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Originally posted by TheWill
reply to post by Jobeycool
Can I ask you, assuming that you are in fact a Christian, whether you are of either a Catholic or an Orthodox church?
If not - and even to a considerably extent if you are catholic - then the teachings of your particular branch of christianity owe a great deal to the teachings of a german monk named Martin Luther. One of Martin Luther's major points was that you shouldn't be going around being good and kind - and not being bad - because it pleased God, but because it was THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
People regardless of faith are capable of doing the right thing, and knowing what the right thing is. Saying that you only do the right thing because otherwise you will go to hell makes you seem like an extremely shallow, empty and selfish person. Christianity, following the reformation brought about by Luther's 99 theses that he nailed to the church door (detailing only the most important things that he saw were wrong with the catholic church), is not supposed to be a form of Hedonism.
Point is, PEOPLE do good things, PEOPLE do bad things. People who excuse their bad deeds on christianity or evolution are BAD PEOPLE, as are people that need such a reason to do GOOD things.
Originally posted by jennybee35
reply to post by Kailassa
Most people, (all Jews, Catholics and many other sects,) who have faith in Yahweh also accept the fact of evolution
Are you saying that these other people with faith in Yahweh don't believe that He had anything to do with creation? Really? And when you conducted this poll of ALL Jews, Catholics and many other sects, they stated that God didn't have anything to do with creation. It was just a happy circumstance that the first spark of life appeared out of thin air and then we evolved to the species that we are now to create our own God? They don't really believe in a God, then. He is just a myth they cling until questioned and faced with all the FACTS of evolution?
Did you bother to read what I believe about creation and evolution? I don't think so. You just got thru stating that ALL Jews etc. believe in the FACT of evolution. What fact of evolution? Oh, you mean all those transitional fossils and skeletons that have been discovered showing how we branched out and became so many different species? Yeah, speaking of straw men and all.
Originally posted by andy1033
reply to post by InertiaZero
Do not forget man is neearly capable of making life now by themselves, but oh no something could not have made all of creation, lol.
Originally posted by redbarron626
Interesting videos OP. *sparkle*
I dont wish to argue but if you make creationism "illegal" or call it "insanity" then, by definition, any religion would also be deemed such as both require the element of "Faith" to sustain them. While creationism may be illogical, to confuse it with insanity is both foolish and dangerous. Every major religion has its creation stories which involves 3/4 of the population of the planet. To systematically call 3/4 of the planet insane would only alienate and strengthen the resolve of their position.
I can actually see a remnant of evolution in the creation story in the bible. God did say "Let the sea bring forth life" and "Let the earth bring forth life". To me that means the earth and sea produced that life, and we have no clue how long that took. There is no time line mentioned.
As for the age of the earth: we have no idea exactly how long it's been here. You cannot just choose to ignore archaeology and scientific facts on carbon dating and neanderthals, mummified remains and evidence of human occupation that is 40,000 years old. That would be idiocy. I do know that between Gen. 1:1 and Gen. 1:2 there seems to be a HUGE gap of time. That is where I believe the answer is.