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People are so quick to jump to his defense that you miss details. There is a possibility that wikileaks provided technical assistance to Pvt. Manning in the manner of encryption softeware that allowed him to secure the info and send it by email without it triggering military security that looks at outgoing and incoming emails.
Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Xcathdra
People are so quick to jump to his defense that you miss details. There is a possibility that wikileaks provided technical assistance to Pvt. Manning in the manner of encryption softeware that allowed him to secure the info and send it by email without it triggering military security that looks at outgoing and incoming emails.
If this were true it would be all over the news already and Julian would already be faceing charges in the US..
Thus I must assume it is nothing more than rumours..
The WH would already have demonised Julian with details like that..
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Originally posted by backinblack
reply to post by Xcathdra
People are so quick to jump to his defense that you miss details. There is a possibility that wikileaks provided technical assistance to Pvt. Manning in the manner of encryption softeware that allowed him to secure the info and send it by email without it triggering military security that looks at outgoing and incoming emails.
If this were true it would be all over the news already and Julian would already be faceing charges in the US..
Thus I must assume it is nothing more than rumours..
The WH would already have demonised Julian with details like that..
Its been reported in several outlets. Its an interview from Adrian Lamo talking about the encryption software that was provided. As of now there is no reason to call his information into question, since Manning spoke to him regularly about whats going on leading up to Lamo turning him in.
As far as the Whitehoue or DOJ calling it out offically, I dont agree. The investigation is ongoing, and its possible Manning was not the only person involved. Since the ivnestigation is ongoing, they are not going to release evidence since it could be thrown out of court if they did, jeopradizing any potential criminal charges.edit on 10-12-2010 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Siddharta
Gossip
Gossip
Gossip
I wish there was some place, where we could talk about the beaf.
Obviously nobody is aware of the cables themselves at all. May TPTB take over again.
What makes WikiLeaks particularly threatening to the most powerful factions is that they cannot control it. Even when whistle-blowers in the past have leaked serious corruption and criminal conduct to perfectly good journalists at the nation's largest corporate media outlets, government officials could control how the information was disclosed. When the NYT learned in 2004 that the Bush administration was illegally eavesdropping on Americans without warrants, George Bush summoned the paper's Publisher and Executive Editor to the Oval Office, demanded that the story not be published, and the paper complied by sitting on it for a full year until after Bush was safely re-elected. When The Washington Post's Dana Priest learned that the CIA was maintaining a network of secret prisons -- black sites -- she honored the request of "senior U.S. officials" not to identify the countries where those prisons were located so as to not disrupt the U.S.'s ability to continue to use those countries for such projects.
Both WikiLeaks and Manning have stated that The Washington Post's David Finkel, when writing his book on Iraq two years ago, had possession of the Apache helicopter video but never released it to the public (Manning: "Washington Post sat on the video … David Finkel acquired a copy while embedded out here"). As Columbia Journalism Review reported, both the Post and Finkel were quite coy and evasive in addressing that claim, pointedly insisting that "the Post" had never possessed that video while refusing to say whether Finkel did.
By stark contrast, WikiLeaks isn't interested in helping governments, militaries and corporations keep secrets. They're interested in the opposite: forcing transparency on institutions which conduct the vast, vast bulk of their substantive conduct in the dark. They're not susceptible to pressure from political and corporate officials; rather, they want to hold them accountable. That's what makes WikiLeaks so uniquely threatening to elite institutions, and anyone who doubts that should simply read the 2008 Pentagon Report discussing ways to destroy it, or review the Obama administration's unprecedented and rapidly escalating war on whistle-blowers generally.
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
Why is Hilary Hitler Clinton not being charged?
Why are the people who committed the crimes that were leaked not being charged.
Julian Assange did nothing besides let the truth be told.
You people who stand against him should be happy that America is now becoming communist . Sheep.
If I had the means, I would leave this country. I dont have enough money to move to another one, but it's on my list, as soon as a dumptruck full of money lands in my yard.
Originally posted by backinblack
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
Why is Hilary Hitler Clinton not being charged?
Why are the people who committed the crimes that were leaked not being charged.
Julian Assange did nothing besides let the truth be told.
You people who stand against him should be happy that America is now becoming communist . Sheep.
If I had the means, I would leave this country. I dont have enough money to move to another one, but it's on my list, as soon as a dumptruck full of money lands in my yard.
True..A lot of fools are saying why are the media releasing these leaks if they are controled by TPTB..
The fact is, they're not..They are releasing few leaks that suit their agenda then concentrating most of their time attacking Julian and Wikileaks...
They are all but ignoring the leaks and the message it sends..
That is, many politicians lie and commit criminal acts...
Yes, spying on UN personal IS a crime..
It's called espionage, the same crime the US is trying to charge Julian with...
Odd don't you think? But I'd bet the MSM don't pickup on that fact..
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by Movescamp
People are so quick to jump to his defense that you miss details. There is a possibility that wikileaks provided technical assistance to Pvt. Manning in the manner of encryption softeware that allowed him to secure the info and send it by email without it triggering military security that looks at outgoing and incoming emails.
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
Like I said..if I had the money..Id be on a boat to..well..anywhere but here.
Originally posted by nerbot
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
Like I said..if I had the money..Id be on a boat to..well..anywhere but here.
I'm broke too, but if you can get to France we could be broke together.
Originally posted by nerbot
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
Like I said..if I had the money..Id be on a boat to..well..anywhere but here.
I'm broke too, but if you can get to France we could be broke together.
Originally posted by backinblack
Originally posted by nerbot
Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch
Like I said..if I had the money..Id be on a boat to..well..anywhere but here.
I'm broke too, but if you can get to France we could be broke together.
This is ATS not a dating site..
But I gave you a star for the laugh.
A former Mossad officer has alleged the Israeli spy agency has its own "passport factory" to create or doctor passports for use in intelligence operations.