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Originally posted by Pigeon Religion
reply to post by metalholic
I to have had these same theories. Hitler was an asshole non the less, but he could have progressed us as people to a whole nother plateau. Was he wrong? No but he sure as went out about it wrong.
Originally posted by Regenstorm
reply to post by SPACEYstranger
Man, you're funny!
First, do you speak German?
Ever been in Germany?
Who gave you the information?
The Victor writes History, remember.
People don't like the unadorned real. We're always looking for patterns that make sense: easy-to-understand cause and effect. Even when we look at the clouds, we imagine we're seeing definite shapes (like faces or animals) rather than amorphous blobs. We can't help ourselves - our minds are wired that way. When we can't find obvious cause and effect, we're left baffled. Even distressed. But our anxiety is relatively easy to cure. We simply invent an appropriate cause and effect and impose it on the problematic situation. The more cause and effect we can cram in, the happier we are. We feel we are understanding the world. We resist the notion that the truth, in a form we can grasp, is not out there. There must be some comprehensible pattern of cause and effect that explains everything.
Enter conspiracy theories. Nothing's an accident. Nothing's a cock-up. There are no lone nutters with high-powered rifles. Mad people don't do mad things. Instead, everything is rationalised, put in a nice, tidy box and tied up in a lovely pink bow. The gift-wrapped parcel is presented to the world and everyone nods and smiles because now the world makes sense. Sanity restored. Everything does have a sensible cause.
Of course, there may be many inconvenient facts that don't support the various conspiracy theories. But isn't it those who are in on the conspiracy who manufacture those 'facts'? Six million died in the Holocaust. 'Who says?' the Holocaust deniers ask. 'Jews say,' is their answer. Why? To promote a Zionist agenda. And aren't the Jews secretly controlling the world? Weren't we told so in the secret protocols of the elders of Zion? Those were forged, of course. But by whom? Well, by the elders of Zion, naturally, to cunningly disguise the truth.
To tell the truth of the 'Jewish conspiracy' is, according to the Holocaust deniers, to be accused of believing in a 'proven' forgery, which was not forged at all, but deliberately distributed as a simulated forgery.
Nowadays, no one can ever discuss the 'Jewish conspiracy' for fear of being branded anti-Semitic, and credulously and perversely accepting forgeries…which was the whole point of the forgery in the first place. Except, as noted, it wasn't a forgery, but merely a simulation of a forgery. The genius behind this conspiracy!
Well, that's how some people see it, and there's nothing you can say or do to change their minds. And even to try is to demonstrate that you're part of the conspiracy.
Originally posted by metalholic
reply to post by SPACEYstranger
nazi germany was a formidable opponent the only reason we won the war was b/c they were fighting 2 fronts at once...
lol the bismark is all i gotta say...it was a fluke that it was ever sank.
they created the u-boat...they had the first tank. i mean come on someone told you some b/s and you ate it!
Originally posted by SPACEYstranger
If hitler was so far ahead of his time... then why is he dead?
Nazis did not embody progress. They werent even interested in advanced weapons research.
The Krummlauf (English: Curved barrel) a bent barrel attachment for the Sturmgewehr 44 developed by Germany in World War II. The curved barrel included a periscope sighting device for shooting around corners from a safe position.
Hitler's Weapons Uncovered
Hitler had some of the most technically advanced weapons of the time and still managed to fail, but what if he had succeeded? What weapons could he use to have overcome the world?
* One of Adolf Hitler’s most top secret bombs: The Fritz X – grandfather of the modern smart bomb. Prototype testing revealed that the success rate with this radio-guided bomb was over 80 times higher than with conventional free-falling bombs of the time.
* In every documented case the destructive power of the Fritz X proved so strong that it would completely rip through any battleship it hit. It would never explode while still inside the ship, but on exiting or in the water.
* The original Fritz warhead carried over 700 pounds of explosives.
* When the Berlin Wall came down Nazi files hidden for decades in the former East Germany were discovered. They revealed for the first time Adolf Hitler’s plan for a disastrous strike against the continental US. Hitler wanted to revolutionize long-range aviation with a project dubbed the “Amerikabomber.”
* The US version to Hitler’s “Amerikabomber”: The “Peacemaker” was conceived in 1941 for long-range flights from the US to Germany.
* The first Nazi super weapons were to be deployed against the French “Maginot Line.” The guns – named “Dora” and “Gustav” – were positioned on special railway carriers – weighing over 1,400 tons. It took over 2,000 men and specially built trains nearly six weeks to assemble, load, and move the heavy guns.
Yeah, Hitler was spiritual and held many strange beliefs. Much like Mackenzie King. Many people did in those days.
Originally posted by Lateralussicksicksick
Hitler's secret weapons according to NatGeo
Originally posted by Regenstorm
reply to post by SPACEYstranger
Man, you're funny!
First, do you speak German?
Originally posted by Regenstorm
Ever been in Germany?
Originally posted by Regenstorm
Who gave you the information?
Originally posted by Regenstorm
The Victor writes History, remember.
Originally posted by WalterRatlos
Originally posted by Regenstorm
reply to post by SPACEYstranger
Man, you're funny!
First, do you speak German?
I realize you are not talking to me, but yes, I do speak and write German very, very well.
Originally posted by Regenstorm
Ever been in Germany?
I grew up there!
Originally posted by Regenstorm
Who gave you the information?
It's commonly taught in German schools. I should know, I grew up there ...
Originally posted by Regenstorm
The Victor writes History, remember.
Yes, but within the international community of historians, the scientific method and especially the peer review process are still a prerequisite to be taken serious by your peers.