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Originally posted by IndianBones
Originally posted by Blue Shift
I suppose they know how to transmute gold from base metals, where the lost Tomb of Solomon is, how many alien races are in contact with Earth, the secret to instantaneous interstellar travel, the True Name of God, the true nature of John the Baptist, the secret to controlling demons from other dimensions, the ability to scry into the future like Nostradamus, how to talk to any animal, the recipe for the world's best martini, where all the lost socks go out of the wash, what Heaven is like, how to make a 7-10 split every time, and so on.
The thing is, if they are in possession of any powerful arcane or mystical knowledge, they certainly haven't demonstrated the ability to use it for anything worthwhile. The true power of Masonry, like all organizations, is that it helps people get organized. And that immediately puts you quite a few steps above the average person.
Why would an organized person be above an unorganized person? One just functions quicker or more efficiently because the information is easier to access for them. That dosen't make them more important :]
1815: The five Rothschild brothers work to supply gold to both Wellington's army (through Nathan in England) and Napoleon's army (through Jacob in France), and begin their policy of funding both sides in wars. The Rothschilds love wars because they are massive generators of risk free debt.
This is because they are guaranteed by the government of a country, and therefore the efforts of the population of that country, and it doesn't matter if that country loses the war because the loans are given on the guarantee that the victor will honour the debts of the vanquished.
Whilst the Rothschilds are funding both sides in this war, they use the banks they have spread out across Europe to give them the opportunity to set up an unrivalled postal service network of secret routes and fast couriers. The post these couriers carried was to be opened up by these couriers and their details given to the Rothschilds so they always were one step ahead of current events.
Furthermore, these Rothschild couriers were the only merchants allowed to pass through the English and French blockades. It was these couriers who also kept Nathan Mayer Rothschild up to date with how the war was going so he could use that intelligence to buy and sell from his position on the stock exchange in accordance with that intelligence.
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Dajjal
sounds a lot like Trading Places
Where did you get your information from? It's an interesting story.
N. M. Rothschild & Sons advise the British government on the privatisation of British Gas. They subsequently advise the British government on virtually all of their other privatisations of state owned assets including: British Steel; British Coal; all the British regional electricity boards; and all the British regional water boards.
A British MP heavily involved in these privatisations is future Chancellor of the Exchequer, Norman Lamont, a former Rothschild banker.
Lamont served in successive governments under Margaret Thatcher and John Major for a total of 14 years, in the Departments of Energy, Industry, Defence and the Treasury. In 1986, he moved to the Treasury, first as Financial Secretary to the Treasury, then Chief Secretary to the Treasury (succeeding John Major in the latter job on Major's promotion to Foreign Secretary in July 1989) under Chancellor Nigel Lawson, whom he tried unsuccessfully to persuade not to resign from the government on the morning of 26 October 1989 – Lawson resigned that evening. Lamont remained as Chief Secretary to the Treasury under Major's Chancellorship.
Originally posted by fordrew
reply to post by Mirthful Me
Well then excuse my inebriated post and carry on.
Originally posted by W3RLIED2
reply to post by Dajjal
And all of this relates to 33rd degree Freemasons how exactly?
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Dajjal
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as long as I am not being called a criminal, I am usually a nice guy.
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Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by fordrew
... If you come here without an open mind, your time is completely wasted. ...
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by Dajjal
as long as I am not being called a criminal, I am usually a nice guy.
Not knowing much about the Rothschilds, I can't say for sure, but a deliberate recession will cause one thing for sure. Real estate prices to hit bottom. When that happens, those with money can buy up as much as they can and wait for things to stabilize. It's like double your money in less than 5 years. Trouble is, you have to have money to make money.
Where are you getting all this knowledge you have on the subject? Is this all your thoughts, or are you paraphrasing from some book? I only ask because I like to know the source and context of the subject I am attempting to discuss. I would suggest another thread on this as it isn't at all relevant to the existing thread.
Originally posted by Dajjal
Anyway, I am a "new kid on the block" so I cant start threads yet
Originally posted by JoshNorton
Where you been? I already said on page 3 that that crap is from Cerneau ritual...
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
The initiation ritual involves drinking blood out of a skull, and allowing a skeleton to hug you from behind.
Your oath is that the blood will poison you and that the arms that hug you be the arms of Death.
Originally posted by abcddcba
islam and prolly the other religins too expressly forbids drinking blood, or making vows to "gods" other than the one. masonry allows all religions and surely one of the 33rd degree masons was muslim or against the practice of drinking blood. so im gonna go with this being bull.
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
The initiation ritual involves drinking blood out of a skull, and allowing a skeleton to hug you from behind.
Your oath is that the blood will poison you and that the arms that hug you be the arms of Death.
like i said before knowledge is power i would research any and all claims outlandish and otherwise before perpetuating them. i read and talked to a buncha people masons and oes included and no one could substantiate even the wildest of rumors i asked them about. when i research claims it leads to things that falsify the whole claim and when i asked mason about it they were all either shocked to find out people thought thats what they did or laughed about it because it sounded so ridiculous.
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
There are Freemasons who have admitted that they've drunk blood out of a skull. They always tack something extra onto it, like that it's wine or red Kool-Aid, and that the skull is made of plastic. Some of the more indiscreet Masons have admitted that it's a real human cranium.
This text if from the scottishrite.org old site template via Google Cache
How different are these Degrees from those a candidate goes through in the typical American Blue Lodge? Well, let’s just say it’s not for the fainthearted. The preparation room in the Scottish Rite First Degree is styled “The Chamber of Reflection.” It is designed to give the candidate a solemn and somber moment to reflect on his life: where he has been, where he is now, and where he is going. And that’s just the first of many fascinating differences reflecting the French heritage of the Scottish Rite Craft Degrees.
Originally posted by Solomonopoly
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
There are Freemasons who have admitted that they've drunk blood out of a skull. They always tack something extra onto it, like that it's wine or red Kool-Aid, and that the skull is made of plastic. Some of the more indiscreet Masons have admitted that it's a real human cranium.
There's a skull in the Blue lodge & or Craft lodges. It's part of the chamber of reflections. Also it's in the Scottish Rite as well.
Pirates used it as a Symbol also.
Shakespeare used a skull in a play 2 be or not 2 be!
What is he that builds stronger than either the Mason, the Shipwright or the Carpenter?
Skulls aren't a omen of evil, But it's the Bone box of treasures. Sure a person can think certain evils inside of their skull but that doesn't make everyone else's skull contents evil?
This text if from the scottishrite.org old site template via Google Cache
How different are these Degrees from those a candidate goes through in the typical American Blue Lodge? Well, let’s just say it’s not for the fainthearted. The preparation room in the Scottish Rite First Degree is styled “The Chamber of Reflection.” It is designed to give the candidate a solemn and somber moment to reflect on his life: where he has been, where he is now, and where he is going. And that’s just the first of many fascinating differences reflecting the French heritage of the Scottish Rite Craft Degrees.
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
In addition, there is a man named Rosencrantz, which was the name of a family of Danish royals, but could also have been a play on Rosenkreutz.
Originally posted by Solomonopoly
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
In addition, there is a man named Rosencrantz, which was the name of a family of Danish royals, but could also have been a play on Rosenkreutz.
Just as Hiram was a allegory with a 3 letter word that is supposedly lost. And just as Hiram is the pillar of beauty and King Hiram was the pillar of Strength and Resources & Solomon was the pillar of wisdom. So to is the allegory of Rosenkreutz.
The allegory of the 17th century Christian Rosenkreutz, refers to the spiritual body of the Rosicrucian organization preparing itself to the resurgence of its business via the Royal Society. Rosenkreutz is a allegorical reference to the Spiritual body of Rosicrucianism.
Members of the Great White Brotherhood which assists in transition and have received the highest initiation on the cosmic plane become members of the Great White Lodge. In an exchange of communication with the Great White Lodge, Great White Brotherhood receives messages and guidelines for teaching. White as is in Albedo Alchemy the whitening, purification and burnout of impurity. Because it wouldn't make as much sense to call it the Great Black Brotherhood as in Nigredo Alchemy the starting point of the Magnum Opus or Summum bonum as it is known in the Rose Croix. Also you couldn't say the Great Yellow (Citrinitas) or the Great Red (Rubedo) Brotherhood as well.