Hello Everyone, this is my first post but I have been reading the ATS forums for quite some time, around a year and a half. I have read all 9 pages
of posts on this topic (it will probably be more by the time I finish typing and submit my reply) and have digested alot of both sides of the
Firstly, I do not believe the boy in the video was groped (with any sexual intent), molested or otherwise but I also do not agree it was right. I
am not new to security, national security to be more precise. Quick back story on me; I am a first generation American Citizen, my father (born in
a Nazi workcamp) immigrated to the U.S. with his father (my grandfather an officer in the Polish Calvary) after WWII. I started working and paying
taxes since I was 15, and believe in hard work, doing the right thing (regardless of what others do, as I believe we are all responsible for our own
actions), but also admitting fault when wrong.
I joined the U.S. Army in Feb. 2001 and served 3 years Active Duty, and 1 full combat tour in Iraq (in 2003), I landed in Kuwait before the Iraq War
was even officially sacationed. I did/do not agree with the war and am a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War, but I still preformed my duties
and obligations without sacrificing my morals and princibles. I swore a lifelong oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States
against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear truth faith and allegiance to the same. I have been on guard duty at my duty station (in
Germany, Rose Barracks) many, many times; on a cillivian ocean vessel in route to deployment, and also in war zones. I have been told not to ask
questions to just follow orders when questioning (in my opinion very questionable orders), and regardless of my peers supported me I did not yield.
Sure it was hard (and at times I thought I might break) I was singled out, treated unfairly, threatened, faced numerous Article 15's. But I never
lost rank or was detained because I never violated any UCMJ article, I did my job to the best of my ability and have earned lots of medals for that
but I always got rank well after people who did far less and served far little time then myself. The rank did not bother me the physical punishment
I did receive I completed with a smile because it only made me stronger and gain respect with my fellow soldiers wheter they supported me or not.
On Guard Duty/Security Detail we had to search many people and most of us did so with great respect to the person we were searching (strip searches
were extremely rare as far as civilians were concerned, and only happen when there was a strong reasonable suspicion to do so). I can only speak for
myself but I did not take great pleasure in searching anyone but in some cases (war zones and hostal areas for example) it is a nesscessity in order
to know that an area is secure.
In the airport envirornment I do not believe pat downs and strip searchs are necessary at all, especially when a full body scanner is used, in my
opinion metal detectors are good enough but the full body scanners are just an added failsafe. Now if you see something supicious on the body
scanner or after a metal dection wand is indicating there is a questionable object on your pocession then and only then do I think a pat down and/or
strip search can be justified. Even with that beening said it should be preformed in a private area with at least one unbaised supervisor present.
Even if this was an adult in the boys position in the video I would still disagree with the search but once again let me reiterate he was not molested
in the sense some of you are trying to make it out to be. The problem with most TSA workers and not just them, police, military, government, and
many other workers is they are either afraid to speak up and just go along with the norm (even if they do not agree with it, [many reasons, some of us
of in their exact same situations and positions might do the same), geniunly see no problem with their behavior (for what ever reason), or have
aloughed themselves to be conditioned into believing it is the only way for us as a nation to be secure, they are lots of other reasons I can think of
and plenty I have yet to but I will leave stop with that).
Every single citizen of the United States is responsible for our nations security, or at least should have that mindset but that does not mean we all
need to sacrifice privacy, digity, and have to feel uneasy in the process. We need to start by policing ourselves and getting each others backs,
regardless of political beliefs, reglion, race, sex, age, status, social grouping. We may discover that not only can we be a strong and secure
nation, we can also be a tolerent and excepting one. Let's start living by the old saying "United we stand, divided we fall" not just wearing the
t-shirt or having the bumper sticker.
No one should have to live in fear and too much of the information the media and the government put out is designed to instill just that. Yes there
is violence in the world, yes some people are bad, yes there are posilbilities that terrorist (foreign and domestic) will seek out violence; we will
never be able to eliminate that but we can help minimize it by leading by example. I belief we are playing right into that negative hand when we
start looking at people and without even trying to hold any communication with them we assume the worse. I wish people would stop with the labeling
(democrat, republican, liberal, conservative, zionist, hippy, etc..), it never helps you in your argument and it just further seperates/divides you
from the person you are trying to debate with. Someone I respect once told me that as soon as you become hostile in a argument or a debate you have
lost any chance to convince the other party; that same person told me thier is only one rule he lived by and that was to be a decent human being.
Yes 9-11 was a trajedy but to go to war because of it was not exactly the best opinion, it would be different if we were being attacked no stop...
hmmm.. let me us a anology since I do not want to have that start of a thought misinterpereted; if you are punched in the face for no reason and that
coward just runs away, by U.S. law you can not chase them down and beat the ever living # out of them, but of they punch you and continue to fight you
can defend yourself within reason until they stop at that point so must you. I know it is not the same as murder but the war on terror is not a war
that you can win, no matter how many security measures you enact if someone really wants to commit and act of violence they will. The best we can do
is just be aware of our surroundings and get to know the people you fear with reason, like neighborhood watch but a national watch.
Sorry for such a long post and jumping all over the place hopefully I have more time to contribute to ATS. (I need to learn how to add line
breaks, among other things) I did not mean to offend anyone but we need to start looking at alot of issues as shades of grey not black and white.
Before we allow our own personal fears and lack of knowledge to spread like cancer we need to make informed disicions and start to look at sitiuations
from all views and angles. P.S. my intent was not to sound preachy or self rightgious as I know it my seem at points, I have plenty of my own
faults and by know means am perfect. Mods please let me know if there is anything that I have done improperly so I can make sure I do not make the
same mistakes in future posts. Thank you all for your time.
edit on 21-11-2010 by aberrant because: add space breaking up the post into
paragraphs to make it easier to read/skim thru and fixed a few typos/grammer mistakes
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there are anymore errors in this post they will have to live there, no more updates for me