TSA gropes young boy's testicles while he is strip searched in front of everyone

Originally posted by zosimos
i am really curious as to what the actual reasoning the TSA had when they told this kids parents that
they needed to search him. absolutely ridiculous, didn't even bring the kid into a private booth or anything. they did it all right there

Because THEY wanted THE PARENTS wanted this to be public BECAUSE they wanted this filmed BECAUSE they want people to do exactly what they are doing now... WHY DIDNT THE PARENTS HAVE THE KID go through a scanner then? Don't give me that radiation crap... If you had to pick NAKED BODY SCANNER or being touched? The kid wouldn't even know what the body scanner is but he NOW knows from everyone telling him he is being "groped". If the parents didn't like the naked body scanners and didn't like the pat down THEY SHOULDN'T have put that child on a plane!!!!!!!!

reply to post by destination now

Part of the point that is being missed is this not about little children carring bombs, this is about TPTB showing Americans they are cattle to be pushed and proded and told what to do.
What this is really about is lost rights of Americans.

People just don't realise how far the wool has been pulled down over their eyes, it's time people wake up to the fact, that what ever 911 was or was not, it has been used to strip Americans of their rights.

It does not matter who did 911, the Socialist Nazi Government used it and now has your child by his testicles, now bend over cause your next.

I would like too know in how many of these pat-downs was their actually something found ?
that would have brought the safety of this flight or any other flight on which people are boarding into jeopardy?
And as a preventative measure u think that a prospective terrorist wishing to do harm too fellow passaengers that they somehow don't see these measures being taken before they board said flight?
"land of the free, and home of the brave" not from where i'm sitting.

Originally posted by Frogs

Originally posted by thecinic

Sounds like the attorney on the alex jones show the other day actually..... When a REAL bomber gets on a plane and it could of been prevented by a grope search or a body scan then you people will be crying why didnt the gobernment do their job why were more innocent people killed... The terrorist want you to let your guard down.... Make sure that your guard is down THATS when they strike when you least expect it.... They don't even have to do plane jobs anymore.... All they have to do is storm a big hotel and start euthanizing people..... Terror doesn't have to be a plane.... Trust me on this guys the terrorist *them idiots in a cave* ARE ALOT SMARTER THEN YOU THINK!! ...

That is why this policy is just silly. As you say, they are not dumb. Why pick a plane? Even before this airports had the tightest security of anything.

The people aren't at all happy about these kind of procedures for getting on a plane. Think they'd stand for them for a concert? A ball game? A trip to the mall? Grocery shopping? Before getting in their car and going on the free way at rush hour?

That as why this makes no sense.

BINGO!!!! Watch what happens when everyones focus is looking in one direction.

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy

Originally posted by tribaltrip
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HAHAHAH,
Did you not say, they inform you?

Yes I did say they inform you. And?

Originally posted by tribaltrip
Now you are derailing your exposition!!!

Um, no I am not.

It is very well known that there is a chance for "random" pat-downs. They tell you specifically that you have a chance of being selected and pat-down. So you must prepare for both scanners and pat-downs. They tell you all that.

So... your argument is still highly flawed, and my position hasn't changed.

Originally posted by tribaltrip
If im not mistaken, you said they let you know when you buy your ticket, what you will be going through.

Yes, they tell you you have choice. Scanner or pat-down. They then tell you about being randomly selected for pat-downs.

So what are you going on about exactly?

Originally posted by tribaltrip
Don't start calling people morons because you were proven wrong.

I didn't call anyone a moron, nor did I call someone a moron for proving me wrong because I have yet to be proven wrong.

Originally posted by tribaltrip
As someone mentioned, the american ancestors would be turning in their graves, im sure the natives would be too.

You don't know crap about what the ancestors think. So don't even pretend you do.

Originally posted by tribaltrip
And what about the UN universal rights?

I thought they were inalienable, meaning for no reason EVER shall they be removed?

No rights are removed! No rights are violated! You willingly chose to fly on an aircraft that requires you to go through security. Nobody forced you. You forced yourself.

Just because the librarian tells you to be quiet, doesn't mean she is violating your freedom of speech. You must agree to being quiet while in the library, or you get removed from the library.

Sorry GiftOfProphecy I proved you wrong on a number of points which you seem to keep ignoring. First off you said it does not violate anyone's rights. I provided proof that it in fact is in clear violation of our statutory rights as a consumer. I provided pretty conclusive proof of this. You also said they inform you before you buy your ticket. I proved you wrong here once again.

Now your argument seems to be everyone should just 'know' by watching the news, as though that constitutes a legally binding contract.

I also challenged you to provide proof of your counter argument to mine, which you did not. Your argument has been well and truly put to sleep.

As much as I love banging my head against a brick wall, I think I am done communicating with you, as you seem to be incapable of admitting when you are wrong. Which is one of the least admirable qualities on a few people on ATS.

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy

We don't want your reality. Your reality will eventually have us with cameras in our homes and cars, afraid to speak a word or touch our family members. No child, or grandchild of mine who has done NOTHING WRONG will every be subjected to a strip search in this United States while I have breath or fight left in me.

Did it even occur to you that if our government weren't in the habit of minding everyone's business but its own there would be no terrorists trying to kill Americans?

This ENRAGES ME!

Two folds to this!

1. They are tesing us to see how far they can push us to physical contact with "Authoritive Figures".

2. They are going to push people to not fly and crumble the economy further!

reply to post by dereks


im prolly really behind on this thread but i dont think he means free as in a free fare, like you don't have to pay.
but you have the freedom to choose where and how you travel with out anyone telling you you have to do it a certain way. i could be mistaken, feel like someone else prolly already cleared this up

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
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War zone??? There are no zones in war.

Major fail on your part.

I am done talking with people who don't live in reality. Enjoy your psychosis.

How the losing side resort to petty childish remarks...the term "War Zone" has long been in use to describe an area that is affected by war...but if that's your only defense...well, there's not much else I need to say!

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
You are the same people who ridicule the government for not protecting you, and when they increase security for protection you complain about it. You are a lost cause. Hopeless.

You people are in for a big reality check. You think you aren't sheeple because you oppose security, and want to fight the government.

You conspiracy theorists are going to be the first to get locked up because you are going to fight a make believe war that is all in your head. They make you want to revolt over stupid little things, and then lock you up when you do.

You are so dang predictable it is pathetic.

i'm not even going to bother inquiring wether or not you have children, i'm just pleased that you don't.

i would be curious to know HOW you feel more secure, knowing what trauma and humilitation has been inflicted upon that little boy. please none of your rhetoric, just an explanation how YOU feel more secure???

also i would like to point out that your signature mentions prophecy without love, how could you possess either love or compassion and try to justify what happened to that little boy.

Originally posted by ParkerCramer

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
You are the same people who ridicule the government for not protecting you, and when they increase security for protection you complain about it. You are a lost cause. Hopeless.

You people are in for a big reality check. You think you aren't sheeple because you oppose security, and want to fight the government.

You conspiracy theorists are going to be the first to get locked up because you are going to fight a make believe war that is all in your head. They make you want to revolt over stupid little things, and then lock you up when you do.

You are so dang predictable it is pathetic.

i'm not even going to bother inquiring wether or not you have children, i'm just pleased that you don't.

i would be curious to know HOW you feel more secure, knowing what trauma and humilitation has been inflicted upon that little boy. please none of your rhetoric, just an explanation how YOU feel more secure???

also i would like to point out that your signature mentions prophecy without love, how could you possess either love or compassion and try to justify what happened to that little boy.

Why would the PARENTS do this to their kid while this is going on???? Why not wait to see what happens and NOT subject your OWN KID TO IT.... THE PARENTS LET THIS HAPPEN!!!

What I find quite humorous is that I didn't' even need to post another reply to that GiftOFProphecy fella, because he made a complete fool of himself after I logged off to do the hoovering.

reply to post by googolplex


Yes, I agree with you, I think perhaps you misunderstood why I was discussing that, it was in response to the TSA apologist, phrophecy somethingorother

Sorry. I didnt bother read 16 pages. I saw the video, but I cant seem to make the title of this thread, and the video fit together. Whats the big deal. Can someone tell me?
Please

reply to post by thecinic
I wouldn't go throug that scanner, they thought the flourscope was cool about a hundred years ago till they found out they were getting fried.

Those scanner are more invasive and is said now by some Doctors will cause cancer in some people with time and exposure, so let them grop your testicles now or remove them later your screwed either way, shut up and bend over your Government has something they want to give you. And no you don't get a kiss first.

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the parents let this happen, you can say that with a straight face???

they were obvisouly taking the boy somewhere, maybe flying to grandma's for thanksgiving?? and by doing that, using a means of tranportation they are responsible for this????

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"You are so dang predictable it is pathetic."

NO......... whats so dang predictably pathetic is your next reply.

Originally posted by googolplex
reply to post by thecinic

 

I wouldn't go throug that scanner, they thought the flourscope was cool about a hundred years ago till they found out they were getting fried.

Those scanner are more invasive and is said now by some Doctors will cause cancer in some people with time and exposure, so let them grop your testicles now or remove them later your screwed either way, shut up and bend over your Government has something they want to give you. And no you don't get a kiss first.

These SICK PARENTS should not of SUBJECTED THEIR OWN CHILD to the body scan OR this pat down.. The anger is at the wrong people...

Originally posted by ParkerCramer
reply to post by thecinic

 

the parents let this happen, you can say that with a straight face???

they were obvisouly taking the boy somewhere, maybe flying to grandma's for thanksgiving?? and by doing that, using a means of transformation they are responsible for this????

DOES NOT MATTER where they were going thats all hearsay WHO KNOWS WHERE THEY WERE GOING.. WE do know the PARENTS had the CHOICE to have their CHILD go through a BODY SCANNER or HAVE A PAT DOWN... The parents knew one or the other would happen.... THE PARENTS should not of let THEIR child be subjected to this IF THEY REALLY CARED!!!

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so, your saying that the parents should pay the $10,000 fine for refusing to do both???

how do you know that the parents did not purchase these tickets 6 months ago, before the ghestapo changed it's tatics???