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November Tipping Point - Disclosure has begun

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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:04 PM
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I don't call you a liar. Look at what I said.

I just say that it's more probable that you only want our attention for selfish reasons - as this is so in most of the cases. I do not say that is true for you. But I say it's most likely so. And saying that you release something that will make Wikileaks look like a joke is a very bald statement that needs some more substance to it.

Tell me the date when you begin to announce / release something. Then I might have a look again.


Edit to add:
You mention "magic" in your message. I don't believe in magic. If you were really chosen as contactee then you would know what it really is. Magic is a very very blurry and vage noun.
Regarding E.T. I think they do not have "magic" I believe they are much more spirit-like (don't NEED a body really) and they have a much better access to the 10 dimensions that make up our world. This seems like magic maybe. But it's not.
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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss
Webbot is a fail. way to conect wiki leaks to webbot = fail

Wiki leaks is not earth changing as webbot wanted you to belive would happen

Webbot= fail

timewave= fail



You dont really know that, the wiki leaks topic is pretty recent, we all have yet to see what it will do to us in the long run between the stuff that has been released and the stuff thats going to be released. He maybe right, maybe the web bot was talking about this, maybe it wasn't. Not enough time has passed though to say this isn't a major event. We dont really know what kind of tension this has built between country relations nor have we seen the final result. Only time will tell.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by mrMasterJoe
reply to post by etcorngods
 


I don't call you a liar. Look at what I said.

I just say that it's more probable that you only want our attention for selfish reasons - as this is so in most of the cases. I do not say that is true for you. But I say it's most likely so. And saying that you release something that will make Wikileaks look like a joke is a very bald statement that needs some more substance to it.

Tell me the date when you begin to announce / release something. Then I might have a look again.


"Soon". Can't tell you more than that.

I hear what you "believe" -- you are wrong -- all the UFO/ET/Alien "experts" are wrong. Proving people wrong is God's expertise. Because you believe I should know certain things doesn't mean anything. What I have told you is true.

But I told you enough to knock your sox off in my previous post. Proof of God is more important than proof of UFO/ET/Alien -- Proof that destroys Religion as we know it today.

Study the websites listed in my Profile.
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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:29 PM
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STOP!!
You will never get your long awaited disclosure, these ufos you long for so much, are just a mild shadow of the future, of things to come.
You cease to understand, you long for these beings, yet they only come here to study, not be your friend.

IMAGEN YOU HAD THE TECHNOLOGY TO VIST YOUR ANCESTORS!!!! *caps for getting attenion*
You go back intime, in a time traveling car, your ancestors the neanderthuls, wouldn't understand, to them, it would be magic. Or the power of Gods.

A rocket ship would be as interseting to a caveman as a spaceship would be to us, what is the first thing mankind would do with the power of time travel? GO BACK IN TIME AND VIST THIER ANCESTORS!!!

Our decendants, have come from the future, to see how primtive and simple minded we really are, they may look like aliens, because they have had thousands or maybe millions of years of evolution (and genetic engineering) by thier side, they are tall grey skined (protection against radation) thier heads are larger and as well as thier eyes (large black compound eyes for better vision) they are skinny, and physically weaker, but mentally stronger.

They do not want to be our friends, merely study us and maybe, have our species evolve a few hundred years sooner then nature is willing. So that is why disclosure will never come, because if this become public knowledge, then that changes what happens in the future, which could alter everything even to the point, they may not exist.

So disclosure will never come, it is our future selfs visting us, so if you wake up to see a grey, perhaps that is your long lost great great great super great grandson, merely obsevering you. Those who become aware probally wont be visted, for that reason.

PM me of what you guys think



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:35 PM
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What you say is not true. It is untested, unproven baloney. I have worked with ET Presence for 25 years, don't tell me it doesn't exist.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:40 PM
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Ok, so you think there is proof that god exists. I don't believe in god as the Christian religion claims him (why not her??) to be. This will be a though one for you to convince me of anything


In fact I believe that WE are god. Our consciousness is god. The quantum probability wave function collapses because of our observing effect. Even the bible says that god created men after himself. My interpretation is that the collective consciousness of ALL beings in its sum is god. So each and everyone of us is a part of god. It may even be possible that you and me are in fact EXACLTY the same. You are me and I am you. But in different experience states / levels / times / call-it-what-you-like. Why do I claim such "crazy" things? Because quantum physics already claims that EVERY electron that exists in the entire universe in indeed the SAME electron that travels fourth and back in time. Get you head around that one.

That all being said I believe that WE create reality - no one else. And advanced E.T.s have MUCH more profund effects on this creation process than we have currently. Their spiritual part / consciousness is much more evolved hence more effective. Maybe the god of the "bible" is really just a very powerful E.T. after all... but I still doubt it.

For me this all fits very well together... I suspect you might not convince me with YOUR theory



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:47 PM
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I agree with alot of what you`re saying.

Nothing can stop the momentum now. This situation is not going to simply disapear for TPTB. They fear the awakening of the masses. Remember, they need us more than we need them. They only have power because we give it to them. We provide for them, not the other way around. When most of the eyes are open, Stuff will really hit the fan.

What if we really can`t handle the trueth? What if the trueth of it all is so increadible that nobody believes it when the trueth is right in front of their faces? The biggest of secrets is the easiest to keep, because most will simply choose not to believe the trueth.


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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by mrMasterJoe
reply to post by etcorngods
 


Ok, so you think there is proof that god exists. I don't believe in god as the Christian religion claims him (why not her??) to be. This will be a though one for you to convince me of anything


In fact I believe that WE are god. Our consciousness is god. The quantum probability wave function collapses because of our observing effect. Even the bible says that god created men after himself. My interpretation is that the collective consciousness of ALL beings in its sum is god. So each and everyone of us is a part of god. It may even be possible that you and me are in fact EXACLTY the same. You are me and I am you. But in different experience states / levels / times / call-it-what-you-like. Why do I claim such "crazy" things? Because quantum physics already claims that EVERY electron that exists in the entire universe in indeed the SAME electron that travels fourth and back in time. Get you head around that one.

That all being said I believe that WE create reality - no one else. And advanced E.T.s have MUCH more profund effects on this creation process than we have currently. Their spiritual part / consciousness is much more evolved hence more effective. Maybe the god of the "bible" is really just a very powerful E.T. after all... but I still doubt it.

For me this all fits very well together... I suspect you might not convince me with YOUR theory


You asked me a question. I gave you an answer, but you just want to state your "crazy", unproven beliefs. If you want to learn something really important, study my websites -- listed in my profile.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:00 PM
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I'm sorry but I mostly disagree. And disclosure for me is not only and always about E.T.s. It's about letting the cat out of the bag about ANY suppressed topic... including free energy and anti-gravity e.g.

Look at your body. All the cells in your body work together. Because that way they can accomplish MUCH more than each cell alone. And our body works in pretty much perfect harmony.
Same principle is true for mankind. Simple replace "cell" with "human being" and scale the thing up. We all together can accomplish much more when we work together. But here is one of the major issues that have today that has to be addressed. We do NOT work together in perfect harmony. We fight our true nature.... we obey a small elite and accept our system to run on stupid things. So our next step to evolve is to work togehter in perfect harmony. We SEEM to be far away from that - but I think it's not at all that far if you only remove the current power stucture and what it depends on completely.
The next step is to work with other intelligences from "out there" (or whereever they come from) together to accomplish even more. May they be what they are... time travelers, E.T.s, whatever. The goal of existance is to lower entropy (look at the work of Thomas Campbell, www.mybigtoe.com...) and to improve and evolve creation. We are a vital part of that. I am absolutely sure that SOME of the E.T.s WANT to contact and help us. Not only as friends but as mentors. They are more evolveled than we are.
You could compare this to parents children. Parents will also help their children to evolve - at least for some time. I think some E.T.s could be seen in a similar role - when the time has come.

This topic is not that simple. We know too little about the vistitors to make any final conclusions. Therefore the first step is to let the cat out of the bag finally so that we know everything there is to be known until today and that some research may improve understanding them and their relation to us even better.

On the other side I might repeat that the "disclosure" of which I am talking is NOT just about alien beings. It's about total freedom, wealth and the end of suppression. This is some way can be compared to "Utopia" of the 60ies. It's very well possible to reach this now. The coming journey will be somewhat bumpy however!



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:04 PM
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These things are not "beliefs"... at least they are MUCH less beliefs than everything the bible states.
Study the work of Thomas Campbell (www.mybigtoe.com...) and current quantum physics.
I base my world view on latest research like this - not beliefs. But I connect the dots of course



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:10 PM
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Had a look on one of your sites. But when I read that you connect 9/11 to E.T.s I pretty much stopped reading.
The buildings were doped with thermite and brought down by a controlled demolition. Not by E.T.s.
I also saw your strange "language calculations"... Sorry guy. This is pure pseudo-science and sensationism. I'm more into real science

You make connections where there are none...
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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:19 PM
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Mr. Assange should take heed as 'he who gives up the smallest part of a secret has the rest no longer in his power'. [Ger., Wer den kleinsten Theil eines Geheimnisses hingibt, hat den andern nicht mehr in der Gewalt.]
Author: Jean Paul Richter

Likewise the threat of the big reveal explains the 'dark cabal' knee-jerk reaction for as the venerable Dr. Johnson said
'Where secrecy or mystery begins, vice or roguery is not far off'.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:22 PM
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I believe many things we will find out in the coming weeks will be incredible, shocking and somtimes frustrating.
We will be angry... but a big part of the problem were we... as you correctly said it: we give them their power!
This bitter pill should have been taken decades ago... but we were just stitting there and doing nothing.
I love what's happening now. I has begun...

The final changes will happen when the executive (I mean police, justice, military) does no longer support TPTB. Then they are The Powers That Were... And we can become free once and for all!!!
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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 03:49 PM
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It wasn't wiikipeeps so much as it was the tsa
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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:01 PM
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I don`t know if we could ever be totally free. We need to change how the ecconomics of our world function. There needs to be more balance. The wealth of our planet needs to be more evenly distributed throughout our populations. We need to put an end to the whole,``I deserve more than everyone else does`` type mentality. It`s destroying us. We are ready for the trueth, but with trueth comes change and change never comes easy. I think we are going to go through some dark times before we reach the promise land, so to say.



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:28 PM
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You spent five minutes on one of my site. Something turned you off. After my 25 years of work, you call my work "pure pseudo-science" . You are a once over artist. Hardly a scientist. Real invention/discovry takes lots of hours of hard work, many confusing wrong turns.
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There is no word "Sinsationism" -- that I know of.
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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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I agree with you that that will be a complicated process. But I also think that most of us really desire something like that to happen.

When the suppression of technologies is no longer working then free energy devices will be a revolution for our energy production. There will be no longer a need for any sort of energy grid. The energy grid in fact has more disadvantages than advantages: high costs, in the hand of few, affects many in case of a failure, dependency etc. Free energy however does not require a grid. Everyone will have its own energy production. The introduction of free energy will bring our system down anyways. The biggest economy is the energy economy with about 60 trillion dollars per year! Oil is a significant part of it. When free energy is introduced (currently it is supressed with brutal force) it will have masive effects on our economy (crash). I predict it to happen next year. Free energy is almost here and if you can believe the reports it's in use by some countries soon. You can find lots of infos on this topic here: peswiki.com...

So I'd rather say this system will not work anymore when we reach full freedom. And therefore we need something else. There are already some ideas like resource based economy:

www.thevenusproject.com...

I believe we must TOTALLY rethink our way of living soon.
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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:49 PM
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Didn't want to be rude - sorry if you see it so.
I don't want to dismiss your work but what you are doing doesn't help to understand our reality.
You had a look at our language. That may be interesting. But it hardly tells anything about
this universe. It tells something about us.

One question: Why is it the english language and the greek alphabet that you have used to do your "studies"?
Have you studied ancient languages? What's the outcome of your studies? How do they compare regarding their "hidden meaning"... show me some figures and comparisions please in order to understand the value of your work...

If you have only done your whole work based on modern english... then I think you have wasted your time


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It may be better to PM me as we should not debate that in this thread in order to stay on topic here.
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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:53 PM
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Only studied English. No acient languages. God controls every word of the English language. The same God that draws pictures on the Sun.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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Think I have no further questions then

Good luck with that, mate.



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