by BenIndaSun

You have an example in front of you and refuse to look at it. It puts the whole thread into a practical context, but you decline the offer to inform your opinion.
Essentially..."don't confuse me with facts...my mind is made up"...lol.

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 08:38 AM by eNumbra

If America needs a terrible sitcom about everything it "doesn't understand"; when will we be getting the show about the lovable hijinks of some wacky Libertarian family?

reply posted on 31-12-2010 @ 08:49 AM by BenIndaSun

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
reply to post by BenIndaSun

You have an example in front of you and refuse to look at it. It puts the whole thread into a practical context, but you decline the offer to inform your opinion.
Essentially..."don't confuse me with facts...my mind is made up"...lol.

You and I differ in that I don't consider information from a Canadian TV show fact. And to say that your example puts the whole thread into context is incomplete. It's not only about a potential American show based on Muslims, it's about using television to condition people either intentionally or not. Which requires looking at all television shows, and considering tv as an information and education medium.

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