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Originally posted by Y2KJMan
I am a Christian that actually believes in *GASP* the young earth creation theory. I guess I am insane guys, send me a white van with a straight jacket please... I now know the error of my ways.
Seriously though, you cannot disprove creation anymore than I can disprove the Big Bang. Why not just live and let live?
Originally posted by SaturnFX
So...whats left? What is there honestly left about "creationism" in any of its forms? There is nothing, yet 50% of America still believes in evolution.
This is about as sensible as believing Gandalf created everything..there is absolutely no merit..yet it is being pushed by politicians, some corporations, and being taught by parents homeschooling their children to perpetuate the absolutely known falsehood.
Originally posted by jennybee35
How condescending is it of you to associate someone with faith in Yahweh as insane?
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
NO!
It would mean billions of people of faith would be considered insane, just because they have faith that God created this planet and the life on it. I do not consider people without faith to be insane, they just have a different belief system, these would include atheists and evolutionists.
This attitude is a slippery slope of intolerance, and what it can lead to in many area's of society.
Would you like the majority that believe in a creator to say "Should 'evolutionist thinking' be considered a sign of insanity?" Then legislating laws to put all atheists and evolutionists into mental facilities.
No the idea EITHER WAY is totally absurd.
Originally posted by kingofmd
Animals changing over time (within their kind) due to natural selection/speciation or by mutation has never been argued EVER. (micro
However the Darwinian evolution belief that all living creatures are descendants of a common ancestor is total garbage. (macro)
Evolutionists like to play word games and provide evidence for the 1st to prove the 2nd. You have no transitional fossils of any sort, no mechanism, no example of how the 2nd law of thermodynamics can work backwards... Sounds like blind faith to me.
Originally posted by Y2KJMan
I am a Christian that actually believes in *GASP* the young earth creation theory. I guess I am insane guys, send me a white van with a straight jacket please... I now know the error of my ways.
Seriously though, you cannot disprove creation anymore than I can disprove the Big Bang. Why not just live and let live?
Originally posted by TheWill
reply to post by Jobeycool
Which is of course very, very different for the thousands upon thousands of people killed because they didn't accept Jesus as their personal saviour, or because they felt that their (identical) history book gave them just as much right to live in Jerusalem if they wanted to, or even just because they understood which plants had medicinal values and this gave them a little bit more power than the priests?
The Eugenecist movements of the early and mid twentieth century were definitely horrific, but they fade to nothing when compared with the atrocities commited for a deity. We cannot claim that evolution wants us to do bad things, so evolution does not want, but many, many people have killed many, many others because they believed that it was what God wanted.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by jennybee35
reply to post by SaturnFX
SPARKLE!
Your thoughts?
My thoughts are that I am sorry for you. I am sorry that you have no faith in anything larger than your narrow existence. I am sorry that it seems you are desperate to have someone, anyone prove you wrong in your beliefs. It seems that you badly want someone to come up with an argument that would prove to you that God exists so that you can finally have something to believe in. You keep asking people of faith to prove to you that He exists, and that is an endeavor doomed to failure.
I am sorry that you seem so lost and looking for an answer that you cannot receive in the way that you are asking. God really only wants one thing, and that is unconditional trust in Him without evidence or proof. That is the one thing that you will never receive, and I am sorry for that.
Those are my thoughts. You asked.edit on 12/5/10 by jennybee35 because: to add the ridiculous "sparkle" to prove I read the OP.
lol...nice job..but shush about the arklespay
Actually, I have a well founded and strong spiritual side to me..I certainly don't want a religion or singular deity in my life simply because that is a disruption to what my personal code of beliefs are..however I won't go into all that.
I see religion...religion..not a cosmic concept of God, but a structured taught religion to be an abomination to the planet. My beef...my huge epic beef is with -religion-, which in my very strong opinion, has absolutely nothing to do with something greater than myself, but rather completely cheapens a elegant divine connection between the individual and the universe into schoolyard lies, creation of powerful godlike men, division between thinking, forbidden sciences, etc...there is nothing good religion does for the intellectual progression of society.
It is a tool used by power hungry organizations to keep thinking minimal.keep the flock dumbed down so to speak.
So again...spirituality..I highly encourage. Definately seek a more profound understanding of your place in all of this...but religion? tie it to a stake and burn it from our civilization.
Most people, (all Jews, Catholics and many other sects,) who have faith in Yahweh also accept the fact of evolution